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Hi Steve,
You definitely don't remember meeting me at the Toronto GFY Xmas party in Dec 2004 but I definitely remember meeting you. You've always been a role model for me in this business - since the beginning I've loved your sites and made great money with your pioneering program. I just wanted to say I support your post and its good to see humility on GFY for change. Although the "good times" may be over for now there are still profitable opportunities for selling sex on the internet - it just takes more work. Thats ok though, work never scared me. I am here for the long haul because... I have nowhere else to go. :thumbsup |
Steve, welcome back and stay strong, man. Ups and downs are what its all about. Things happen for a reason. It's just our job to find our meaning in every moment. I wish you the best!
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I met Steve and he struck me as a very warm and kind soul. It was very touching what you wrote but billing practices and tubes are killing this industry. The industry was on vhs and then dvd for years and made a mint thru a few recessions. Because no one was using porn as a lost leader for their other agendas.
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Steve, I've sent you a few emails and a PM on GFY but no response back. Hit me up when you have a chance. I'd like to talk shop and share expertise from either side. I know you were previously looking for a developer or two. If the emails got lost in the tubes let me know and I'll forward them :)
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i meet steve like 5 or 6 years ago .... was a great guy then, sounds like an even better guy now :) how've you been steve?
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I have admired Steve since i was 19 years old. That was 40 years ago :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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very nice post Steve! :thumbsup Baller or not you are still tops when I think of stand up guys in this biz at a time when we need more honest programs :2 cents::thumbsup
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awesome thread. It was refreshing to read your post Steve and many others who joined in with their kind words.
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each one teach one has always been my motto. No reason in being stingy with information in this biz
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If you wanna get somewhere in this business then you can only rely on yourself to make that happen, most online ventures last 2 years, 4 if you are good and tweak them. After that you better have the "next big thing" ready as you will loose probably about 1/3 of the revenues each year thereafter. (there's always the exception of the rule) A few examples could be: CJ's, TGPs, MGPs, Blogs, Tubes as far as traffic goes |
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giving away massive amounts of porn to generate traffic for an alternate product (dating, toys, etc) you know.... |
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Hey Steve. I know you aren't a fan of me and I'm not a fan of yours. That said I still have great respect for what you've accomplished in this industry. I've always thought you were a smart guy and this post confirmed those thoughts.
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Rock on, sir lightspeed! :D |
I just got a tingling feeling up my leg.
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Tube sites are easy targets indeed. Their traffic shot up so much in 2008 and 2009. TGPs are loosing traffic now to those guys.
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i don't get it - what are you aplogizing for? for not being one of the shitheads who have dragged this industry down? for not being a hypocrite like many in this thread? for not 'adapting' by being a scumbag whose moral compass changes in accordance with what's in their bank account?
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Becoming a millionaire is relatively easy, staying a millionaire is a lifelong battle.
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100 apologies
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Group hugs
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This may go down as the lamest threat ever on GFY!
Steve are you apologizing to use for no longer being a success? Did you think you were a player? You were exposed when you posted your pontiac convertible. ( It will be a classic one day since the company won't be around soon :thumbsup ) Do not worry Steve, you were not really a big player anyway. You confuse being popular on a message board of sociopaths with being a player. Real players are still making bank, still innovating, do not attend shows, or throw parties to stroke their egos. Steve, you are conning the good folks at GFY or you need to take your meds. Either way it will be fun to watch. :1orglaugh |
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Awesome post Steve.
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A lot of people have learned from our growth and our mistakes in life, but I doubt everybody will be feeling these 'warm fuzzies' and they won't think twice about smaller affiliates or new programs that are launched.
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I read your full first post then I skimmed through the rest, gonna save for tomorrow when I'm "sober" in sight. But as I see It you are right. I entered this biz in '99 :) Much has changed......but really not that much....
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Awesome post Steve, spot on. I returned my ego for a refund earlier this year, it seems to help.
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Great post Steve. Much respect for this post.
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Lotsa love Steve.
I know things have changed a lot for me and my business since my humble beginnings... things are tough for everyone and you're not alone. Here's to the next wave of innovation. |
I guess im one of the "wants":disgust
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This is the most meaningful post in GFY history. Thank you Steve, you are an awesome friend.
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Nice post, i know that you have accomplished a lot in our biz, good luck with your present and future endeavors.
I live day by day treating people the way i want to be teated, except if you are trying out to be a male performer. lol I answer tech questions to anyone who asks and i help people better there video and photo game. The fact that they may be my competition for the same content jobs never sways me from answering questions from a fellow shooter. I am always striving to be that better person everyday. Hopefully i treat people well enough from the get go so i never have to be in a position of feeling bad or posting an "im sorry" post. Thanx for sharing, takes a real man to say sorry.:2 cents: |
Snowflake visited this thread. Hi snowflake :)
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Still rembering making old school bank with you. ;-)
Money's made flat for stacking most in this industry cant accept that concept. |
Great post.
I see everything more as a changing of the guard. There will be plenty that survive, but there will also be new big players in town. Those that roll with the punches, never give up and keep their costs as low as possible will weather the storm. There are going to be plenty that wake up and see themselves on the outside looking in, but that is happening across the US and in many parts of the world in all types of industries and across all walks of life. The people I feel sorry for are the ones who tried to do everything right but still fell victim. I do not feel sorry for the ones that pissed their money away and took things for granted. Money is a drug and it is easy to abuse. These times are going to be a wake-up call for many. It can also be a great learning experience to those that are humble enough to recognize it as such. Karma will start biting a lot of people in the ass. It will also start paying off for some worthy folks. |
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