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J-Reel 07-24-2009 11:49 AM

Great post Steve. Nows the time for new beginnings.

fusionx 07-24-2009 12:11 PM

Heya Steve - can I have sex with your brain? In a purely platonic, heterosexual way, of course.. :)

the alchemist 07-24-2009 12:17 PM

Well said Steve, let's hope some people understand it's full meaning :thumbsup

Matyko 07-24-2009 12:21 PM

Kudos :pimp

Blazing 07-24-2009 12:34 PM

Hey Steve... very well said..... perhaps we can do more together in the near future. stay in touch my friend.

IPSKeith 07-24-2009 12:43 PM

great read and people in all aspects of business can learn from what you have to say!!!!!!

traumatics 07-24-2009 01:49 PM

High five ;-)

Matt Collins 07-24-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx (Post 16102297)
Heya Steve - can I have sex with your brain? In a purely platonic, heterosexual way, of course.. :)


Hey FusionX its great to hear from you again...man I gotta get back to Panama, we had such a great time there.

Maybe we can get back down there later in the fall.

Matt

alexchechs 07-24-2009 02:35 PM

Nice post steve... let's see who follows your lead...

Doctor Feelgood 07-24-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 16099169)
The adult industry is in trouble. We have all been affected by the global recession, new credit card rules, and the general lack of consumer confidence. Many of us look for someone to blame besides ourselves. After all, we WERE making money, and WE didn?t change anything, so it must be someone else?s fault, right? Tube sites and aggressive billing practices are obvious and easy targets, but I think we need to look again at ourselves.

In 1999, it felt like everyone and everything was new. Even though no one knew each other, and the best ways to earn money online were still undefined, we were all willing to meet and work together to figure it out. No one knew from where the next great idea was going to come. A handful of pioneers were leading the way, and the rest of us took notes when they spoke. The industry was young and hungry, and mostly HUMBLE.

But then the worst thing happened. We all started making lots of money. Along came lavish parties, and the ?Industry RockStars? were created. Immediately, the industry divided into two camps. The ?Haves? and the ?Wants?. The ?Haves? became less humble, and the ?Wants? were not welcome anymore. Parties and conventions became exclusive and invite-only. The ?Haves? power grew while the ?Wants? were left out. But the industry stopped growing because the people with new ideas were effectively shut out.

Along the way, the ?Haves? tried to work together, but clashing egos and poor business skills doomed many of their projects to failure. Eventually, petty bickering forced everyone apart, and the industry started sliding.

Now, the ?Haves? are finding with the poor economy, and lack of new ideas, their businesses are actually shrinking. But how can they go back? Many of the ?Wants? with innovative ideas are now resentful, and unwilling to share. And the RockStars of the past find it difficult to let go of their egos.

So I say the circle is broken, and the only way to fix it is for everyone to change. Let go of resentment and petty disagreements and start working together again. All of us. Most of all, we need to learn from our own history and avoid making the same mistakes.

I want to be the first to start. I want to apologize to everyone. Events in my life have reminded me where I came from. Some of you will laugh at me, or revel in my misfortune, but I?m going to learn from my mistakes and be humble again. I?m ready to let my ego go, stop acting like a RockStar, and return to taking notes when people speak. I'm ready to listen and learn, and party like it's 1999.

Steve Lightspeed

i thought you gave up and quit gfy last year?
broken promises http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=873644

LBBV 07-24-2009 02:54 PM

EXCELLENT post Steve

At the end of the day, there are a few things that have worked for businesses for years such as honesty, patience, hard work and a high value on relationship building (both customer and vendor).

Unfortunately, like any fledgling industry (and let's face it - in the grand scheme of things, this IS a fledgling industry) there are plenty of bad guys and wannabes. I've always respected your ethics Steve and always considered you not only one of the GOOD guys, but a good friend as well :thumbsup

-- Bill

lazycash 07-24-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16102834)
i thought you gave up and quit gfy last year?
broken promises http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=873644

He did, but I interpreted his post as an apology for that and saying he's ready to move forward now and work together with others concerned to solve some of the industry's issues.

tammix 07-24-2009 03:03 PM

1999... that year I sure remember, can't believe it's already 10 years!
Never tried your program but watched you from a parallel road mate
Wonder if I would have become rich if I'd have tried Lightspeed hehe
Guess I still feel like a rookie and still can't figure out many things in this business. but fortunately I have found many guides along the road
Hope to see an update of this post in 2019 mate! Now get outta the pits, this road has too many miles ahead yet

Hollywood Horwitz 07-24-2009 03:35 PM

Steve, your an amazing person and this was very well written. I hope to see you at Internext and buy you a drink! If you can't remember who I am, I'm the dude at the PB mansion with the long black hair and friends with Odie.

p.s. I'm emailing you a proposal with some business we can, I'm hoping maybe we can work something out.

fusionx 07-24-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Collins (Post 16102728)
Hey FusionX its great to hear from you again...man I gotta get back to Panama, we had such a great time there.

Maybe we can get back down there later in the fall.

Matt

Hell yeah! Lemme know a couple weeks early, if possible, and I'll snag you a good condo - so much better than hotels..

B O B 07-24-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx (Post 16103531)
Hell yeah! Lemme know a couple weeks early, if possible, and I'll snag you a good condo - so much better than hotels..

let me know too...

Im so inviting myself...

Ron2k1 07-24-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 16102060)
This industry has always been a brofest. Don't think it will ever change.

Well, actually the brofest is over now, even SleazyDream is posting again on GFY.

The industry has seriously changed since 2008

fusionx 07-24-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B O B (Post 16103540)
let me know too...

Im so inviting myself...

The more the.. no - that sounds too gay.

Come on down - we'll leave a light on for ya.

Ok - not much better :)

xxxjay 07-24-2009 07:20 PM

Great post Steve. I'm amazed this hasn't turned into a hate-fest yet.

SteveLightspeed 07-24-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasteland (Post 16101117)
Hi Steve,
First off, my utmost respect and appreciation for the candor and sincerity of your post. I'm probably one of the only guys still standing in the industry that started just a little bit before you did, and your sentiments are VERY honest. refreshing, and 100% on target.

As I read your post, I had 15 years of memories and faces come to mind to fill in the placeholders that your points covered. OMG! It was also like having my life in the industry flash fast-forward before my eyes!

Anyway, you and I are totally on the same page, and I honor you for stepping up to the plate and saying what has, for many many years, needed to be said about this industry and I hope that your personal openness can provide a good example to all for a "new attitude" (which, actually, is the same attitude we all started out with in 1995 through 1998).

Hope to see you in Florida. Lunch is on me (Denny's is right down the road, or if we want to live large, the 7-11 sells Cuban pulled pork sandwiches).

Keep up the "attitude of gratitude. It gets me through the days as well!
Fond Regards,
Colin Rowntree
Wasteland, Inc.

Thanks for posting this Colin. I specifically remember taking notes at one of your seminars back when I first started. Now when I speak at conventions, I always try to live up to the high standard you set back then. :thumbsup

digital-bliss 07-24-2009 08:37 PM

heya Steve

Iron Fist 07-24-2009 08:54 PM

Go figure and when I posted in your return thread, you ignored me completely... but I still admire your company and work in the industry nonetheless.

Irony.. i'm lovin it.

Agent 488 07-24-2009 08:58 PM

adapt or die.

SteveLightspeed 07-24-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16103778)
Go figure and when I posted in your return thread, you ignored me completely... but I still admire your company and work in the industry nonetheless.

Irony.. i'm lovin it.

Certainly not my intention to ignore anyone. I saw your "welcome back" in my 20 questions thread, but you didn't ask a question, so I just moved past it to answer the other questions as quickly as I could.

Let me make up for it now by saying thank you for the warm welcome, and let me know if I can be of any help with your Lightspeed promotions.

Steve Lightspeed

Iron Fist 07-24-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 16103796)
Certainly not my intention to ignore anyone. I saw your "welcome back" in my 20 questions thread, but you didn't ask a question, so I just moved past it to answer the other questions as quickly as I could.

Let me make up for it now by saying thank you for the warm welcome, and let me know if I can be of any help with your Lightspeed promotions.

Steve Lightspeed

Will do... been along time affiliate but never seriously pushed your sites... sorry about that... but i'll take another look in the next few weeks. :2 cents:

Mutt 07-24-2009 09:32 PM

you still haven't explained what the apology is for - the industry is filled with scum, you played fairly - so why are you apologizing?

Ava Knight 07-24-2009 09:32 PM

Hi Steve,

Do you have a timeline on your tube killer? And/Or give any hints about what it could be? :)

EthnicLover 07-24-2009 09:38 PM

I am all for people being more open, honest and humble in this industry. This potential change would help everyone in the industry.

I am just wondering if struggling or being in trouble means going from $500k a year to $200k or $1mil to $400k? I am frequently leery of adult webmasters/program owners who have been in this business for ten or more years saying that they are struggling. Is it really that bad?

Ava Knight 07-24-2009 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EthnicLover (Post 16103853)
I am all for people being more open, honest and humble in this industry. This potential change would help everyone in the industry.

I am just wondering if struggling or being in trouble means going from $500k a year to $200k or $1mil to $400k? I am frequently leery of adult webmasters/program owners who have been in this business for ten or more years saying that they are struggling. Is it really that bad?

Well, it depends on what your costs are. Your business always wants to be in the growing stage. When you are growing, you take on more liabilities - bigger office, bigger mortgage, more staff. It works because they're still making money to cover the costs and then some. When successful companies decline, they could be in trouble if they have too many liabilities. I believe that's the trouble AFF found themselves in. Very successful company, just up to their eyeballs in financial obligations.

So, it's relative... how much you expand vs. what you actually make

peedy 07-24-2009 11:14 PM

I've never met you Steve, have only read about your successes and occasional posts in the community. As a person who just launched their first affiliate program, I must say this post was very humble and inspiring.

Porko 07-25-2009 01:48 AM

Steve is #1.
your post was inspiring, thanks!
maybe you donīt know me but I bought my first (small) car promoting only tawnee stone, in 2001.
btw do you still working?

Elixir 07-25-2009 01:50 AM

huh loooooong thread !

quiet 07-25-2009 02:07 AM

serious gayness in the anus in this thread.

Mutt 07-25-2009 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porko (Post 16104390)
Steve is #1.
your post was inspiring, thanks!
maybe you donīt know me but I bought my first (small) car promoting only tawnee stone, in 2001.
btw do you still working?

steve is disgusted by you, do you think Steve who has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on model compensation and thousands of hours shooting and editing and processing content likes competing with a thief of underage teen content like you?

Tango 07-25-2009 02:40 AM

http://www.sweetteenasses.com/babelo...es/5348947.jpg

Paul Markham 07-25-2009 03:06 AM

IMO we lost it when we forgot who the customer was, what he wanted and how to keep him coming back to the Internet to buy his porn.

We blame everyone but the big problem is the customer chooses not to buy.

Porn has always been about supplying new content day in and day out that meets the customers needs. It was never about throwing up sites with 50-100 videos shot by the same person, often without the skills needed to get a good performance from a model and without the variation to make the site appealing. And we all followed the wrong experts, if they were so good would we be doing so badly?

Which was the route so many took. Eventually the customer decided to not buy and found Tube sites. Lots of content, new content every day and no rip offs.

Paul Markham 07-25-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBBV (Post 16102878)
EXCELLENT post Steve

At the end of the day, there are a few things that have worked for businesses for years such as honesty, patience, hard work and a high value on relationship building (both customer and vendor).

Well said.

Matt Collins 07-25-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B O B (Post 16103540)
let me know too...

Im so inviting myself...


I would love to go to Panama with you Bob! That would be a BLAST!!

Steve, sounds like we're getting the crew together for an awesome trip!!

Matt

HorseShit 07-25-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16104435)
thief of underage teen content

people are getting banned all the time on here for comments similar to yours.

Vexes 07-25-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16103838)
you still haven't explained what the apology is for - the industry is filled with scum, you played fairly - so why are you apologizing?

he has always been a needy attention whore

STAROTICA 07-25-2009 02:24 PM

Written very eloquently Steve....however the utopian pipe dream of it working out sounds like the script of a movie called "Jerry Maguire"......all but without the love interest (Dorothy Boyd). Everyone has a Rod Tidwell mentality about "Show me the Money"....So it was a VERY noble post Mr. Jerry Maguire but their are way too many Bob Sugar's out there now....and it wont EVER change even if you paid for it yourself and repackaged it with YOUR name on it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kRKai8rGj9...Soundtrack.jpg

SteveLightspeed 07-25-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STAROTICA (Post 16106243)
Written very eloquently Steve....however the utopian pipe dream of it working out sounds like the script of a movie called "Jerry Maguire"......all but without the love interest (Dorothy Boyd). Everyone has a Rod Tidwell mentality about "Show me the Money"....So it was a VERY noble post Mr. Jerry Maguire but their are way too many Bob Sugar's out there now....and it wont EVER change even if you paid for it yourself and repackaged it with YOUR name on it.

Sorry, I've never seen it.

SteveLightspeed 07-25-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 16104496)
IMO we lost it when we forgot who the customer was, what he wanted and how to keep him coming back to the Internet to buy his porn.

We blame everyone but the big problem is the customer chooses not to buy.

Porn has always been about supplying new content day in and day out that meets the customers needs. It was never about throwing up sites with 50-100 videos shot by the same person, often without the skills needed to get a good performance from a model and without the variation to make the site appealing. And we all followed the wrong experts, if they were so good would we be doing so badly?

Which was the route so many took. Eventually the customer decided to not buy and found Tube sites. Lots of content, new content every day and no rip offs.

Paul, can I have that 2 grand back that I loaned you?

SteveLightspeed 07-25-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16103838)
you still haven't explained what the apology is for - the industry is filled with scum, you played fairly - so why are you apologizing?

I think lazycash summed it up pretty well.

the content guy 07-25-2009 08:21 PM

Steve, like many others here I don't see what you are apologizing for, I don't think you ever snubbed out any newbies. Being in the biz on and off since '96 I have seen and dealt with a lot of the "players" of the industry and you always came across as a well grounded individual that never pissed off or on the little guys. You created your own niche and took it to a higher level. Fuck the haters. We have never done biz but the wife and I did enjoy sharing some laughs with you at the Palms Vegas sky bar last January. Godspeed Lightspeed.

Roy the Content Guy

TrashTalk 07-26-2009 03:29 AM

Nice post Steve! Nice to see 18 year old retarded surfmasters haven't taken over this board and business yet( <--- seeing some of the posting it looks like they are gaining ground tho). You must be so freaking broke to post something this emotional up here. It really shows me you have some balls and your brains in the right place. I bow to you :winkwink:

If you visit Amsterdam this year and want to talk business hit me up on ICQ.

Quote:

Real players are still making bank, still innovating, do not attend shows, or throw parties to stroke their egos.
I hear the guy does not like you but this one was good.. you have to give him that. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Matt Collins 07-26-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STAROTICA (Post 16106243)
Written very eloquently Steve....however the utopian pipe dream of it working out sounds like the script of a movie called "Jerry Maguire"......all but without the love interest (Dorothy Boyd). Everyone has a Rod Tidwell mentality about "Show me the Money"....So it was a VERY noble post Mr. Jerry Maguire but their are way too many Bob Sugar's out there now....and it wont EVER change even if you paid for it yourself and repackaged it with YOUR name on it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kRKai8rGj9...Soundtrack.jpg



I think the Jerry Maguire analogy is very appropriate in this industry and you make a good point.

We all want someone to "Show me the money!!" but there is certainly more to life and success than just that.

Matt

Dennis69 07-26-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 16099319)
and your famous quote "Our industry is the only industry that CONSTANTLY shoots itself in the foot!"


Truest words ever said... AMEN!!!!

San 07-26-2009 10:42 AM

welcome back

Shai West 07-26-2009 10:45 AM

Great post, Steve. It's nice to see a little intelligence back on this board.xxx


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