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it takes a lot of heart to post something like that, great post steve
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Excellent post Steve.
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Very nice, Steve you've never been a cocky asshole even tho 99.9% of successful people in your situation are, that earns a TON of plus points, I'm proud to say "Lightspeed, Steve, is a friend of mine"
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Truth be told, you are the main reason I left GFY in the first place. You don't want anyone to succeed. You seem to delight in misery. So I feel sorry for you. No, my new idea is not dead. It may actually benefit people like you, although that would not be by my choice. I've asked you before to stay out of my threads, and I'll stay out of yours. Please reconsider that proposition, and get out of my life forever. |
amazing that you posted this... you were one of the first people who I learned to look up to from my very first show and your hospitality and friendship is refreshing. xoxo
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Any person with a minimum amount of internet savvy knows many easy ways to get their porn for free, whether its off of tubes, or filesharing sites, or p2p networks. The knowledge of how to get free porn cements itself in the collective mindset of the world more and more every day. Reversing this trend is really a Herculean task and the person who said that it will only happen with laws being passed seems to be right. I don't know how else you change public conciousness; correcting the widespread opinion that they will never have to pay for porn. But if any positive change is to happen it starts with honest threads like this and people banding together and sharing ideas.
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do watermarking like the baseline testing we did and you can get 212% more type ins do branding bugs right and you can turn those type in into search engine quality hits do live intergration properly and conversions go back to levels they were befor the tube sites do private trackers properly and you can increase retention, and keep your content locked down for free. do product placement properly you could double or triple your production output. only 2 of those 5 are innovative (something everyone including mainstream is doing wrong) it possible to turn this "piracy" into the biggest money maker since the vcr rockstars like you just don't listen. Quote:
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No act of charity goes unresented No good deed goes unpunished That's my new creed My road of good intentions Led where such roads always lead No good deed goes unpunished! One question haunts and hurts Too much, too much to mention: Was I really seeking good Or just seeking attention? Is that all good deeds are When looked at with an ice-cold eye? If that's all good deeds are Maybe that's the reason why No good deed goes unpunished! |
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Steve, I see you more as Fiyero than Elphaba
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Steve I think one of your biggest enemies is your ego. You let a little thread that exposed your drop in affiliate generated revenue drag you back here and you've been posting ever since trying to reestablish some sort of I'm not sure what. I don't know man it's really painful watching you these past few weeks.
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Geez Shap that is mean. He said he was sorry and made a great thread. A majority of the people on here are not man enough to apologize for their behavior. If he wants to post on here that is his business. I think he is right that people in adult need to come together. It is so dumb that we all waste time trying to tear each other down. I do not see this thread as painful. I see it as honest and frankly there is not enough of that in the adult industry. :2 cents: |
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why is it so hard to understand that you created this "odd competition thing" |
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You, on the other hand, live to taunt me, and its getting pretty old. |
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seriously i am a nashian game theorist i am quick to forgive quick to retaliate basic game theory look back on every negative exchange we have ever had it only got nasty AFTER you started with your bullshit (stalker, theif, etc) if you listened instead of attacked you have less enemies, learn something and make a lot more money. |
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I do agree that the companies need to start working together again. Remember all the trades that use to happen, when companies looked out for each other and generated sales to their competition ... don't see that much anymore. If any company wants to do some biz together, TopBucks is always open to hear it and reciprocate. |
I think Steve is right. Instead of trying to make changes on the fly, and recreating the wheel, I think sometimes the best way to revamp something is to take a step back from it, re-access the situation and then jump back in with a new approach. Hope that works out for any and all who are willing.
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nice post. very well said. :)
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However, product placement in adult is a non-starter. Who is going to pay for product placement in an internet porn video? And this private tracker idea that you seem to be obsessed with is something that no one know or cares about. How exactly is using a private tracker for a torrent of any use to make someone money? Gideon seems to keep harping on that idea, but I really don't see the application of it. |
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branding bugs is not the same thing as a watermark, it is closer to an info bug and that is significantly different. if you can hire a girl to fuck on camera you can hire her to chat with the members after the scene airs for the first time. no one should have a problem adding a live component. However no one is doing it correctly even when they have a live component to the site. Quote:
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setting up a private tracker is fulfulling the fair use right people have to use torrents for free. Once that fair use right is provided for fully, other trackers can't hide behind that fair use right. if you can't see how getting rid of illegal copies can make you more money, there is nothing i can do for you. |
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Miranda Kerr is a hottie. I love her and Adriana Lima. She does kind of look like Jordan Capri. :thumbsup |
Gideongallery, could you name someone doing correct product placement in adult?
Cause the biggest of the big, with skilled marketers that have done this before, failed doing product placement in our Industry. People that have done it before, can not get it work in adult. Not saying some people don't make money doing it, but you might as well open up clip sites if you want to do that much work for little money. It's not worth the employee costs to find products that are willing to work in adult. And porn names/products in mainstream films is a fail too. |
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but that because everyone is trying to run the iron man before they even learn to walk. when you jump so far ahead of the cycle you are only going to get a fraction of the value. that being said some people are getting free goods for their videos. |
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And you think, you have the answer? I highly doubt it.. It doesn't work for one very very very simple factor. Porn isn't big enough, nobody is going to pay you what it's really worth, if they will give you the time of day. Now the question is... have you ever tested this? What films? |
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Great post, Steve. I don't post much and don't attend the trade shows, but I've watched your posts over the years and admire anyone who can stay in the business for the long haul.
Here's to future success... |
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The adult industry is apparently leaving millions (if not billions) of dollars on the table. You are not running your own sites and monetizing these ideas? I am confused. You know how to watermark videos 'correctly' and how to do product placement 'properly.' Everyone else is clueless so you have a huge lead on the rest of the industry. Tell the truth, are you just holding yourself back because you want to stay humble? |
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The product placement is that round black area under the pointing finger. Use it well and your revenues will go up with 20% |
You've always been someone I've looked up to in this industry... but your statement means shit to me now, but heh good show.
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the base line test (the ones we did before we developed the innovative branding bugs stuff) was simple doing watermarking and product placement like it was done historically done in mainstream . we used the q-ratio and tracked the viewer to response ratios, they are the same as mainstream. on a point by point bases adult product placement work the same as mainstream which is why i can say any one who claims that product placement doesn't work in porn just doesn't understand product placement. using only whitelabels and custom domains you can do product placement right. I know that was the test senerio we used. |
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You are talking about our traffic going out, to another source, right? Even though we are paid for it, our traffic.. branded to someone else, moving our traffic again away from us? Rather than bringing traffic into our Industry? It has a flaw for a reason... you may want to fire your marketing person. |
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He just happens to talk on a subject that gets peoples blood moving. And thanks, I have worked damn hard to achieve my success at my age and how I have changed, it's crazy. I can't wait to see what another 10, 20, or 50 years in business will be like. |
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And TV shows keep eye balls on the screen longer than the best porn every made. You can't guarantee someone will ever see a product placed in a porn flick, but you can put a % to the tv screen building up for the hype movement that you know everyone is watching. I can't see a cut for Coke just before the guy dumps his load, or even something in the background, like a boat that nobody notices? Quote:
But to take this direction, as a path to solve a problem is kind of crazy when I would bet most adult Companies have far more important things they could monetize or correct, that would make them more money in the long run. |
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