in my opinion,

Black women have the biggest most beautiful breasteses in the whole wide world.

-Josh

This is for those who think they know what the law is and make stuff up...

"Unless you confess to a crime,or threaten to commit a crime, there is nothing you can say to a cop that makes it legal for him to arrest you. You can tell him he is stupid, you can tell him he is ugly, you can call him racist, you can say anything you might feel like saying about his mother. He has taken an oath to listen to all of that and ignore it. That is the real teachable moment here ? cops are paid to be professionals, but even the best of them are human and can make stupid mistakes. "

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...ti cle?chn=us

Try it sometime and tell us how it works out.

End of thread.

Read the whole story. The police were leaving and Gates took it outside. The police are not going to let you create a disturbance outside. :2 cents:

I'm surprised the fucking commie didn't say "it's just words".

If they just walked away and that person or another person was hurt, then they would be responsible. Being pissed off is when people tend to do a lot of stupid things. Doing your job as a police officer is not being a tough guy. More citizens need to stop acting like assholes. :2 cents:

boy did you miss the point... I'm not arguing how a cop may or may not react... This was a response to those who claimed that the cop did nothing wrong.. that mouthing off to a cop is against the law or that the cop was right to arrest Gate for being "tumultuous" ....

The cop shouldn't have arrested Gate for being "tumultuous"

End of thread.

The writer of that article doesn't have a fucking clue and apparently neither do you.


From Massachusetts law.

A disorderly person is defined as one who:

* with purpose to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or
* recklessly creates a risk thereof
* engages in fighting or threatening, violent or tumultuous behavior, or
* creates a hazard or physically offensive condition by any act which serves no legitimate purpose.



From dictionary.com

tu⋅mul⋅tu⋅ous
  /tuˈmʌltʃuəs, tyu-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [too-muhl-choo-uhs, tyoo-] Show IPA
Use tumultuous in a Sentence
–adjective
1. full of tumult or riotousness; marked by disturbance and uproar: a tumultuous celebration.
2. raising a great clatter and commotion; disorderly or noisy: a tumultuous crowd of students.
3. highly agitated, as the mind or emotions; distraught; turbulent.


Go to ANY LEO and tell him his mother is a cunt and see if you're arrested.

And I repeat.

Try it sometime to the level that Gates took it and let us know how it works out.

Be sure to get Lawrence O'Donnell's phone # so that he can bail you out of jail.

Let's not forget that he was the one who compared Michael Vick's dogfighting to a fisherman catching fish...Yeah...that's right.

haha... yeah, if a person is being tumultuous and raising hell in front of say, a restaurant, he'll be arrested if he doesnt stop.... Funny how you try to prove that, Lawrence O'Donnell, Jr., amongst a few other qualified people I heard/read say the same thing, by pulling up the definition of a term that is very vague, without any context specified... and then interpretate it the way you want.. You are not a lawyer...

Caught that earlier today... from another clueless person I guess..

"If Crowley had gone to law school with Gates, he would have known not to arrest him too."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennif..._b_244859.html

and I repeat, you miss the point

http://i.newsvine.com/_vine/images/a...bfc7c2f03d.jpg
Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley, left, stands with Sgt. Leon Lashley, right, as police from various unions hold a news conference in Cambridge, Mass. Friday, July 24, 2009 to express support for Crowley in connection to the incident in which he arrested Harvard Prof. Lewis Gates at his home. Sgt. Lashley, who was with Crowley at the scene of the arrest, later said he supports "100 percent" how Crowley handled the situation.

Obama says: "My sense is you've got two good people in a circumstance in which neither of them were able to resolve the incident in a way that it should have been resolved."

The point you attempted to make was largely incorrect and that is being shown slowly, but surely.

This case is so simple, yet because Gates made it racial we have this overwhelming stink.

And Blacks in America expect to be treated equally.

Really now...

If an officer cannot reasonably question a citizen and then take said citizen into custody after they mouth off in a fashion that warrants them being taken in, only because that person is BLACK, then THAT is not equality in the least.

If we Blacks expected to be treated equally, then when we mess up we should be held to the same standard, WITHOUT being able to jade our side by crying racism.

How many officers will now put themselves in danger because they feel that they have to treat Blacks with "kid gloves" so that they are not accused of the same nonsense that Crowley is being accused of.

THAT is my point.

All that Gates is doing is creating resentment and stoking up racial tensions. And some of you are supporting it!

Gates needs to shut up and take his measly instance of being taken into custody as a lesson. His racial accusations belong in a cart of horseshit and he knows it.

He knew he could cuff him and take him in on a charge that would not get prosecuted and just piss the fuck off that old dude with a cane who was yelling at him.

Gates will regret this incident more than any in hies life. Everything he has done is being scrutinized, including him using this quote on his APPLICATION TO YALE

"As always, whitey now sits in judgment of me, preparing to cast my fate. It is your decision either to let me blow with the wind as a nonentity or to encourage the development of self. Allow me to prove myself."

He has held resentment towards whites for as long as he has been alive.

Yeah Gates is so militant he has a white wife,mixed children and supported Hilary in the election.

Wow, well said.

Foot in your mouth :1orglaugh

Massachusetts WAS my home state.
I worked in law for 11 years

I must insist again, you missed MY point and argue something I never talked about...

Gates was wrong to make it a race issue... Same thing would have happened if he was white...

You say "take said citizen into custody after they mouth off in a fashion that warrants them being taken in" ... Warrants? Did Gate broke a law? Why do you want to give cops power they don't have? Saw the ambulance video? You know that happens more often then you think? And you want to give up your right to protest to a cop?

Here's my point again, slowly, The cop shouldn't have arrested Gate for being "tumultuous" after he gave out his IDs..

oh my... aren't you the guy that argued hours with the sexy girl bot? nuff said

he's lucky he wasn't arrested when he refused to go outside or when he refused to show his ID... oh ya he gave a harvard ID first.

Can't we all just get along...? lol

Yes. He did. That is what you fail to comprehend.

That's nonsense.

If a person maintains an attitude of unruly conduct even after they identify themselves, then the officer STILL has reason to arrest.

Note that Officer Crowley is being supported by other officers who were at the scene...100%

Prominent Black professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. arrested for entering own home while Black?? :helpme

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/21...9072101803.jpg

Gates said: "This is what happens to black men in America."

sometimes shit just happens, coincidences cross tracks and outcome is inevitable and never as expected...
i dont think this is a big deal and i think Obama should have pledged the 5th when asked to comment in the situation during a "speech to the nation" related to the financial state of the union.
The reporter who asked him to comment must have "cum" a little when Obama took the bait...

cops can arrest you for anything.....that's the way the laws are written. Not sure about this case but it is total BS in general. They generally have big egos and want their asses kissed

funny the charges are dropped

The black scholar and the white police sergeant who arrested him agreed to disagree and promised to talk again, a gracious conclusion to the first round of an eye-opening dialogue on race that allows President Barack Obama to get back to selling his health care plan to skeptical Americans.

After accepting Obama's invitation to discuss the July 16 incident over a beer Thursday evening at the White House, both Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cambridge, Mass., police Sgt. Joseph Crowley thanked Obama for the cold ones served on a patio near the Rose Garden. Neither they nor the president offered apologies for their roles in the affair.

"I have always believed that what brings us together is stronger than what pulls us apart," Obama said after the highly anticipated, 40-minute conversation. "I am confident that has happened here tonight, and I am hopeful that all of us are able to draw this positive lesson from this episode."

It's interesting that Obama reacted more strongly to this mixup about why
Gates was breaking into his house than he did about everything going on in Iran.
He's all soft and cushy with the Iranian militants, all that let's all be friends shit, while
calling US cops "stupid" when they ask for ID from someone breaking into a house.
I thinkhe's got his priorities as president a little mixed up.