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tranza 08-10-2009 10:27 AM

Mmmm, Ft. Lauderdale, it's a good place I think, but I've never been there... Just speculating... hahahahah.

BobG 08-10-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16162513)
Anywhere but CA.

Exactly! You'll hate it... bad traffic, no jobs, low pay, high prices of homes, rent and everything else, shallow, smug people....

ShellyCrash 08-10-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by smoke (Post 16162675)
Florida has diversity in culture but not activities.

I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment.

I currently live in the Tampa Bay area, and while I do find it lacks some things that I miss about living on the west coast or in a bigger city, it's pretty decent. If I stayed here the rest of my life I wouldn't be dissapointed.

The good things about FL are the taxes are low and the cost of living is fair. Real Estate might be over priced by some standards, but it's WAY below Cali.

I like the Tampa Bay area best in FL because the beaches are beautiful and we do have some decent metro culture with Tampa and St. Petersburg. We don't get as many shows as Atlanta or Austin, but we do get a decent amount, the crowds can be a little lack luster but I can't complain about the venues. Ybor city also has a decent club scene if that is something you are into.

I live in Clearwater- Dunedin to be exact. CNN Money magazine just named it the best place to retire. It's very suburban, low crime, and has a cute little downtown area with a few choice bars and restaurants. I don't know if I'll stay here forever, but the schools and the neighborhoods are good, a really great place to raise a fam.

The downside is you pretty much need a car. There are very few places you would want to live that have alot of things within walking distance and the public transportation blows. I know that's a bit of a trip for people who are used to living in larger cities. Things are pretty spread out.

But what I love most about down here is that it seems like no matter where I am I'm no more than 10 to 15 mins away from a beach. The powder white sand and super calm gulf costal waters are something to behold.

naughtywitch 08-10-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16162513)
Anywhere but CA.

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Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16167310)
Exactly! You'll hate it... bad traffic, no jobs, low pay, high prices of homes, rent and everything else, shallow, smug people....

Agreed - last week I spent over 4 hours in traffic to go about 20 miles each way to visit my sister and her baby in the hospital.

Plus, our sales tax just got raised, unemployment is up and our government is out of money...

dirtymind 08-10-2009 02:25 PM

i wouldn't go to cali. the state is broke. There can come no good of state that is broke and a dummy at the wheel.

"I'll be back"

hhahahaha

Go to Florida

SonOfaBeach 08-10-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16167364)
I live in Clearwater- Dunedin to be exact.

Howdy Neighbor!! I'm just down the street from you in Seminole... :thumbsup

I'd also put a vote in for FL - and the Tampa Bay area. (To be clear, I mean the areas surrounding the city of Tampa - I wouldn't want to live IN Tampa myself.) I've lived here 39 of my 42 years and still love the area. Everything is within reach - arts, entertainment, sports, beach, lakes, good food - there is something for everyone pretty much.

The only thing we are missing - is mountains! My wife - who's from Colombia - is always pointing that out... :)

Prodigee 08-10-2009 03:30 PM

East Coast of Canada is nice. Nova Scotia is like Boston and Cape Cod combined but on a smaller scale. Bit chilly compared to Cali and Florida though, so unless you enjoy scraping ice off your car I'd still stick with one of those.

ShellyCrash 08-10-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach (Post 16168386)
Howdy Neighbor!! I'm just down the street from you in Seminole... :thumbsup

I'd also put a vote in for FL - and the Tampa Bay area. (To be clear, I mean the areas surrounding the city of Tampa - I wouldn't want to live IN Tampa myself.)

Well! Howdy neighbor indeed! I have alot of friends in Seminole, also a good place to be. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

And I agree, I don't think I'd ever live IN tampa either. Maybe St. Pete, but not if you plan to have kids. Schools in St. Pete (and most of Tampa) are bad news. It's like KIDS down there. :(

tiger 08-11-2009 12:30 AM

Would really like to hear from more Austin peeps, seriously considering getting out of LA.

L-Pink 08-11-2009 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tiger (Post 16169650)
Would really like to hear from more Austin peeps, seriously considering getting out of LA.

Me too on the Austin info ..... :2 cents:

charlie3273 08-11-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16162513)
Anywhere but CA.

they dam near tax you to breath in that state and it is still broke.

v4 media 08-11-2009 04:24 AM

Sanibel's nice. or Kiawah Island in SC, close to Charleston for restaurants and stuff.

Toni 08-11-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16166361)
The Left coast sucks.. Especially the dust.. Go to Miami and check out Key Biscayne or even better Brickel..

Brickel, especially Brickel Key is nice but if we would pick Miami it should be right on the beach, as I have family we are considering Key Biscane. Also we like the two Continuum buildings on South Beach

Toni 08-11-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16166547)
Florida is good for vacation........not to live.

That's what I have been thinking too

Toni 08-11-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16167310)
Exactly! You'll hate it... bad traffic, no jobs, low pay, high prices of homes, rent and everything else, shallow, smug people....

Hmmm.....CA was on top of my list, my wife seems to prefer Miami

Toni 08-11-2009 11:59 AM

Nobody has a good word for California?

Tylo 08-11-2009 12:28 PM

I love living in Ft Lauderdale, plenty to do great weather, I honestly haven't had one complaint about it yet and I have lived there for 7 years now.

Penrod 08-11-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by digifan (Post 16162968)
Buy property on the Cayman Islands, 30 min from Miami, warm climate, nice houses or you can have your own.

I lived there for 4 years back in the 90's. If you purchase property in excess of $100K you get residency privleges.

Very expensive to live there though. Not much to do unless you like drinking and diving. Just not at the same time.

Penrod 08-11-2009 12:55 PM

Toni....Move to Tampa so we can finally meet face to face...LOL

SonOfaBeach 08-11-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16169095)
Well! Howdy neighbor indeed! I have alot of friends in Seminole, also a good place to be. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Really?? Interesting... This is where I've lived my whole life (practically), so we may have a mutual friend or two! :1orglaugh

Ron Bennett 08-11-2009 03:43 PM

California is practically a different country.

More to the point, the cost of living in California is very high, and economic future very bleak; too much regulation / nanny state.

With that said, if you don't mind living out in a rural area / smaller city, there are likely places, especially northern part, in CA that may be fine.

Personally, the choice between California and Florida is a no brainer - go with Florida.

Ft Lauderdale area is good, but for a family, as others have suggested, look at Tampa / Clearwater area ... be very selective though (visit, ask around, check quality of the schools [even if no kids], etc), since some seemingly nice suburban areas around there are very sketchy.

In regards to Orlando - don't even think about it ... very high crime, very little to do. Bad news!

Miami has a lot to do, but go with South Miami Beach (it's not just physically separate from Miami, it's a seperate city) if living there ... or live a bit to the north, such as Ft Lauderdale - it's close to Miami, but not too close.

On a related topic, if you're planning to run a local business in Florida (likewise to some extent in southern CA), be aware the work ethic is lousy - no biggie, if your work is all on-line.

Ron

L-Pink 08-11-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 16172479)
California is practically a different country.

More to the point, the cost of living in California is very high, and economic future very bleak; too much regulation / nanny state.

With that said, if you don't mind living out in a rural area / smaller city, there are likely places, especially northern part, in CA that may be fine.

Personally, the choice between California and Florida is a no brainer - go with Florida.

Ft Lauderdale area is good, but for a family, as others have suggested, look at Tampa / Clearwater area ... be very selective though (visit, ask around, check quality of the schools [even if no kids], etc), since some seemingly nice suburban areas around there are very sketchy.

In regards to Orlando - don't even think about it ... very high crime, very little to do. Bad news!

Miami has a lot to do, but go with South Miami Beach (it's not just physically separate from Miami, it's a seperate city) if living there ... or live a bit to the north, such as Ft Lauderdale - it's close to Miami, but not too close.

On a related topic, if you're planning to run a local business in Florida (likewise to some extent in southern CA), be aware the work ethic is lousy - no biggie, if your work is all on-line.

Ron

Good stuff ...... What's your take on the Ft. Myers and Cape Coral area? Houses there are so cheap right now. Thanks ....


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Kiwigirl 08-11-2009 06:18 PM

I'm in Riverview which is south of Tampa, FL.....and I love it!

~Ray 08-11-2009 07:11 PM

move to Austin.. vacation on the coasts

Smokieflame 08-11-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexk (Post 16162546)
In my opinion....San Diego is the nicest big city in the USA...great weather...professional sports...great restaurants...hot women...only downside is the high cost of housing and the California economy is kinda fucked

I agree! If you can afford it and dont mind waiting for a few years to get property La Jolla is very nice.

DaddyHalbucks 08-11-2009 07:19 PM

If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Florida.

Nothing good can come from blue state politics, and California is on its death bed.

Last I heard, 1,000 people were moving out of California each day. The kicker is.. an almost equal number of illegal immigrants enter each day.

WebCashMaker 08-11-2009 07:23 PM

I would love to live in Key West.

ShellyCrash 08-12-2009 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach (Post 16172042)
Really?? Interesting... This is where I've lived my whole life (practically), so we may have a mutual friend or two! :1orglaugh

We very well could. Did you know any punks in the area?

Toni 08-12-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Penrod (Post 16171786)
Toni....Move to Tampa so we can finally meet face to face...LOL

Yeah, LOL

VIPimp 08-12-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Toni (Post 16175241)
Yeah, LOL

no no move to san jose /silicon valley so that WE could finally meet face 2 face! :winkwink:

SonOfaBeach 08-12-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16174271)
We very well could. Did you know any punks in the area?

Punks as in The Clash / Drop Kick Murphys - or - punks as in lil wanna be hoodlums?? :1orglaugh

If it's the former, yes, but we're talking waaaaaay back to my high school days (the 80's) of which I have very little recollection of anymore - except for one good buddy back then - Alan B. from Seminole (not sure if he's still in the area though - I thought I heard he was). Don't really know any current punkers tho. I may be too old!! :helpme

If it's the latter - then no... but I would like to catch the 'punks' the recently broke into a few cars in our neighborhood. :disgust



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Originally Posted by Kiwigirl (Post 16172873)
I'm in Riverview which is south of Tampa, FL.....and I love it!

Ya know, with all of the folks in the Tampa Bay area, why aren't there more GFY meet-ups or biz networking opportunities?? (Then again, maybe there are and I just haven't been invited yet! :321GFY )

StarCash 08-12-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 16175251)
no no move to san jose /silicon valley so that WE could finally meet face 2 face! :winkwink:

San Jose should be very cool place!

Toni 08-12-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 16175251)
no no move to san jose /silicon valley so that WE could finally meet face 2 face! :winkwink:

I didn't know that you are in San Jose, I will hit you up the next days for a chat :winkwink:

VIPimp 08-13-2009 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Toni (Post 16175789)
I didn't know that you are in San Jose, I will hit you up the next days for a chat :winkwink:

Yea been here all my life... lmk if you have any q's about anything here.

Toni 08-18-2009 03:19 AM

Seems that Florida has a big crime rate or let's call it over average, hm.

Fort Lauderdale seems to be very interesting and could be a good city for some additional retail business because of the big number of tourists there.

sperbonzo 08-18-2009 07:08 AM

Personally I live in Miami, I have lived in San Diego and LA. The only way to live in Miami is on the water, and to have a boat. With that, it's a tropical paradise. Living inland, it's simply flat and hot, with bugs.

For me, living in Miami is all about the water.... diving, cruising, taking the boat to the islands, etc.... There are some good places to eat, and good clubs, etc.... but that's not the real thing for me, there are more places in LA than Miami.

Compared to Southern Cali though, prices are MUCH MUCH cheaper here, perhaps half as much for similar properties. Also there is no state income tax, which instantly adds 7.5% to your income in Florida.

As for hurricaines, the possibility of one actually hitting direct enough to do damage are very low. You have DAYS of warning to decide whether to stock up your bar, and just have a party while watching stuff fly sideways past the hurricaine-proof windows, or get out of dodge and take a quick road trip to Orlando or something.

I was in LA for the 1994 earthquake and there is no warning AT ALL....
I'll take the storms.

Problems with LA and San Diego for me are: Cali state income tax, real estate twice as expensive, unreal traffic 7 days a week, and I found a lot of the people to be a bit too focused on trends and fashions in everything, from what they did as a hobby, to what they ate... not very real.

The last thing was weather. If you like sub-tropical weather.... which I do, then Miami is great. Southern Cali was just too cold for me a lot of the time.

My own personal thoughts....


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ShellyCrash 08-18-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach (Post 16175434)
Punks as in The Clash / Drop Kick Murphys - or - punks as in lil wanna be hoodlums?? :1orglaugh

If it's the former, yes, but we're talking waaaaaay back to my high school days (the 80's) of which I have very little recollection of anymore - except for one good buddy back then - Alan B. from Seminole (not sure if he's still in the area though - I thought I heard he was). Don't really know any current punkers tho. I may be too old!! :helpme

I'm about a generation or half a generation younger, went to high school in the 90's. Our shows gravitated around Joe Mochas / the Refuge in St. Pete and State Theatre mostly, Junction Pizza here and there, etc. There were a few bands from Seminole, like the Scams, etc, who I'm still friends with now. Don't think I know an Alan B though :(


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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach (Post 16175434)
Ya know, with all of the folks in the Tampa Bay area, why aren't there more GFY meet-ups or biz networking opportunities?? (Then again, maybe there are and I just haven't been invited yet! :321GFY )

I know there was one Tampa webmaster gathering. Met up for dinner at the Hard Rock, played some poker in the casino and then went to Club Hedo in ybor. Kiwi Girl was there, Dirty D and crew, the Camz guys drove up from the other coast, Twinkley / Danielle and her man friend, Matt O, and that's all I can recall at the moment.

Jay also brought Cybernet Expo to Tampa one year, I think we did it at the double tree. I was happy with it, but naturally I am biased. Jay, if you read this, ever thinking about coming back to Tampa?

TheLegacy 08-18-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Toni (Post 16162492)
If you guys would have to pick where would you live? Florida or California?
What would be the best place to live in the USA? Miami, San Diego, Fort Lauderdale, Silicon Valley, San Jose, Key Biscane?.?

Last time i checked, Florida wasn't expecting the "big one" to dump it into the ocean - go with Florida since the land will always be there after the hurricane

http://www.tombradleylegacy.org/imag...arthquake2.jpg

Toni 08-18-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 16200281)
Personally I live in Miami, I have lived in San Diego and LA. The only way to live in Miami is on the water, and to have a boat. With that, it's a tropical paradise. Living inland, it's simply flat and hot, with bugs.

For me, living in Miami is all about the water.... diving, cruising, taking the boat to the islands, etc.... There are some good places to eat, and good clubs, etc.... but that's not the real thing for me, there are more places in LA than Miami.

Compared to Southern Cali though, prices are MUCH MUCH cheaper here, perhaps half as much for similar properties. Also there is no state income tax, which instantly adds 7.5% to your income in Florida.

As for hurricaines, the possibility of one actually hitting direct enough to do damage are very low. You have DAYS of warning to decide whether to stock up your bar, and just have a party while watching stuff fly sideways past the hurricaine-proof windows, or get out of dodge and take a quick road trip to Orlando or something.

I was in LA for the 1994 earthquake and there is no warning AT ALL....
I'll take the storms.

Problems with LA and San Diego for me are: Cali state income tax, real estate twice as expensive, unreal traffic 7 days a week, and I found a lot of the people to be a bit too focused on trends and fashions in everything, from what they did as a hobby, to what they ate... not very real.

The last thing was weather. If you like sub-tropical weather.... which I do, then Miami is great. Southern Cali was just too cold for me a lot of the time.

My own personal thoughts....


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Nice post, thanks!


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