Is it good that people need drugs and they pay for insurance and their insurance company denies them services, and posts massive profits? Is that actually ok with some of you? For petes sake. Maybe that wealth is ill gotten and not deserved. Call it restitution.

Health insurance does NOT equal health care. For petes sake when will people understand that? :winkwink:

Get rid of insurances all together and health CARE would be cheaper. :2 cents:

I cut and pasted EVERYTHING he said.

HOW ABOUT THIS TO START..

we stop being a nation of gluttonous, obese, unhealthy fucks.....

THEN we can start talking about universal health care, paid for largely by the people who typically aren't obese unhealthy fucks.

you want my money to pay for the consequences of YOU eating deep fried cheese sticks and ice cream for breakfast, lunch and dinner for 20-30 years? Not gonna happen.

THEN

lets stop the bullshit lawsuits for $38,000,000.00 because some bitch spilled hot coffee on herself.

Of course it would be cheaper without the private insurance companies NEEDING to keep up with their bottom line! Thats my point, thank you.

Dump this current bullshit system, it's just a cash cow and does not equal quality care, or care at all. It's about money. It's a private business. You are not a patient, you are barely a client, you are above all: a customer.

You did not understand what I posted, why doesn't he have any private health insurance like the 65% of canadians who do? THAT is the details I was referring to. You make it sound like he is FORCED to rely on Gov health care. falsehood. if he is unhappy with "bleeding for 3 months" like you posted, perhaps he should look into other options man, I dont want to argue about a man's life here, but really, he could get private insurance...

As I said: "Some 65% of Canadians have some form of supplementary private health insurance"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

And keep the government out of it. Obama cant even run a cash for clunkers program right! :Oh crap

No, that is what YOUR definition means. Both the dictionary and I have a different meaning.

If you dispute the dictionary, then everything as we know it is fucked because nothing is what it seems.

Have you seen the percentage of Americans in favor of a single payer health system? How is the world is the majority a "special interest?"

Tort reform is very much needed.

I probably could have retired off malpractice suits by now under the current system.

Yet I have never sued. Only once did a doctor fuck me up and I thought that he didn't have my best interests in mind in the first place. Outright negligence. Still debating suing him; I have plenty of time left to decide.

If you're a doctor and you're trying to help me and you screw up and it's not a common occurrence, hey, shit happens.

That John Stossel video is pure bullshit.

He argues that without private health insurance, there will be much less medical research and medical breakthroughs.

Since when do insurance companies fund research and invent new medicines and treatment?

His whole argument is flawed and it's nothing but a scare piece.

John Stossel became a conservative a few years ago as a career move, he's a total fake.

:2 cents:

The Obama administration and Congress' approach to health care reform may be receiving less support because it becomes less clear what the goals of this reform are supposed to be.

According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp., poll, 50% of Americans approve of Mr. Obama's health care plan while 45% of Americans disapprove. Mr. Obama aims to increase health care coverage for an estimated 47 million uninsured Americans. The Administration is pursuing this goal in light of a looming federal deficit whose increase is partially due to the increasing costs of Medicare and Medicaid. :warning

http://ll.vimg.net/imagesoa/cms/imag...6a7bbb4134.jpg

Some people protested the proposed health care overhaul and likened it to socialism.

Firstly it will not cost the average tax payer more, it will actually cost him or his employer less. Even a fool realises that if their paying for health care through their taxes they stop paying the private insurance charges. This will directly save them money as Americans now pay more for health care than any other country. Also it will reduce the cost of employing people. Many companies today pay the employees health insurance, these charges are far higher than national health care. AND all these charges are passed on to the customers. Don't ever think you're not paying for other peoples health care, if their boss is you are.

As for illegal immigrants unless you want to pay a lot more for your fruit and vegtables, plus a few other things, you benefit from illegal immigrants. Unless you can find Americans to do the same job for the same price.

Also saw another blinkered post about trusting the Government with your health, at the moment you trust and insurance company whose goal is profits, paying everyone fat salaries and share dividends. Do you really think they would do a better job?

And some people are morons, if that's their best argument they have a weak case.

A switch would mean what people or companies now pay insurance companies they pay in extra taxes. It would save them more not cost them more. But those getting backing off the insurance companies don't want you to know that. They just tell you of the increase in taxes.