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Slappin Fish 07-22-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kush (Post 16093657)
6 months in office and the biggest spending president of all time.... and the economy gets worse, significantly worse.

This is what your saying:

I have cancer, took years to develop, I stopped smoking 6 months ago spend loads of money, but my health is getting worse, significantly worse :Oh crap

Doctor said if I stopped it would be better... fucking empty promises....that man doesn't know WTF he is talking about :mad:

kush 07-22-2009 10:11 AM

If the stimulus money was actually stimulative, and it was actually getting out there, yes - we'd be seeing results. But he hasn't done that.

The money has by large been spent on pork. It's stimulated very little.
Had the stimulus been spent on actual stimulating the economy, it would have stimulated so much more.

You liberals champion Obama for the food pieces that he's brushed off the table; I call him a failure for leaving so much to rot on the table to begin with.

TheDoc 07-22-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kush (Post 16093726)
If the stimulus money was actually stimulative, and it was actually getting out there, yes - we'd be seeing results. But he hasn't done that.

The money has by large been spent on pork. It's stimulated very little.
Had the stimulus been spent on actual stimulating the economy, it would have stimulated so much more.

You liberals champion Obama for the food pieces that he's brushed off the table; I call him a failure for leaving so much to rot on the table to begin with.

Is a large part of the pork, like 98% of the money was spent on pork?

Do you know the actual %, clearly not... because it's not any part "by large."

NoComments 07-22-2009 10:22 AM

kush kush in the Bush....

IllTestYourGirls 07-22-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16093691)
Our Economy is worse, "significantly worse".... in what ways? Remember, worse.. after he became President and took office.. How about you just name 1 way?

You can't say unemployment, that failure started to happen well before Obama came around, it just happened to fall when he came in.

Credit card charge offs

Daddy Big Nuts 07-22-2009 10:32 AM

I'm gonna hold off until we're all paying 60% taxes. Shouldn't be long from now.

baddog 07-22-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16093602)
It's refreshing to have a President that is doing what he promised voters.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sextoyking 07-22-2009 10:34 AM

Serge,

Your point about iran v iraq is well taken...

Sure Iran wanted / wants to be a "player" in the world political scene but it's worst fear for decades was Iraq and Saddam....

Former Leaders, Former State Dept. officials from republican and democratic admins said not to go into Iraq - you will open up a can of worms visa v iran that will be tough to get a handle on..

Obama is doing just fine for his first 6 months in office - what more can we expect.

We had a complete and utter colapse under Bush.... At least we have a president now with some damm brains and sense :)

NoComments 07-22-2009 10:41 AM

Todd, the fact that the anti-obama crowd has nothing to say to oppose - says volumes.
They know bush fucked up, but party loyalty prevents them from yelling about it on every corner.

Slappin Fish 07-22-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16093826)
Credit card charge offs

I lol'ed, come on honestly...

Credit card charge offs are the ultimate lagging indicator.

First you lose your job, then spend your savings, then max out your cards.... it doesn't unravel overnight :1orglaugh

sextoyking 07-22-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 16093887)
Todd, the fact that the anti-obama crowd has nothing to say to oppose - says volumes.
They know bush fucked up, but party loyalty prevents them from yelling about it on every corner.

True, True....

While Clinton (who I will always love) was one of our smartest presidents ever - he had some personal flaws and I do bring them up when talking with fellow dems and others.

I could care less what people do in there personal life, i.e. sex, etc but I did have a problem and was embarrassed when clinton was doing it on our time in the white house..

sigh - we are all human and make mistakes....

marketsmart 07-22-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16093646)
12clicks is trollin you guys REALLY hard. Shame on you for falling for it.

Although he really does believe everything he is saying and will not have an intelligent discussion about it he will just insult you and point out he has been in the industry since 1842 and makes way more money than you do.

12clicks bla bla bla :1orglaugh

no no, he's just testing the waters for a run at office..

i think ron could be the next harvey milk...

i'm not sure though of he will be able to secure all the Young Gay Republican vote even if he is a member..

TheDoc 07-22-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16093826)
Credit card charge offs

What does that have to do anything? A charge off is when you don't pay your dept and the issuing bank clears the money from it's books so it's not an asset.

They still go after you to collect.. so it's nothing different than what has been happening way before any problems came around.

"Despite the gloomy economic forecast, credit card delinquencies fell slightly last month. Delinquencies are monthly payments more than 30 days late. Private-label cards also showed a significant decrease in chargeoffs from 7.1 percent in April to 6.9 percent in May."

kush 07-22-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16093942)
What does that have to do anything? A charge off is when you don't pay your dept and the issuing bank clears the money from it's books so it's not an asset.

They still go after you to collect.. so it's nothing different than what has been happening way before any problems came around.

"Despite the gloomy economic forecast, credit card delinquencies fell slightly last month. Delinquencies are monthly payments more than 30 days late. Private-label cards also showed a significant decrease in chargeoffs from 7.1 percent in April to 6.9 percent in May."


So now you're pulling your facts from a commercially-driven credit card website ( http://www.credit-land.com/news/news...790476_179.php )

And I bet you think they economy is better because the white house says that fewer people are searching on google for "economic depression" ?

Rinaldo 07-22-2009 11:07 AM

It all began when Louis XIV implemented the Court system. The Government Employees need the Government to keep spending to keep receiving their salaries. Cut spending they lose their jobs, it creates a cycle which they will not break themselves. Only we, the tax payers could legitimately stop them. However no one's that bright and thus we perpetuate the cycle.

TheDoc 07-22-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kush (Post 16093967)
So now you're pulling your facts from a commercially-driven credit card website ( http://www.credit-land.com/news/news...790476_179.php )

And I bet you think they economy is better because the white house says that fewer people are searching on google for "economic depression" ?

Does it make a difference where the info was pulled from? We could look at BoA and see the numbers are greatly better for them too.

I don't know what the White House is saying... but I would expect them to paint a good picture. Afterall, the eco isn't that bad.

kush 07-22-2009 11:13 AM

If Obama slowed down, went about doing everything the right way and was open to more people's ways of doing things, and compromised, some of his promises may start holding water.

But so far he's promised everything and the kitchen sink, and nothing's sticking. Same thing with health care... the "WE HAVE TO FIX IT NOW" mentality, and there is no consensus even among Dems on how to do it.

The more he speeds through his goals the more damage he is going to cause along the way.

Are you all serious not worried by the record debt we now have? RECORD DEBT. This crisis wasn't caused by Bush. It was caused by borrowing more than we could pay for. And that sort of behavior is getting more and more serious.

TheDoc 07-22-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kush (Post 16093990)
If Obama slowed down, went about doing everything the right way and was open to more people's ways of doing things, and compromised, some of his promises may start holding water.

But so far he's promised everything and the kitchen sink, and nothing's sticking. Same thing with health care... the "WE HAVE TO FIX IT NOW" mentality, and there is no consensus even among Dems on how to do it.

The more he speeds through his goals the more damage he is going to cause along the way.

Are you all serious not worried by the record debt we now have? RECORD DEBT. This crisis wasn't caused by Bush. It was caused by borrowing more than we could pay for. And that sort of behavior is getting more and more serious.

Not worried about the dept, it's not real.. I can make my company be 100 billion in debt too, it's really easy. Or I could do something like.. for every 1 hour of work I do for you, I will charge you my rate, but on your books you put double the rate. That way, I "appear" to be in debt to you, but I really paid you.

And why not get healthcare going? It took Canada like 15 years or something for them to Iron it out. I would "never" expect, even if the best person in the world was running, to get healthcare off the ground, perfectly or even half ass good.

Speeding it up.. gets the ball going quicker so the bugs can be dealt with quicker.

kush 07-22-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094009)
Not worried about the dept, it's not real.. I can make my company be 100 billion in debt too, it's really easy. Or I could do something like.. for every 1 hour of work I do for you, I will charge you my rate, but on your books you put double the rate. That way, I "appear" to be in debt to you, but I really paid you.

And why not get healthcare going? It took Canada like 15 years or something for them to Iron it out. I would "never" expect, even if the best person in the world was running, to get healthcare off the ground, perfectly or even half ass good.

Speeding it up.. gets the ball going quicker so the bugs can be dealt with quicker.

This talk and interest in health care is a great thing. Our system needs improvement. However pushing for votes before law makers read the material and have ample opportunity to debate and improve it is a bad idea (referring back to the stimulus).

As to debt, I don't understand what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're talking about manipulating numbers to make the final figure look more attractive. But no matter how many numbers you fudge, the US government is still going to owe all the trillions of dollars it is borrowing. Even Europe is afraid of our spending. We are destabilizing our currency. We are printing money. We are risking inflation in a time where wages and jobs are falling. Think BIG PICTURE. How do people not see this? How are more people not worried wanting to slow down and stop the spending that we don't know how to pay for?

12clicks 07-22-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094009)
Not worried about the dept, it's not real.. I can make my company be 100 billion in debt too, it's really easy. Or I could do something like.. for every 1 hour of work I do for you, I will charge you my rate, but on your books you put double the rate. That way, I "appear" to be in debt to you, but I really paid you.

And why not get healthcare going? It took Canada like 15 years or something for them to Iron it out. I would "never" expect, even if the best person in the world was running, to get healthcare off the ground, perfectly or even half ass good.

Speeding it up.. gets the ball going quicker so the bugs can be dealt with quicker.

Wow, just wow.
This is the financial education level of the typical Obama voter.
No clue but as long as he gets his free health care, who cares?

TheDoc 07-22-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16094136)
Wow, just wow.
This is the financial education level of the typical Obama voter.
No clue but as long as he gets his free health care, who cares?

Do you ever post anything, and never follow up with proof?


That's right, I don't care how it happens as long as free health care is started, asap!

MaDalton 07-22-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16093915)
no no, he's just testing the waters for a run at office..

i think ron could be the next harvey milk...

i'm not sure though of he will be able to secure all the Young Gay Republican vote even if he is a member..

since the average republican is around 68 years old it's probably ok to count him still as "young gay". or does that mean that he just recently came out of the closet?

IllTestYourGirls 07-22-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094234)
Do you ever post anything, and never follow up with proof?


That's right, I don't care how it happens as long as free health care is started, asap!

Please explain to me how you can have "free health care"? Are the doctors not going to charge anything anymore?

You seriously can not think health care will be FREE. Can you?

TheDoc 07-22-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16094621)
Please explain to me how you can have "free health care"? Are the doctors not going to charge anything anymore?

You seriously can not think health care will be FREE. Can you?

Oh wow, great post..

As an American that lived in Canada I know what "Free" Health care is. Now if you want to be a tard and twist the meaning then that's your own issue to deal with.

Makaveli 07-22-2009 01:37 PM

Obaaaaamaaaaa.. Sheeple wake up.

Obama is a CFR/Bilderburg/NWO puppet..

nation-x 07-22-2009 01:39 PM

I think PussyMan loves Obama's black cock
http://www.nation-x.com/pussyman_black_cock.jpg

IllTestYourGirls 07-22-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094635)
Oh wow, great post..

As an American that lived in Canada I know what "Free" Health care is. Now if you want to be a tard and twist the meaning then that's your own issue to deal with.

Well I was just making sure :winkwink:

How can we have a world empire and free health care? The USA is nothing like Canada. They do not have all the extra expenses we do. A world empire and free health care will be the fastest way to total collapse.

TheDoc 07-22-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16094651)
Well I was just making sure :winkwink:

How can we have a world empire and free health care? The USA is nothing like Canada. They do not have all the extra expenses we do. A world empire and free health care will be the fastest way to total collapse.

What we don't have and what Canada does have, is cheap health care all around, that doesn't force families to go bankrupt or people dieing in the streets, even poverty is taken care of. Their poor neighborhoods are our middle class working family neighborhoods. Crime is low because the people are taken care of, because not everyone can or will take care of themselves. And that something people need to deal with.

Canada regulates it they don't hand the money out, the people are, and the system makes a profit. And the people are happy about it.

I was happy with it.... I would gladly take what they had over ours, without question.

They started at a rocky bottom, and so will we.. that's how it works.

David! 07-22-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16094648)
I think PussyMan loves Obama's black cock
http://www.nation-x.com/pussyman_black_cock.jpg

I love you too

12clicks 07-22-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094234)
Do you ever post anything, and never follow up with proof?

proof:
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
no clue


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094234)
Not worried about the dept, it's not real..

proof:
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
No clue but as long as he gets his free health care, who cares?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094234)
That's right, I don't care how it happens as long as free health care is started, asap!

it was pretty obvious but if you want to play dumb, I'll play along with you.:thumbsup

brassmonkey 07-22-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16094648)
I think PussyMan loves Obama's black cock
http://www.nation-x.com/pussyman_black_cock.jpg

:helpme :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 07-22-2009 01:54 PM

this is fun if u listen obama he said it will not happen over night there is going to have to be more jobs created it will take years before it turns around all that voted bush fucked the whole country 2 damn terms... WTF

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 01:55 PM

there's HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

12clicks 07-22-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094682)
What we don't have and what Canada does have, is cheap health care all around, that doesn't force families to go bankrupt or people dieing in the streets, even poverty is taken care of. Their poor neighborhoods are our middle class working family neighborhoods. Crime is low because the people are taken care of, because not everyone can or will take care of themselves. And that something people need to deal with.

Canada regulates it they don't hand the money out, the people are, and the system makes a profit. And the people are happy about it.

I was happy with it.... I would gladly take what they had over ours, without question.

They started at a rocky bottom, and so will we.. that's how it works.

you're a liar.
families aren't forced to go bankrupt and no one is dying oin the streets. oh, and as far as taking care of poverty goes, the last time I was in montreal, I saw a street kid beg a passing motorist for their half un-eaten apple. the motorist gave it to her.
if thats taking care of poverty, I guess you're right.:1orglaugh

you're nothing more than one of society's leeches. since you intend to take from society, it will always be free to you.
If things were so great in canada, you'd see successful americans moving there:thumbsup

David! 07-22-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16094721)
this is fun if u listen obama he said it will not happen over night there is going to have to be more jobs created it will take years before it turns around all that voted bush fucked the whole country 2 damn terms... WTF

Engrish motherfucker
engrish !!!

12clicks 07-22-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16094621)
Please explain to me how you can have "free health care"? Are the doctors not going to charge anything anymore?

You seriously can not think health care will be FREE. Can you?

everything is free if you leave your hand out for it long enough. however, what you *get* for free is not what an American wants. Its the American way to strive to attain the best possible of all things. Its sad that we've bred such an illiterate underbelly that now sees success as something to sneer at and other people's hard earned money as something to try to take.

roly 07-22-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16093236)
Just wondering . . . how much time will have to go by before you acknowledge that he does not know WTF he is doing?

what and bush the intellectual did?

TheDoc 07-22-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16094726)
you're a liar.
families aren't forced to go bankrupt and no one is dying oin the streets. oh, and as far as taking care of poverty goes, the last time I was in montreal, I saw a street kid beg a passing motorist for their half un-eaten apple. the motorist gave it to her.
if thats taking care of poverty, I guess you're right.:1orglaugh

you're nothing more than one of society's leeches. since you intend to take from society, it will always be free to you.
If things were so great in canada, you'd see successful americans moving there:thumbsup

Liar? Well... I did live in Canada.. and families in America "ARE" forced to go bankrupt due to medical costs, you can lookup more examples than you can read through in a year. And people do die in our streets due to health care issues...

Is that the problem with you, you're living under a rock and don't see the real truth of what's happening in our Country?


Nobody can stop peoples choices... I agree.. but what is offered to them is not offered here. That's a fact and that changes the way society thinks and acts.

TheDoc 07-22-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16094735)
everything is free if you leave your hand out for it long enough. however, what you *get* for free is not what an American wants. Its the American way to strive to attain the best possible of all things. Its sad that we've bred such an illiterate underbelly that now sees success as something to sneer at and other people's hard earned money as something to try to take.

Hey ass hat... that guy that pumps your gas, he has no health care - but YOU need him. Same with the people that make your food, ship your food, and so on.

You "pretend" as if every Company in American "can afford" healthcare, thus everyone can get it.

People making hourly income, work for companies that can't pay for it and these people clearly can't pay for it, kids, and so on.

But you.. you think it's "possible" for people to do something about success.

Your ego.. way the fuck out of control.. and your understand of reality, isn't here at all.

12clicks 07-22-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16094809)
Hey ass hat... that guy that pumps your gas, he has no health care - but YOU need him. Same with the people that make your food, ship your food, and so on.

You "pretend" as if every Company in American "can afford" healthcare, thus everyone can get it.

People making hourly income, work for companies that can't pay for it and these people clearly can't pay for it, kids, and so on.

But you.. you think it's "possible" for people to do something about success.

Your ego.. way the fuck out of control.. and your understand of reality, isn't here at all.

please son, just because YOU don't have heathcare doesn't mean its a problem, it just means you chose not to have it.
come work for me, all my people have it. go work for another company who offers it.
no?
you're too good for that because you're the mighty "doc" on the internet? ok, well then buy it yourself.

what you should stop doing is begging someone else to buy it for you because you choose not to live up to your responsibilities. :thumbsup


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