i would say talk to mark from 2much, but i guess you already are :)

i'd be falling over myself to get to mark right now. that deal (potentially) gets you in the game

thanks for the infos

dear Cam Girls...

I think Mark makes you a very nice offer....

You can have your site up and running in FEW DAYS, with your won models PLUS M-Base models when yours are off or until you can find some... So DAY ONE you have girls on your website...

s he said come to QWEBEC EXPO and meet the team at 2 MUCH's booth. you then will see by yourself :)

Buying a $350,000 domain name without a game plan: priceless.

Seriously tho, I've been reading the camgirls threads and Mark's offer sounds like your best bet :2 cents:

Good luck to you.

Ok, I thought it was me not quite catching on here. That's right we offer a fully hosted and supported solution that features your own billing or our own solution; you can upgrade to various packages which let you keep all your money and not pay on a revenue share model.

But Mark's already on this so let's just make this a bump :P

:D

I am so happy right now (thanks for the love!) that I am going to post this again:

http://www.2much.net/bbs-pictures/chew.gif

Just go with Mark dude.

Nevermind

I do never tire of these threads :)

Camgirls, I hope you find someone in the business to partner up with, or at least someone you're willing to listen to who can stear you in the right direction. Just sitting on a domain and trying to guestimate your earning potential based off Cams.com topline revenue is like if I decided to open up a buger stand and looked to the profitability of McDonald's to base my ROI projections.

Too. Funny.

That's the thing about our deal; though the "revshare" option is kinda lika partner, ultimately, especially when you upgrade to full-indy status, it's no partnership. We offer the engine for a fully operational site; it's your traffic, your revenue, no "share" if you don't want it. You can stop using mbase when you have your own base of live models; you can share your live models to profit from other sites' traffic or not. Pick. Click. Profit.

:D

huh? who bought what for 350k?

The poster in this thread cam_girls bought the domain camgirls.com for 350k around 4 months ago.

Nice to see there's still whales out there buying up hyped domains.

I just searched cam girls on google and found our site on the 3rd page.

Didnt find camgirls there.

Just SEO your domain and keep all the money. Or pay someone to SEO it for a fee.

The "you invest this and such and such will happen" will put into big debt.

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sorry but are you high or something.. you keep talking about millions. why not start with learning the basics..

i noticed a lot of people are willing to give you some advice and all you do is keep talking about % en % there.. and not taking them serious.. be carefull with that.

be happy that they stayed nice to you on this board.. and are willing to help

Hopefully he will take you guys up on it. I think he might be expecting too much though. It seems like he's seeking someone to not only help him set up a white label but also someone to generate traffic to the site as well. :2 cents:

This is funny, I was reading this thread some time ago and thought it was funny... Now I found this in my mailbox.

Good luck with that :thumbsup

thats awesome. no one will even pay the 350k he paid for it. he's hoping to find someone as dumb and naive as he is.. but wow man, he set the bar pretty high in that respect.

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http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertain...log/drevil.jpg

"One MILLION Dollars!"

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Domain name is good, but not THAT good if you aim for strong branding. There are already many programs that use similar domain names - webcams, cams, camz etc, camgirls will not sound any different for an everage Joe.

I believe that generic but catchy domain name would do a better job of branding your cam product in current marketplace - at least it'll sound different from most of the other cam brands.

That said, if you ever want your $350K back, contact me.

Taking my sit.

oh my god

one question: have you ever even tried selling webcams before buying the domain? Have you made a singe affiliate sale before?

Because if you would, there is no way you would make such stupid calculations.

Anyone that has sent any traffic to a cam site knows more about webcam business than you do.

Everyone allways thinks there is big money to be made running a cam site, not everyone thinks about the fact that starting a new camsite is one of the hardest things to do ..

That is really nice of you to offer. I hope he takes you up on that. If he bought it straight w/o a loan he's probably even steven. Can't ask for more than that.:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Many of us tried to explain to him a couple months ago all that would be involved in getting into the cam biz and he just mocked us. Looks like he finally realized that he didn't have the resources necessary to start and nobody was going to partner with him based on his domain name alone.

I mocked you? 50 of you abused the crap out of me for buying a domain and saying its a big industry. This is the most spiteful industry on Earth. You're all SOOO interested in Camgirls.com but are all certain it's just a do nothing domain.

Do I really have to quote all of your sarcastic immature brushoffs every time someone tried to give you some constructive criticism and point you in the right direction? You acted so childish and stubborn as if you knew it all right from the beginning when it was obvious you didn't have a clue as to all that was going to be required to start a project of the scope you kept referring to. So why are you selling the domain now and abandoning your hopes of developing a cam site?

Sure go on, I asked you in the other thread to give an example of advice I ignored and you didn't. I was considering selling but only to a big company for a percentage of revenue.

i sell cams
but you have to be very special to get my traffic
And a lot tried, and failed. They all think webmasters are for sale with some revenue splitting. We are some bunch of cows for you or what ?

Just read the threads where your domain was discussed, you seem to ignore just about everyone. You were told early on that launching your own cam program would require more than you paid for your domain and it might take months/years to break even. After finally realizing that, you searched for a partner with money and considered a white label. Even after having the domain for over five months, you still don't even have a white label up on the domain, something that should take you less than an hour to do. Now that you realize nobody is going to partner with you based solely on the domain, you're trying to sell it outright for 3 times what you paid for it, lol.

The story so far...

people abused the crap out of you because of your attitude and your retarded assumptions, your ridiculous numbers and projections and the general idea that simply because you have a domain name, you are now special.

there is a massive difference between buying "sportscar.com" and becoming a car manufacturer that produces a decent sports car. but then again, its pretty amusing to watch dumbass, who knows nothing about cars try with someone else's money. so here you are... you show up telling us how much money Ferrari and Lamborghini make and how if you can just make X% of that... you're gonna be a baller.

you failed before you even started.

Rule #1 to investing: Stick to what you know and understand.

the single funniest thing about all your assumptions about the value of the name (in terms of trying to monetize it by building a cam site and affiliate program) is that everyone in the industry and millions to spend on domains... people with 10+ years experience passed on it. and that didn't tell you anything. that my friend, is priceless.

You're such a fucking ignorant dumbass.

A LOT of people came in the thread giving you advice, some even offered you some nice deals but you came with your dumb simplified nonsensical calculations and made an ass out of yourself. You're way too fucking stubborn, have a huge mouth, think you know it all and therefore I hope you fucking fail. You really do NOT deserve succeeding with the attitude you have on this board.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

CLASSIC

I don't see your logic since you told me to shoot myself after 1 post. You're like a buddy everyone can rely on, a great host on behalf of GFY, a man of analogies who always shares his interest no matter how far the the subject is beneath him.

If you had millions and more coming in would you buy an expensive domain, or just stick with what you know? Frank wasn't even selling any of his portfolio for several years. He turned down larger offers before me.

this guy will always be a failure

So wait, you have millions and more coming, yet you can't finance the cam project on your own and need a partner?

I don't know how you can stand to waste so much time on this moron :1orglaugh

Good question, most new webmasters looking to start something are eager to listen and learn and will try anything they can even though they might have limited resources. This guy already has a head start, yet he seems to think he knows it all already despite the efforts of those who have tried to steer him in the right direction.

I was referring to PPs comment that people with millions passed on the domain.

What direction are you talking about? Getting a white label? You suggested mtree and they require a traffic test so I'm doing that.

Cam_Girls:

Let's start over.

You have a good CAM domain name, but no experience running a CAM site. Your business expereince in the adult arena is also questionable as demonstrated by the numbers you posted a few times. (I'm sorry, but they are way off, and more importantly, are missing LOTS of details).

So what you need now is to learn all you can learn about running your own cam site, or, you need to partner with another cam site. You should for now become an affiliate of a cam site (or more) while you take the time to learn the busniess.

Think about it: You have invested $350,000 in that name. Don't you want to be armed with as much information possible to get a good ROI?

Finally, there will be a good seminar on CAM and DATING sites at the upcoming Qwebec Expo (http://www.qwebec.com). You should go to that show and check it out. You'll learn alot from industry giants, and perhaps make some new business partners as well.

Very to the point and sums everything up very concisely.







Very solid and sound advice.:thumbsup



Good luck with what you have learned. I recommend playing nice with everyone on this board, even when attacked because you will meet these guys at show and everyone seems to be friends with everyone else. As big as you think this business is, it is very small and close




keep in mind, if you think you know it all you will learn nothing.:2 cents:

Ah, so you don't have millions coming in, then you definitely should have stuck to putting your money into something you know. Most of my comments regarding your attitude were when you were talking about starting a cam site/program from scratch with your limited resources.

An affiliate white label with a custom logo should be quick and painless. The streamate cobrand you are referring to is quite a bit more extensive, especially since you want an affiliate program. Many of the streamate cobrands I know of have the free pps payout to affiliates just like that of mtree. That requires quite a bit of cash flow to sustain the affiliate program until breakeven. Meaning you are paying affiliates anywhere from $20-$35 for a free credit card verification even though you haven't taken in any revenue from them. Even if you only offer a true pps, you're still gonna have to float some cash to affiliates before you turn a profit on those sales.

Based on the traffic I'm seeing to your domain, I'll be shocked if Mtree approves a cobrand for you, but who knows. After Mtree rejects you, I'd just do the new Webcams.com white label and start pumping as much traffic as you can to it. Even if just from an affiliate standpoint, I think its gonna open your eyes as to just how much traffic you're gonna need to make even 2% of your projected numbers. Now think of all that traffic that is hitting the site and not converting and imagine all of the bandwidth they are using up bouncing from one camgirl to the other not buying a thing. You can then play with different traffic sources and see which ones give you an roi. If you can master traffic/marketing then you'll be much more prepared should you acquire the necessary funds to start your own site/program.

And he had various good offers, especially yours.

When I read that offer I had a look at your site and saw the normal pricing structure. I had taken that offer at once, if I were him. But I only have some cheaper cam domain names, so I couldn´t take it.

Yeah I wasn't sure if the offer included the hosting fees, but assumed it was giving him the license at no cost and just asking for the revshare. What's interesting is it now says "sold out" to a couple of their platforms, wonder if they are gonna open it up with the new flash platform.

I would have taken the offer for one of my domains gladly regardless if it included the hosting fees. It was a great offer either way. He could build up a product and add up own performers step by step without other large investments. And $125 for hosting isn´t that much for a camsite connection.

I'm still offering it...! If you would like to talk about it drop me a note via icq and I can give you a demo.

Can you clarify why a couple of your options are "sold out"?

What´s your ICQ?

I couldn´t find it anywhere. Blame my stupidity or the late night here.