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SleazyDream 07-22-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16095882)
That you will not obtain through a small claims court...no way...but dream on.

actually, here in canada you can lean it and then force the sale of the asset if the account is unpaid.

Phil 07-22-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16095894)
oh god - this is sooo easy - all i have to do is have my secretary represent me. cost is $500 to anywhere...

the cost to the tube is THOUSANDS for the lawyer.

and that's the point - cripeling them


i'm really smelling fear on you. you must have some tube assets... time to do some digging on you..

this will be fun

I own 8tube and another big one.. make sure you file charges in Collin county, not Dallas. Lets do it sleezy. You da man! Fly your secretary. is she hot?

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 16095883)
I never said the attorney had to be inside the court room. The judge really doesn't have to even see the attorney in order for the attorney todo his thing.

Reality is an attorney can prepare a case for the defence that the client can present himself in court, and anything an attorney can prepare as far as legalities is no match for the average Joe...

As far as the rest of your post i.e. mass lawsuits by differrent parties across the US, well that just might work.

webmasters arnt' average joe's

i've beaten MANY attorneys.

actually most arn't that bright in my opinion. some are, most arn't and are only concerned with billing.... thus my point - CRIPPLE them with legal fees.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 16095889)
Do you think we will ever see an end to the tubes? This is what has evolved in this business. Porn is Free now, no matter what. User uploaded is hard to track as we all know. You can ask the owner of the tubes to take it down and they may. But it will be back in due time. What can we do to fight it? Start a legal tube, give away 5 min clips, try to salvage what has been trashed. The courts don?t care about porn. It's all bad in their eyes. We need to evolve and protect our content as best we can. We can all cry and watch it be destroyed. Lets pull together as a community and do what we can to protect our content. I?m not sure how to do that. But there has to be a way right?


i see nothing wrong with tubes. it's the stealing of content i take issue with.

that's what this thread is really about.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095898)
Oh Sleezy, I didn?t fail, I just quit when I foud out whats waiting for me. I was shooting for Corporate Law, but then I saw what people like me do after graduation for next 10 years besides filling up coffee pots and running copy machine business.. Instead I took 80K expat job I SE Asia with oil company and left the law program. Thank god for that Business Information System undergrad degree I had.. Maybe if I went to Harward law it would have been different, but I just did it in Texas at SMU.

1/2 a year left and you dropped out? I don't think so.

keep telling yourself that though. :thumbsup

Phil 07-22-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16095906)
actually, here in canada you can lean it and then force the sale of the asset if the account is unpaid.

"oh here in Canada"... sue the shit of Brazzers then. They are Canadian who gives a fuck whats inn canada if you're asking about US?
Did you annexed the US in some war we don’t know about? Did you charge us on lake Huron with your fishing boat/Canadian Navy armada and we surrendered? I smell “mr stupid” here.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095926)
"oh here in Canada"... sue the shit of Brazzers then. They are Canadian who gives a fuck whats inn canada if you're asking about US?
Did you annexed the US in some war we don?t know about? Did you charge us on lake Huron with your fishing boat/Canadian Navy armada and we surrendered? I smell ?mr stupid? here.

i havn't had any of my content stolen to my knowledge, so I have nothing personal against braizzers.

someone steals from me, I sue. I'm just throwing ideas out for friends of mine who HAVE had content stolen.

tony286 07-22-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095851)
No you dont. You will have to RTAO to go after assests. Trust me.

http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-artic...-judgment.html

How to Get Your Money

If your debtor is unwilling to pay and you know they have the means, it's time to use your local sheriff. You have three options to collect: a bank levy, wage garnishment, or a real estate lien.

First, you must obtain proof from your small claims court that you have the right to collect. While the name of the court-issued document varies, it is typically called a writ of execution, writ of garnishment, or writ of attachment. Once you have your writ, give it to your local sheriff with instructions on your collection method. Your sheriff will serve papers on the appropriate institution and collect from your debtor.

Seizing money from your debtor's bank accounts is called a bank levy. For this, you need the name of the bank, the account number and the exact name on the account. If the cause of your suit was a business transaction, you may have this information on a credit application. Debtor laws exempt certain accounts from collection. Those include wages, retirement funds and public funds (social security, unemployment). The issue can get even more complicated if the account is joint or shared.

The next method to consider is a real estate lien. If the debtor has property, you can claim part of its value. You can create a lien by registering your judgment with the land records office in the county where the debtor owns real estate. A lien requires patience. You won't get any money until the property is sold or transferred since you will be paid from those proceeds. However, if the owner sells the property, you can collect the judgment, plus post-judgment costs and interests. It should be noted that some states limit the amount that can be collected on a real estate lien.

The third and easiest way to collect is wage garnishment. If the debtor has a job, you can collect up to 25% of his or her wages until the judgment is paid. Give your sheriff or other local official (known as a levying officer) information about the judgment and where the debtor works. This officer will collect the money and give it to you. There are restrictions, however. If the person can prove the money is being used for basic support, you can't garnish his or her wages. The same goes if they are already subject to another garnishment, are a federal or military employee or are on public support.

Phil 07-22-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16095925)
1/2 a year left and you dropped out? I don't think so.

keep telling yourself that though. :thumbsup

Its 4+ years for work-and-study students… Please tell me “Oh but in Canada…”… I do give 3 shits about how its in “Eh Canada”…

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:07 PM

CAMOKAT I think it's pretty clear to see why they threw you out of law school from your responses :2 cents:

theking 07-22-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16095906)
actually, here in canada you can lean it and then force the sale of the asset if the account is unpaid.

Well you cannot force a sale here and can only put a lean on property...then collect if and when the property is sold. The most you are going to get a judgement for here in the US via small claims...is for proven actual damages to you and occasionally (rarely) punitive damages.

Phil 07-22-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 16095938)
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-artic...-judgment.html

How to Get Your Money

If your debtor is unwilling to pay and you know they have the means, it's time to use your local sheriff. You have three options to collect: a bank levy, wage garnishment, or a real estate lien.

First, you must obtain proof from your small claims court that you have the right to collect. While the name of the court-issued document varies, it is typically called a writ of execution, writ of garnishment, or writ of attachment. Once you have your writ, give it to your local sheriff with instructions on your collection method. Your sheriff will serve papers on the appropriate institution and collect from your debtor.

Seizing money from your debtor's bank accounts is called a bank levy. For this, you need the name of the bank, the account number and the exact name on the account. If the cause of your suit was a business transaction, you may have this information on a credit application. Debtor laws exempt certain accounts from collection. Those include wages, retirement funds and public funds (social security, unemployment). The issue can get even more complicated if the account is joint or shared.

The next method to consider is a real estate lien. If the debtor has property, you can claim part of its value. You can create a lien by registering your judgment with the land records office in the county where the debtor owns real estate. A lien requires patience. You won't get any money until the property is sold or transferred since you will be paid from those proceeds. However, if the owner sells the property, you can collect the judgment, plus post-judgment costs and interests. It should be noted that some states limit the amount that can be collected on a real estate lien.

The third and easiest way to collect is wage garnishment. If the debtor has a job, you can collect up to 25% of his or her wages until the judgment is paid. Give your sheriff or other local official (known as a levying officer) information about the judgment and where the debtor works. This officer will collect the money and give it to you. There are restrictions, however. If the person can prove the money is being used for basic support, you can't garnish his or her wages. The same goes if they are already subject to another garnishment, are a federal or military employee or are on public support.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just like that eh? But in Canada we just club the seal... You do realize how many "ifs" there is and each one has its own legal issues?

Spunky 07-22-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095907)
I own 8tube and another big one.. make sure you file charges in Collin county, not Dallas. Lets do it sleezy. You da man! Fly your secretary. is she hot?

Where can I send the burning bag of dog shitski?

peeperpimp 07-22-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16095910)
webmasters arnt' average joe's

i've beaten MANY attorneys.

actually most arn't that bright in my opinion. some are, most arn't and are only concerned with billing.... thus my point - CRIPPLE them with legal fees.

Alot of us are not average Joe's you are correct, but some are. You can't possibly believe that every single webmaster out there has their light bulbs burning bright. I myself have come across quite a few who are not that bright, so Im sure you have to...

Eighter way there really isn't an arguement here between you and I. We're both correct.

As far as CRIPPLEing them, well yes I agree, that just might work. If done in mass lawsuits

Spunky 07-22-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095947)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just like that eh? But in Canada we just club the seal... You do realize how many "ifs" there is and each one has its own legal issues?

You have to club the seals and walrus before the Eskimos do

Phil 07-22-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16095944)
Well you cannot force a sale here and can only put a lean on property...then collect if and when the property is sold. The most you are going to get a judgement for here in the US via small claims...is for proven actual damages to you and occasionally (rarely) punitive damages.

Small claims rarely award punitive damages because of its limitations. They’ll just tell you to take it to upper courts. Small claims is like traffic ticket line. Each person gets 3 miutes, and bam the judgment. To appeal you have to double the amount of what you’re suing for.. Ohhh wait , but in fucking Canada we bring out per husky, hockey stick and 1972 picture of team Canada to prove we’re right…

Phil 07-22-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 16095948)
Where can I send the burning bag of dog shitski?

semd it to your moms house. Im there right now.

theking 07-22-2009 09:19 PM

Very...very often defendants do not appear for small claims court so they lose by default. Usually they do not appear because they do not have any intention of paying...and will leave it up to you to go to the expense...effort and cost of trying to collect.

Many small claims court only have a $5,000 dollar max...but some have a $10,000 dollar max...but that is not to say that some states may have a lesser amount or a greater amount.

WarChild 07-22-2009 09:19 PM

What you makes you think the DMCA does not apply in small claims court?

tony286 07-22-2009 09:20 PM

dont be worry camokat its not going to happen.

Phil 07-22-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16095941)
CAMOKAT I think it's pretty clear to see why they threw you out of law school from your responses :2 cents:

At least they took me in… What grade did you get kicked out of in oh Canada.. Keep me updated on you efforts.. I want to see how you secretary does in US courts. Don’t forget to tell he that best argument is the one that starts with “ Oh, But in Canada….” Good luck, chubby cheeks.

I was trying to help uou out, my delusional Canadian webmaster…

Phil 07-22-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 16095971)
dont be worry camokat its not going to happen.

I know its not. Its sleezy. Big mouth, big ass, big talk… Small penis …

Phil 07-22-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16095968)
Very...very often defendants do not appear for small claims court so they lose by default. Usually they do not appear because they do not have any intention of paying...and will leave it up to you to go to the expense...effort and cost of trying to collect.

Many small claims court only have a $5,000 dollar max...but some have a $10,000 dollar max...but that is not to say that some states may have a lesser amount or a greater amount.

You’re 100% right.. But hey, in Canadaaaaaaaaa….. We all should know wtf is going in Canaaaaaaadaaaaa…

Spunky 07-22-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095981)
big ass,Small penis ?

Sounds like you have experience in this subject:helpme

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16095975)
At least they took me in? What grade did you get kicked out of in oh Canada.. Keep me updated on you efforts.. I want to see how you secretary does in US courts. Don?t forget to tell he that best argument is the one that starts with ? Oh, But in Canada?.? Good luck, chubby cheeks.

I was trying to help uou out, my delusional Canadian webmaster?

I have several degrees.

all i see if someone saying - dont' doooo this... no no no - why, cause it doesn't require lawyers to sue someone, and for lawyers - that's BAD BAD BAD


actually most lawyers I know seem to be trained from day one in law school to avoid small claims.

fact is - small claims has the same collection rights as a supperiour court.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 16095969)
What you makes you think the DMCA does not apply in small claims court?

the point is - get 100 small webmasters to sue.

some judges will agree, some won't.

all depends on how it's presented.

it's a micro MASS approach - not macro one shot.

what is more effective at killing? One big cannon ball you can dodge or 100 .22 caliber bullets shot directly at you?

people get caught up in BIG GUY itus.... money's in the small accounts - lots of them - suing should be the same way

small claims - min legal fees - maximum HURT

theking 07-22-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16096006)
I have several degrees.

all i see if someone saying - dont' doooo this... no no no - why, cause it doesn't require lawyers to sue someone, and for lawyers - that's BAD BAD BAD


actually most lawyers I know seem to be trained from day one in law school to avoid small claims.

fact is - small claims has the same collection rights as a supperiour court.

What Universities did you attend...and what degrees do you have. I attented L.A. State and have around a hundred units more than is required to get a degree...but I never applied for one. I changed major's multiple times and never did find one that I really liked. I really was only attending university to kill time while I recuperated from war injuries and to think.

mlove 07-22-2009 09:41 PM

You people sound more irrational than the RIAA.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16096017)
What Universities did you attend...and what degrees do you have. I attented L.A. State and have around a hundred units more than is required to get a degree...but I never applied for one. I changed major's multiple times and never did find one that I really liked. I really was only attending university to kill time while I recuperated from war injuries and to think.


university of manitoba. i live here.

i have a BA and a cfp as well as several financial planning degrees from various associations.

theking 07-22-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16096012)
the point is - get 100 small webmasters to sue.

some judges will agree, some won't.

all depends on how it's presented.

it's a micro MASS approach - not macro one shot.

what is more effective at killing? One big cannon ball you can dodge or 100 .22 caliber bullets shot directly at you?

people get caught up in BIG GUY itus.... money's in the small accounts - lots of them - suing should be the same way

small claims - min legal fees - maximum HURT

I tend to doubt that you would find many...if any that would appear...which means you would win by default and have one hell of a time ever collecting a dime.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mlove (Post 16096018)
You people sound more irrational than the RIAA.

funny, i see the same thing is advertisers.

there's more money chasing the small guys cause there's soo many of them, but everyone gets big account itus....

shows stupidity

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16096028)
I tend to doubt that you would find many...if any that would appear...which means you would win by default and have one hell of a time ever collecting a dime.

tracing accounts wouldn't be that hard.... esp since we know who the affiliates are.

i'm more into leaning the url.......

Phil 07-22-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16096006)
I have several degrees.

all i see if someone saying - dont' doooo this... no no no - why, cause it doesn't require lawyers to sue someone, and for lawyers - that's BAD BAD BAD


actually most lawyers I know seem to be trained from day one in law school to avoid small claims.

fact is - small claims has the same collection rights as a supperiour court.

I'm sure you do. I got one in bullshitting as well from university of Pulitzer. Serge Oprano and I graduated from same class. He used to cheat off my papers.

I wasn’t trying to say NO to you, just pointing few things out. One, is that it will cost you a lot more than you think. Maybe in Canada it’s a walk.. But Im not in Canada.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16096034)
I'm sure you do. I got one in bullshitting as well from university of Pulitzer. Serge Oprano and I graduated from same class. He used to cheat off my papers.

I wasn?t trying to say NO to you, just pointing few things out. One, is that it will cost you a lot more than you think. Maybe in Canada it?s a walk.. But Im not in Canada.

so nothing you say is valid.

gotcha :thumbsup

Phil 07-22-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16096025)
university of manitoba. i live here.

i have a BA and a cfp as well as several financial planning degrees from various associations.

BA in basket weaving? BA means shit. My friend graduated with Pottery Design degree. Hes selling suites in Dillards now.

SleazyDream 07-22-2009 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16096039)
BA in basket weaving? BA means shit. My friend graduated with Pottery Design degree. Hes selling suites in Dillards now.

umm, that's probally all you have - if you have that much as you failed out of law school


and cfp..

theking 07-22-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16096032)
tracing accounts wouldn't be that hard.... esp since we know who the affiliates are.

i'm more into leaning the url.......

In the case of the URL if it is not considered to be by law...real property (it may or may not be...I don't know) you could not place a lean against it but assuming that you could...the lean can only be in the amount of the judgement and would not be collectable unless or until the sale of the property.

As I stated early your idea is a solution of sorts.

Phil 07-22-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16096043)
umm, that's probally all you have - if you have that much as you failed out of law school


and cfp..

Oh, my original degree was in Finance. It was all fun in my early years. Making dart board mutual funds, playing stock.. Then I get to my senior year and realize that my best shot is to sell life insurance to old gizzards like serge. One summer internship with Principal Financial and I switched my majors to BIS (business information systems). Best thing I ever done. Altho I do hate mainframe programig more than anything else in my life...

PS: I chose to fail... You never tried.. thats the difference. :1orglaugh

Phil 07-22-2009 09:56 PM

Im going to a swim.. good night sleezy..

Iron Fist 07-22-2009 09:56 PM

Serious business...


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