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Even the Java camgirls are making fun of me. Pay 5 grand for a white label in Java. No wonder they laugh every time they get a customer.

i'm gonna park right now... sigless spot

Sorry dude, I'm not trying to make fun of you. I just didn't have an opinion one way or the other at that time, and that gif makes me crack up.

But really, your math is all wrong, and what everyone else is saying is right. It's clear that you're really excited about your domain name and new product, but at this point all you are doing is guessing at the numbers and repeating them like they are a sure thing.

What you may want to do is let people know that you're looking to partner up with someone, and that you are open to ideas and discussions, and leave it at that for now.

And yes, the text-chat is Java, but the video format we use is Windows Media. We're dropping both in favour of Flash and hope to have it installed this week. Yes we're very late to the Flash party - my fault - the biggest mistake I ever made - but we're catching up fast.

Cheers!

nobody has given alternate numbers, and the IPO statement from Cams.com and simply multiplying the private session times by $4 a minute match up. not many people have said anything substantial so that's an easy way to be all right. Some idiot wrote he didn't want to send his traffic to webcams.com and having 300 models online 100 of which are charging $4 a minute is making a loss, so he's right is he? What other gems did I overlook?

how much did 350K put you out? you say a small house but I think you invested your life savings on that domain...

Am i right?

because he is a lot smarter then you are

:winkwink:

hey man... i wanna save you some trouble and possibly lead you to a direction that would make you money...

hit me up on icq... do not post on boards any longer... you will only hurt yourself

Exactly what I was thinking.. glad I only paid $7 for FlirtCamGirls.com :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh i fuckin love this thing

1. Put several cam sponsores on the page
2. White lable the domain
3. Lease the domain.

How's that going for you?
http://twitter.com/FlirtCamGirls
55 followers! Maybe you can get your $7 back. I know pygmie chess players with more followers.

The biggest camgirl site makes $350K before breakfast, 30 times Business.com
I don't think anybody here has seen a good domain before. Buy garbage and you can do what you want, but spend money on a category killer in a billion dollar industry and it's not any good.

lets talk...how can I reach you??

RE Kedra interview

$5K per day is she kidding? You'd have to be in group nude chat with 10 guys all day to do that.

You're basing all your numbers off of other websites that aren't yours and you're acting like it's a definite thing. It's not. It's not even close to definite.
I'm really not hating here, it IS a great domain name but you need to understand that so far.... that's all you got. A fantastic domain name. Build a site, or contact some of the other major webcam places and talk about it with them.

I have contacted 4 medium size webcam sites. They're happy making a few million profit a year on their own. I was asked where are the numbers coming from so I posted them, and the whole point of this thread is to have more than just the domain, enough traffic to reach 'critical mass' where there's enough camgirls to support the traffic and enough traffic to support the camgirls.

Get your site ready to go and the girls in place and have a product to promote, right now you have nothing. Why would somebody make a traffic deal with you based on profitability when you have nothing to show them other than a domain to build any sort of confidence with them that you're ever going to turn a profit.

You should be finding a partner right now that can help you get a custom cam script in place with the right hosting, design, programming and affiliate backend needed for launch. While doing that you can develop a relationship with a cam studio and work on securing some initial traffic.

Crikey I think you're right. people don't see profit projections but a flash looking site is easy to sell.

It's not the name that will make the site successful, it's the site that will make the name successful. Remember that!!!

Uh, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

I might be able to help you out with some things. Hit me up.

I have to correct this, camgirlslive is not a white label. It was cams.com flagship site for 6 years before Streamray bought cams.com All that traffic is merely residual affiliate traffic.

Well this post from another board back in March confirms what many of us suspected. You bought the domain on a shoestring budget with grandiose ideas and now you have no cash flow to develop it.

You already posted that.

Actually it would be closer to an average of 13 guys in paid chat for about 6 hours, but you can ask her about this yourself at our booth at the upcoming Qwebec Expo.

Anyway Cam_Girls, I have a couple of ideas for you.

First, we are coming out with our Flash version this week (fingers crossed!). When we have ironed out the kinks I would love to give you a demo. Your domain is EXCELLENT and what I would be willing to do is provide a license to you for free in exchange for only 8.5% of the revenue. This leaves you with lots left over, and it satisfies our needs quite well. What you will be respomsible for is the traffic and chat models only.

If you're not interested in this deal then what I would suggest is that you sign-up as an affilaite to a bunch of cam sites, and then let it run for a few months. Not only will you begin to recover your money right away, but you will also get a chance to build up your traffic AND show off its numbers to potential partners. And if you drive tons of sales to any one particular cam company, who knows? They may contact you and offer you something you really want.

"Projected" numbers is something that few potential partners or investors would be interested in. However actual numbers that can be verified, proven and maintained over time is another story completely.

Congratulations on your purchase. It's alot more than I would have spent on a domain name but I have no doubt that it can be worth millions in no time if managed in the right way. If you want to know what we have to offer please contact us at http://www.2much.net. If not I wish you the very best of luck.

Cheers!

The problem with white label is there's 3 people taking a cut, the camgirl, the white label provider and the domain owner. That's about 33% each. There's just no room for an affiliate program, so no white label sites offer that. And the increase in traffic is just your return visitors, you may as well get a lifetime commission at another site and send your visitors there, same result. If you can settle for 8.5% then you could do an affiliate program. Add that and some camgirls to get started then I'd be interested.

The problem is that there is no product offered on camgirls.com at the moment. All webmasters can go to webcams.com and send their traffic to webcams.com directly.

What advantage does a webmaster have if he will send his traffic through your site? I can´t see it.

So before you will get webmasters sending traffic to your site, you are more or less forced to establish a product. Maybe I´m wrong, but I don´t think 100 camgirls online are competitive today, you´ll need many more. So that route would be a tough one and needs a large investment if you will run a studio yourself. You won´t get girls sending from home without the right amount of traffic.

The only solution I see is running a white label site on that domain and develop your own traffic. If you are able to get this working, you might be able to establish an own program with own camgirls as a second step - medium dated or in the long range.

As long as there is no product on your site, of course you´ll have to share.

And the longer you are waiting the more your domain will get hurt.:2 cents:

Hi Cam_Girls,

In your first post, you were giving up 50% of your profits for only 20,000 clicks. This is what I meant when I suggested that you re-check your math.

If you notice, I said I would offer the software to you for free in exhcange for the 8.5% revenue share. We also give you the option to purchase a license outright and save on the revenue share if this is what you prefer.

I almost bought that domain at the phoenix forums...or shortly thereafter I should say. I was too busy to attend the auction but inquired about it afterwards. It was too pricey for my taste (I think I was quoted a price slightly above what was paid) but good luck with it bud :)

if you've still got the money we can go partners 50/50. that would buy a lot of promotion.
sales AT camgirls DOT com if interested

I hope this doesn't offend you...your concept for percentage splits sounds odd. Just sounds fishy or something. Feel free to shoot me an email at (steve at snrproductions.com) though and we can see about maybe working something out.

Say it takes a year to fire up CamGirls.com that's $1M worth of traffic for 50% share.
$200K worth of traffic for 10% profits would work out fine for me, I'm guessing that's enough to set the wheels in motion.

I'd be better off with cam software with an affiliate program, so white label is not suitable.

I can send you 30-60k uniques a day.
Hit me up, lets see how fast you can make me a millionair :)

I can send you 30-60k uniques a day.
Hit me up, lets see how fast you can make me a millionair :)

Well smartass it has only been on twitter for a month and the site is only used to recruitment models. I'm not the fool that paid $350k for a domain and doesn't know what to do with it. You may want to hit up your pygmie chess friends for clicks being they know so many people. :2 cents:

Funny thing about the number of cam sites.. There is always room for 1 more.. Just depends on what you do with it, and if you are able to think outside the box.

Why do you keep mentioning white label when replying to Mark's offer? He's offering you a full license to their script to run your site in exchange for a %, not a white label.

I tried to suggest this to you a couple months ago, but have you considered a full co brand with streamate backend? Its what many of the sponsors use for their cam program. Programs such as hotcams.com use it. You don't have to worry about the backend, just set your own design template and develop an affiliate program with your own payout structure. You wouldn't have to worry about camgirls, scripts, hosting or processing, just some design and marketing.

I just knew this would be an excellent thread before I clicked it.

:1orglaugh

that's nice...

always a good laugh

wow... this IS a great thread.

Love it :thumbsup

There is that "if" again :thumbsup

Best words of the thread :thumbsup


PS read again what Mark offers you :2 cents:

how many type-ins a day does camgirls.com get??? You should at least be making some good money on a whitelabel if it gets any traffic while you cam up your mind on what to do since you need some capitol now.

I am a little late to the posting party, but cam girls always delivers!

I wasn't sure if my point was getting across. Thank you, Lazycash! :)

Thank you!! :) :)

your offer seems good :) Only thing is he doesn't seem to have any money to do his side of it so I think it would be hopeless.