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Fiddy New Leafs Waiting to be Turned Over.
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Cheeseburgers for everybody!
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Was gonna say fifty group hugs. :1orglaugh
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Hopefully those people who think they are "players" now realize that nothing is forever. Things change constantly and either you listen to EVERYTHING people have to say or you fail, eventually. Business, politics, religion, relationships etc., its all the same. You should always listen to what others have to say, research for yourself and form your own opinion. If you don't you are just a fool.
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Working together to innovate and recreate... couldn't have put it better Steve
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Maybe AVN should step to the plate and make the same statement.
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working together?
b a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a how old are you dj the kid? 17, 18 tops? you will learn very quickly about that in this biz. |
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Great words from a great man! I heart Steve Lightspeed
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I'm THAT guy in the bathroom with the GOOD SHIT. |
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Contacting you on ICQ... I have something new that may interest you.
Nice post btw ;) |
A little anecdotal analogy:
Back in the late 70s my aunt & uncle got involved in the ceramic industry when it first began to gain popularity - starting out as a family hobby at first and then gradually expanded it to become one of the largest ceramic retailers in Toronto (at the time) - with a coast-to-coast catalogue operation and ceramic kiln sales as a sideline. They became the go-to people for folks jumping into the ceramic hobby. As they expanded, so did their personal spending. Nice cars, a lavish condominium in an upscale area in the suburbs, a big yacht, vacations in the Caribbean and exotic hotspots...etc, etc. On the surface they appeared to be the beacon of success and all the relatives were proud of their accomplishments. They'd taken a gamble, worked hard, invested all their savings...and it appeared to be paying off nicely. Unfortunately, they didn't seem willing to admit (or understand) that ceramics was a fad hobby - the pet rock or Rubik's Cube of its era. In an effort to maintain the illusion of success, their spending remained excessive and unchecked while public interest in doing ceramics waned dramatically. By the time the bubble finally burst in the mid 80s, they were in debt up to their eyeballs with financial commitments they couldn't handle. As you can imagine, one thing led to another and they shut their retail doors with little notice and temporarily vanished...leaving a lot of angry creditors on the hook for their debts. I see an aspect of that happening again today in the adult entertainment industry. Not to say that porn is a fad, of course...we all know different. But the business model is changing, the ground rules have grown fuzzy - and everyone's scrambling to figure out where we've all gone wrong. I'm dismayed when I see producer and webmaster colleagues who I've gotten to know and grown to respect over the years suddenly throw in the towel and halt operations. It's unsettling to see people who I thought were examples of innovative ideas and good business practices vanish with little more than a whimper. I wish I had more answers to the dilemma. |
Very well said!
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Hey Steve....
Your post was sincere and I truly understand your thoughts and I applaud your new commitment to the tasks at hand. With that said, however, I dont think you give yourself enough credit for what you built. I fondly recall a dinner that I had with 5 or 6 of the biggest "HAVES" in our industry (I think it was like January of 2002) and I said to them "You guys are sitting here on your high horses like you are invincible and the Steve Lightspeed's of the world are working their asses off and are going to take over what you have built" (yes, I used your name specifically). Each of them looked at me like I was crazy and just laughed at me....which was indirectly laughing at you....but you proved them wrong....you built a large program that took away their business. They went through the same thing that you are going through now (sinking sales, etc) but they did it in 2003 and 2004 and only a couple of those guys are even around anymore and none are as dominating. Those "HAVES" didnt give you anything....you busted your ass and you got what you worked for.....the problems with the "WANTS" now is that they do not have the same dedication and drive as you did back then. They came into the industry at a time where programs were giving them everything they needed to make money and holding their hands as they did. I think that is what stifled creativity more than any "big boys club". Of course, this is just one mans opinion. --T |
Excellent thread Steve!
The "Haves"and the "Wants", well written. I am humbled too. So I now will change my Players Ball to the "Wanters Ball" I'm definitely in the "Wants" crowd. |
Great Post Steve
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praise the lord!
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He made quite the impression. I believe the statement, "your biggest competitor is your biggest asset" was what made me pay close attention to that guy. |
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but that has never stopped me in my tracks. :pimp |
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Steve, were the stats you posted fake? You may as well be honest at this point.
They seemed to disappear from here pretty quickly. |
Reading that thread made me feel honored in knowing that I can call you a friend.
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Also, we don't have alot of big affiliates right now either. Most of our best affiliates (except a couple) have moved to selling prepaid ads now, so we can't really count them as "affiliates". If we did, the top 100 chart would look much different. As far as the new car... buying a new car after 9 years of the old one isn't exactly "balling". Its a nice car, and it has a matching nice payment schedule. But I spent more money on the Phoenix Forum this year that on the new car. Anyone else ready to admit their ego causes them to exaggerate here and there? Step up. As I said, I'm putting mine away now. |
in jerry mcquire this is your mission statement..lol
nice words though man...be good to get some organization and go after and out people actually hurting the business |
Some very valid points in this thread.
I like the initiative, Steve. |
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Kudos Steve! How many people are this open about where there life is?
My friends have pointed out that I didn't sell porn prior to 2003 and maybe in 2010 I should find something new. It is possible that by holding on to this business i am missing other markets that are not in decline. |
Hi Steve,
You definitely don't remember meeting me at the Toronto GFY Xmas party in Dec 2004 but I definitely remember meeting you. You've always been a role model for me in this business - since the beginning I've loved your sites and made great money with your pioneering program. I just wanted to say I support your post and its good to see humility on GFY for change. Although the "good times" may be over for now there are still profitable opportunities for selling sex on the internet - it just takes more work. Thats ok though, work never scared me. I am here for the long haul because... I have nowhere else to go. :thumbsup |
Steve, welcome back and stay strong, man. Ups and downs are what its all about. Things happen for a reason. It's just our job to find our meaning in every moment. I wish you the best!
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I met Steve and he struck me as a very warm and kind soul. It was very touching what you wrote but billing practices and tubes are killing this industry. The industry was on vhs and then dvd for years and made a mint thru a few recessions. Because no one was using porn as a lost leader for their other agendas.
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Steve, I've sent you a few emails and a PM on GFY but no response back. Hit me up when you have a chance. I'd like to talk shop and share expertise from either side. I know you were previously looking for a developer or two. If the emails got lost in the tubes let me know and I'll forward them :)
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i meet steve like 5 or 6 years ago .... was a great guy then, sounds like an even better guy now :) how've you been steve?
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I have admired Steve since i was 19 years old. That was 40 years ago :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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very nice post Steve! :thumbsup Baller or not you are still tops when I think of stand up guys in this biz at a time when we need more honest programs :2 cents::thumbsup
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awesome thread. It was refreshing to read your post Steve and many others who joined in with their kind words.
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each one teach one has always been my motto. No reason in being stingy with information in this biz
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If you wanna get somewhere in this business then you can only rely on yourself to make that happen, most online ventures last 2 years, 4 if you are good and tweak them. After that you better have the "next big thing" ready as you will loose probably about 1/3 of the revenues each year thereafter. (there's always the exception of the rule) A few examples could be: CJ's, TGPs, MGPs, Blogs, Tubes as far as traffic goes |
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giving away massive amounts of porn to generate traffic for an alternate product (dating, toys, etc) you know.... |
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Hey Steve. I know you aren't a fan of me and I'm not a fan of yours. That said I still have great respect for what you've accomplished in this industry. I've always thought you were a smart guy and this post confirmed those thoughts.
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Rock on, sir lightspeed! :D |
I just got a tingling feeling up my leg.
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Tube sites are easy targets indeed. Their traffic shot up so much in 2008 and 2009. TGPs are loosing traffic now to those guys.
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i don't get it - what are you aplogizing for? for not being one of the shitheads who have dragged this industry down? for not being a hypocrite like many in this thread? for not 'adapting' by being a scumbag whose moral compass changes in accordance with what's in their bank account?
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Becoming a millionaire is relatively easy, staying a millionaire is a lifelong battle.
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