why? If CamGirls.com gets big you'll make a killing, pretty simple.
100 camgirls online is only 3% the size of LiveJasmin.

You talk like its easy as 1 2 3.

lots of people can send 20K clicks per day... the problem is alot of it is complete garbage and if your not careful and make a friend quickly... your gonna lose alot more then 350K

The only thing I see that I could send traffic to is your domain being forwarded to a webcams.com affiliate link. Why would I make pennies from you when I can send my cam traffic to my own webcams.com cobrand? You're gonna need to get up a site first before anyone is gonna want to make a traffic deal with you. From many of your posts it appears you are basing many of your numbers off of the AFF/Cams IPO financials. Those were revenue numbers, not profit, they are heavily in debt.

Since it appears you have limited resources now to develop the domain, did you buy camgirls.com on a payment plan? Seems incredibly short sighted that you would pay that much for a domain in one lump sum and not have thoroughly researched how much capital it was going to take to develop it to the extent you are talking.

clicks on a banner should be targetted, unless it chinese or something but I could test how it converts first.

Both these paragraphs are just thick in the head. You post more about camgirls.com than I do, you ramble on and on and on and on with the most most obvious tidbits of BS it's just worthless. You are the most boring person I've ever met.

your offering alot of a "potential" earning because it seems like you don't know the ropes. I'm just saying be careful...

There's other cam companies out there that may wanna strike a deal... much better going with a reputable company and work something out then offer 50% of a company for 20 years for 20k clicks a day.

or... take a step back, start from the basics. Hire a company to start a few sites up for you to develop your own traffic... pay a consulting fee, keep 100% of future profits

Funny how you can't answer any of my questions. After all the advice that you've failed to heed in multiple threads, it appears you're the one that is thick in the head.

So stick with VS Media.

here we go ..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Even the Java camgirls are making fun of me. Pay 5 grand for a white label in Java. No wonder they laugh every time they get a customer.

i'm gonna park right now... sigless spot

Sorry dude, I'm not trying to make fun of you. I just didn't have an opinion one way or the other at that time, and that gif makes me crack up.

But really, your math is all wrong, and what everyone else is saying is right. It's clear that you're really excited about your domain name and new product, but at this point all you are doing is guessing at the numbers and repeating them like they are a sure thing.

What you may want to do is let people know that you're looking to partner up with someone, and that you are open to ideas and discussions, and leave it at that for now.

And yes, the text-chat is Java, but the video format we use is Windows Media. We're dropping both in favour of Flash and hope to have it installed this week. Yes we're very late to the Flash party - my fault - the biggest mistake I ever made - but we're catching up fast.

Cheers!

nobody has given alternate numbers, and the IPO statement from Cams.com and simply multiplying the private session times by $4 a minute match up. not many people have said anything substantial so that's an easy way to be all right. Some idiot wrote he didn't want to send his traffic to webcams.com and having 300 models online 100 of which are charging $4 a minute is making a loss, so he's right is he? What other gems did I overlook?

how much did 350K put you out? you say a small house but I think you invested your life savings on that domain...

Am i right?

because he is a lot smarter then you are

:winkwink:

hey man... i wanna save you some trouble and possibly lead you to a direction that would make you money...

hit me up on icq... do not post on boards any longer... you will only hurt yourself

Exactly what I was thinking.. glad I only paid $7 for FlirtCamGirls.com :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh i fuckin love this thing

1. Put several cam sponsores on the page
2. White lable the domain
3. Lease the domain.

How's that going for you?
http://twitter.com/FlirtCamGirls
55 followers! Maybe you can get your $7 back. I know pygmie chess players with more followers.

The biggest camgirl site makes $350K before breakfast, 30 times Business.com
I don't think anybody here has seen a good domain before. Buy garbage and you can do what you want, but spend money on a category killer in a billion dollar industry and it's not any good.

lets talk...how can I reach you??

RE Kedra interview

$5K per day is she kidding? You'd have to be in group nude chat with 10 guys all day to do that.

You're basing all your numbers off of other websites that aren't yours and you're acting like it's a definite thing. It's not. It's not even close to definite.
I'm really not hating here, it IS a great domain name but you need to understand that so far.... that's all you got. A fantastic domain name. Build a site, or contact some of the other major webcam places and talk about it with them.

I have contacted 4 medium size webcam sites. They're happy making a few million profit a year on their own. I was asked where are the numbers coming from so I posted them, and the whole point of this thread is to have more than just the domain, enough traffic to reach 'critical mass' where there's enough camgirls to support the traffic and enough traffic to support the camgirls.

Get your site ready to go and the girls in place and have a product to promote, right now you have nothing. Why would somebody make a traffic deal with you based on profitability when you have nothing to show them other than a domain to build any sort of confidence with them that you're ever going to turn a profit.

You should be finding a partner right now that can help you get a custom cam script in place with the right hosting, design, programming and affiliate backend needed for launch. While doing that you can develop a relationship with a cam studio and work on securing some initial traffic.

Crikey I think you're right. people don't see profit projections but a flash looking site is easy to sell.

It's not the name that will make the site successful, it's the site that will make the name successful. Remember that!!!

Uh, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

I might be able to help you out with some things. Hit me up.

I have to correct this, camgirlslive is not a white label. It was cams.com flagship site for 6 years before Streamray bought cams.com All that traffic is merely residual affiliate traffic.

Well this post from another board back in March confirms what many of us suspected. You bought the domain on a shoestring budget with grandiose ideas and now you have no cash flow to develop it.

You already posted that.

Actually it would be closer to an average of 13 guys in paid chat for about 6 hours, but you can ask her about this yourself at our booth at the upcoming Qwebec Expo.

Anyway Cam_Girls, I have a couple of ideas for you.

First, we are coming out with our Flash version this week (fingers crossed!). When we have ironed out the kinks I would love to give you a demo. Your domain is EXCELLENT and what I would be willing to do is provide a license to you for free in exchange for only 8.5% of the revenue. This leaves you with lots left over, and it satisfies our needs quite well. What you will be respomsible for is the traffic and chat models only.

If you're not interested in this deal then what I would suggest is that you sign-up as an affilaite to a bunch of cam sites, and then let it run for a few months. Not only will you begin to recover your money right away, but you will also get a chance to build up your traffic AND show off its numbers to potential partners. And if you drive tons of sales to any one particular cam company, who knows? They may contact you and offer you something you really want.

"Projected" numbers is something that few potential partners or investors would be interested in. However actual numbers that can be verified, proven and maintained over time is another story completely.

Congratulations on your purchase. It's alot more than I would have spent on a domain name but I have no doubt that it can be worth millions in no time if managed in the right way. If you want to know what we have to offer please contact us at http://www.2much.net. If not I wish you the very best of luck.

Cheers!

The problem with white label is there's 3 people taking a cut, the camgirl, the white label provider and the domain owner. That's about 33% each. There's just no room for an affiliate program, so no white label sites offer that. And the increase in traffic is just your return visitors, you may as well get a lifetime commission at another site and send your visitors there, same result. If you can settle for 8.5% then you could do an affiliate program. Add that and some camgirls to get started then I'd be interested.

The problem is that there is no product offered on camgirls.com at the moment. All webmasters can go to webcams.com and send their traffic to webcams.com directly.

What advantage does a webmaster have if he will send his traffic through your site? I can´t see it.

So before you will get webmasters sending traffic to your site, you are more or less forced to establish a product. Maybe I´m wrong, but I don´t think 100 camgirls online are competitive today, you´ll need many more. So that route would be a tough one and needs a large investment if you will run a studio yourself. You won´t get girls sending from home without the right amount of traffic.

The only solution I see is running a white label site on that domain and develop your own traffic. If you are able to get this working, you might be able to establish an own program with own camgirls as a second step - medium dated or in the long range.

As long as there is no product on your site, of course you´ll have to share.

And the longer you are waiting the more your domain will get hurt.:2 cents:

Hi Cam_Girls,

In your first post, you were giving up 50% of your profits for only 20,000 clicks. This is what I meant when I suggested that you re-check your math.

If you notice, I said I would offer the software to you for free in exhcange for the 8.5% revenue share. We also give you the option to purchase a license outright and save on the revenue share if this is what you prefer.