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georgeyw 08-13-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

AFAIK - i've never sent in any documentation. If I have, then I wouldn't have a clue as to what it was to input that number :2 cents:

Plus the fact ID such as drivers licences have different numbers on renewal/moving etc etc...

EDIT :

I don't have a huge problem with this, what does annoy me to hell is that epass never ever seems to have any forewarning about these kinds of changes. This morning I needed to check my account and didn't have my id on me and it's asking for this info - so in goes a bunch of random bs so I can get in. Guess it will mean my account is locked out soon enough.

Machete_ 08-13-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

unless those have been updated, Epass would only need "the supporting records (consisting of the original documents or copies) in respect of a business relationship or occasional transaction which is the subject of customer due diligence measures or ongoing monitoring. "

In other words - if a customer loads the epass account from a Creditcard, then that counts as verification, if the card is issued through the country the customer claims he is from.

I would still claim that EU Directive 95/46/EC makes it illegal for you to ask for, and store the information you have requested

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.



ID is one thing, although I think it is kinda shady to require ID after advertising that people could use their online persona for Epass. Doesn't inconvenience me any and I kind of think you all already have all that on file for me anyway. So a couple of questions:

(1) Why the bank or credit card statement, though?

(2) Why make this change after pretty much inviting webmasters to use nick info instead of their names?

SarahLLO 08-13-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 16181309)
Haven't received any info about this, will any additional ID be required for international webmasters?

I'm not international, but I haven't received anything about this either.

But then again, I only use epass for a few sponsors... maybe it's only if you tend to send/receive lots and lots of money?

georgeyw 08-13-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 16182264)
I'm not international, but I haven't received anything about this either.

But then again, I only use epass for a few sponsors... maybe it's only if you tend to send/receive lots and lots of money?

Login to your account - you'll get the message too...

SarahLLO 08-13-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 16182280)
Login to your account - you'll get the message too...

Was just coming back to post that, haha.

DaddyHalbucks 08-13-2009 07:55 PM

It's no big deal to me.

:)

VeriSexy 08-13-2009 07:58 PM

Entered my info, surprised they didn't require to scan in docs

Barefootsies 08-13-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16180609)
You guys are funny.

:2 cents:

J. Falcon 08-13-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 16180829)
You can send them the docs after you have photochopped them thats what i did on my account and they accepted them fine.... :1orglaugh

Im not joking btw i really did send them fake document ids and they accepted them without a problem :thumbsup

Just goes to show how much requiring you to send your id in actually means :2 cents:

Smart of you to mention that here. :error

J. Falcon 08-13-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 16180723)
Mr Orwell was right about 1984

oh you conspiracy theorist they all tell me :)

2+2 = 5

dumbest post ever

Michael O 08-13-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16182227)
ID is one thing, although I think it is kinda shady to require ID after advertising that people could use their online persona for Epass. Doesn't inconvenience me any and I kind of think you all already have all that on file for me anyway. So a couple of questions:

(1) Why the bank or credit card statement, though?

(2) Why make this change after pretty much inviting webmasters to use nick info instead of their names?

1) To follow Visa's Know Your Customer rules.

2) We have always required information about our Card Holders for example when certain amounts were accumulated or request for limit increases.

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 08:02 PM

Actually, upon reflection, I'm pretty sure I did fax over my ID when I first signed up for Epass. If my data is being taken such good care of, what happened to that fax with my info on it?

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182346)
1) To follow Visa's Know Your Customer rules.

2) We have always required information about our Card Holders for example when certain amounts were accumulated or request for limit increases.


So why would I be asked for my bank statement or credit card statement for a MasterCard?

brassmonkey 08-13-2009 08:15 PM

now their trying 2 track us this is bullshit

Michael O 08-13-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16182352)
So why would I be asked for my bank statement or credit card statement for a MasterCard?

Because ePassporte virtual and Electron card is a Visa product ergo we have to follow their rules.

V_RocKs 08-13-2009 08:29 PM

Word to the wise... Use your passport number if you have one...

J. Falcon 08-13-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 16182410)
Word to the wise... Use your passport number if you have one...

Why is that?

brassmonkey 08-13-2009 09:08 PM

yeah why

Webmaster Advertising 08-13-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16182493)
Why is that?

Because its much harder to steal someones identity using a passport than it is a drivers license, credit card statement, phone bill, etc, etc...

DavieVegas 08-13-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 16180378)
WTF, how much shit of mine do they need!

Ya, this is getting a little rediculous seriously. I had to give them my damn driver liscense number for some reason.

RyuLion 08-13-2009 09:35 PM

thank goodness!

When I was living in Mexico City a couple of people (talent) showed me a epass card and they said they loved it because it was the easiest way to get USD (cams, affiliate payments) vs. wires.

DWB 08-13-2009 10:00 PM

Micheal, is it normal for the Nigerian Epass branch to email me and ask for my online bank password?

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2009 10:12 PM

if i log in and see this message after already uploading all my docs twice and having my account suspended twice and after already being promised twice i would never have to do this again i will be pissed.

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2009 10:14 PM

ok now i'm pissed ... why not fucking do this for your fucking account holders whom have already fucking filled in the fucking info you fucking retarded motherfucking lying donkey fuckers.

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

what # , the id # , you have to be shitting me if your telling me you are recording and storing passport #'s online ?

qwe 08-13-2009 11:00 PM

this is ridiculous.... Michael how exactly epass is going to verify that information? i'm guessing it will not be verified at all, just incase ?

papill0n 08-13-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16181080)
After all those adverts Epass ran about be who you want to be, I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

Did you all see that, in addition to ID and a copy of the card, they want a copy of your bank statement or credit card statement before they will let you withdraw your funds?

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182396)
Because ePassporte virtual and Electron card is a Visa product ergo we have to follow their rules.

I'm pretty sure I did fax over my ID when I first signed up for Epass. If my data is being taken such good care of, what happened to that fax with my info on it please?

qwe 08-13-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 16182743)
Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

and how exactly asking for id's which will not be verified is going to help? not to mention what will happen if all those id records get hacked or stolen somehow?

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 16182743)
Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

lol, yah he must not have seen all the stories of people arrested for fraud due to investigation by epassporte. and all the stories of people getting their money back after being frauded on epassporte..:winkwink:

oh wait a second , i havent heard any stories of people getting their money back or anyone arrested after frauding epassporte members..

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 16182743)
Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.


Tinfoil hat? Don't be silly. If Citibank and Bank of America and Lehman Brothers could all run out of money, I really don't think Epass is a better established more stable financial services company than those.

A request for ID (which I have already complied with) is one thing, but a request for my bank statement from someone who is holding my money (not vice-versa) seems peculiar at best.

Don't get me wrong. I find it highly plausible that fraud is up when the economy is down. Having gone through the joys of billing through Globill and being an iBill affiliate, however, I don't believe that billing companies always just take their fee and hand over my funds.

I'm guessing from your 2007 reg date that maybe you are just really new to this, but the slightest bit of either history or current events shows that caution with financial institutions is just practical sense.

Mr. Billy 08-13-2009 11:49 PM

I guess it would be prudent here to ask the folks at epassport to post a copy of the regulations they are attempting to comply with.

If, as some of you have indicated, this is not the first time you have had to provide information, then epassporte people should post regulations describing the frequency with which identification is to be checked.

I do believe that some type of identification such as this may well be required to do business by wire transfer or internet on an international basis.

At this point they would do themselves a favor to post a FAQ of some sort detailing the regulations or card company requirements that make this necessary.

SmokeyTheBear 08-13-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Billy (Post 16182833)
I guess it would be prudent here to ask the folks at epassport to post a copy of the regulations they are attempting to comply with.

If, as some of you have indicated, this is not the first time you have had to provide information, then epassporte people should post regulations describing the frequency with which identification is to be checked.

I do believe that some type of identification such as this may well be required to do business by wire transfer or internet on an international basis.

At this point they would do themselves a favor to post a FAQ of some sort detailing the regulations or card company requirements that make this necessary.

i find it a bit strange also. i have several visa accounts at some of the biggest banks around , i have never been asked for my id, never had my accounts put on hold , never asked for a bank statement , id # or anything remotely similar. They have my ss # thats it. epassporte should be suing , how are they expected to run a biz when they are asked to comply with rules nobodt else has to.

Jack Sparrow 08-13-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

The end of taxfree earnings for eu people then? :winkwink:

Raf1 08-14-2009 12:09 AM

they do require quite a lot but as long as there is no money stealing involved it's ok with me.

OrangeContent 08-14-2009 12:13 AM

Filled it in, no problems afterwards.

felipeav 08-14-2009 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182346)
1) To follow Visa's Know Your Customer rules.

I think this is great as epassporte fraud grows as the prefered method for receiving $ from fraudalent affiliates. People doing legitim business shouldn't care. :2 cents:

What about affiliates that send you fake documents as a couple "suggested" in this thread? You won't be following "Visa's Know Your Customer" right...

neak 08-14-2009 03:54 AM

It's because of the new initiative to clamp down on tax havens/tax evasion.

seeandsee 08-14-2009 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 16180396)
Blood and urine samples are next

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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