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Warren 07-25-2009 09:14 PM

If they locked up everyone that smokes weed in California, it would be a ghost town. they know this and have to do something about the laws sometime soon. fuck it's hard for me to think of anyone I know, who does not enjoy a toke or two.

chronic avenger 07-25-2009 09:19 PM

what they need to do is put a cap on meds!!! but I still would rather pay top dollar for that fyha!!!! tripple ogizzle, skywalker etc.. ya know that kill bill

xxxjay 07-26-2009 12:30 AM

A frank discussion on the legality of weed in America...
 
Here is my 2 cents on the topic...


sexandcash 07-26-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16106467)
I've always agreed with this. If you are considered old enough to vote and determine who will lead this country and you are old enough to smoke and go fight and possibly die for this country and you are old enough to be tried as an adult if you commit a crime then you should also be old enough to have a drink.

I always made that same argument too-you have the potential to be drafted, but you can't drink a brew? This is stupid....

kane 07-26-2009 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by STAROTICA (Post 16106978)
The bottom line is that if all of the controlled substances are taxed and decriminalized....the FDA would regulate the Potency, Purity and Dosage at a controlled level so that people wouldn?t OD.....you can only get TAXES out of dead people ONCE! So it would be manufactured by bristol myers squibb or pfizer and would be kept where the cigarettes are in the store that would collect the state and federal "FUN" excise taxes out of it......


But then where would all of those unemployed DEA agents go off to work at??the FUN division over at the IRS.

Whenever someone tells YOU that your not allowed to do something?..that is like I said not going to endanger anyone but yourself??.there is another extra added thrill of doing something taboo?..or maybe illegal??SHIT IT?S THE COPS!!!! FUCK!!!!

You see it on the first ?real? reality show????????.Fox?s COPS??.just how many people do the crazy shit they do??its fucking life??.but its all about making shit legal that weeds out the seedy and or shady elements of an industry.

for sure if you legalize all drugs it will get rid of most dealers almost immediately because, like you say, big companies will step in and make the drugs and they will be more controlled and "safer", if that is possible, because the meth you buy will be made in a lab, not in some guy's barn on a hotplate.

There will be little use for drug dealers because you can go to local store and buy it. Still, for me, meth is so freaking dangerous that I think legalizing it would be playing with fire. With weed the only person you can really hurt is yourself (unless you drive while high). It is cheap, you smoke some, eat a few twinkies and go to sleep. With meth you are up for four straight days and wired out of your skull and as soon as the immediate high wears off you want more.

I know a woman that was married, had two kids and a job and was a good person. Someone I thought was a trustworthy person and someone I thought was a good parent and wife. She went to a weekend get away with some friends. One of her friends brought a friend with her who had some weed. this woman had smoked some grass before so she was game. The trouble was it had some meth in it. Still she got high as hell and loved it. The next day she decided to try just straight meth. Her friend's friend did it and seemed fine so she figured there was no real harm in it. 6 months later she had lost 50lbs (and she was only about 130 to start with) and looked like a zombie. She lost a couple of teeth, lost her job, got divorced, but before the divorce she drained every cent out of their savings account and was ordered by the court to stay away from her ex and her kids. She ended up getting caught trying to pass bad checks and was convicted of a few counts of identity theft. She only did the full drug twice that weekend and said that every minute after that weekend she craved it and had to have more. It is ugly shit. Maybe if legalized it would be less addictive and less powerful, but it is just one of those things that you can't do socially. If you try it once or twice the odds are you will be hooked and it is downhill fast from there. To me meth can harm a lot more people than just the person using it. Forget that person's family. The meth head almost always ends up turning to crime to get money. If we stopped wasting time trying to get our hands on pot dealers and people selling coke or ecstasy and stuff like that they could focus on the meth and maybe get a handle on it.

I live in a part of the country that has a real meth problem. I have two friends that work construction and both of them often haul materials to job sites. Both get stopped 2-3 times a month by the cops who want to find out about the load they are carrying and make sure that it is legit. The reason they do this is because the tweakers will go to job sites and steal anything that is metal then sell it to the recycle plants to get dope money. It is an epidemic around her construction companies have to hire night security just to keep the tweakers out of their job sites.

Fletch XXX 07-26-2009 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren (Post 16107241)
If they locked up everyone that smokes weed in California, it would be a ghost town. they know this and have to do something about the laws sometime soon.

um, Cali doesn't lock people up who smoke weed, they decriminalized marijuana in 1976, the year I was born. They dd something about the laws, over 30 years ago ;)

Fletch XXX 07-26-2009 05:31 AM

Jay, my only question would be why you wait sooooo many years to get involved? We've been fighting marijuana laws for years, been an activist for a very long time, we've needed people like you on our side for awhile.

ive been encouraging pot heads to get off the couch and get out on the street since the first day I heard about medipot when I first hit cali and started pushing for decrim across entire country.

We need people to get out there and help fight in other states, stand up for your rights.

You can fool some of the people, some of the time, but you cant fool all the people all the time!

FiGHT@!!!!

I am a member of safe access now and encourage everyone to donate not only money but their time.

http://www.safeaccessnow.org

March with your brothers and sisters in the street and feel what it really means to be AMERICAN!

Hank_Heartland 07-26-2009 06:25 AM

I'm looking for franchisees for my medical marijuana business in the 13 states where it's legal. This franchise will be bigger and better than McDonald's:thumbsup

Cyber Fucker 07-26-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16106130)
i hope california makes weed legal and then the fed will finally cave in..

no reason why pot is still illegal and alcohol is legal..

exactly! :thumbsup

fatfoo 07-26-2009 09:26 AM

I suppose it's okay if it's for medicinal use. Laws are different everywhere, eh? Amsterdam it's legal.

xxxjay 07-26-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16108021)
Jay, my only question would be why you wait sooooo many years to get involved? We've been fighting marijuana laws for years, been an activist for a very long time, we've needed people like you on our side for awhile.

Good question. My opinion used to be that it would never happen in my lifetime and even if it did there would be no real benefit to society aside from not bogging down the criminal system so badly. Winds up there are more benefits, they are just financial now.

I can see pot becoming legal in the next few years.

Fletch XXX 07-26-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16108668)

I can see pot becoming legal in the next few years.

Just never forget those sick patients who stood in the face of cops and were carted off with serious disease for smoking pot.

Please watch this video in entirety, its basically what got me involved so many years ago.



cheryl and many have long since died, but we continue to fight in their name. This is not just about money to most of us.

the reason i say watch in full is so you see her arrest, most important part. Civil Disobedience at its finest hour.

kane 07-26-2009 12:57 PM

Another great side of this is that hemp would then be legal and it has a million really good uses. It could become a very big cash crop in this country.

stickyfingerz 07-26-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16107604)
Here is my 2 cents on the topic...


You and StevePP aka Mohawk Steve have some sort of stock in Male dimples? lol Never noticed yours too much till that vid hehe

dyna mo 07-26-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16107604)
Here is my 2 cents on the topic...


damb dude, clear that bong next time. looks like you stopped about 1/3 into a killer ripper.......

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