Scammers will kick and scream about it. :) Everyone else... Business as usual.

EDIT: 100 Scammers Kicking & Screaming

Can't see the problem with that. It's all part of and compliance with the regulations and directives. Here is the directives for EU:

http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...e/index_en.htm

There is also an annex for data protection.

I got no problem giving them my info.

Email me your UserID and I will get it removed.

Look guys you if you use your account regularly and push a little money through your account then you would already have supplied ID. Just enter the number of the ID you already supplied and its done.

This has gone out to all accounts if you have already supplied ID should you have had to enter it again? No, but its on all accounts and I apologize for wasting a couple of minutes of your time, I know it annoying but thats the way it is. It will be on all new accounts as well.

We try to be as compliant as possible so we can be here for the long run.

About the documents:
Smokey I have told you on ICQ after you raised the question the last time that all documents can only be viewed by trusted staff located in the US.
I have been with ePassporte almost 4 years and I have access to NO information on accounts because I work remotely. We take the privacy and security of our Card Holders and their information very serious.

ePassporte have been in business for 6-7 years now while others have come and gone, we plan on being in business for many more years to come this is why we are asking for the this information so we comply with rules and regulations where we operate.

If anyone have questions about this or anything else about their account please email me at [email protected]

Oh and EuropeanLee
Might be an idea to clean out your ePassporte accounts before they are canned :winkwink:

lol

Does O stand for Owned?

I dont know nor do I care. Ask someone from epassporte.

:winkwink: back at ya big guy. I was frauded and I at least got some of the money back. Just like all online fraud I suspect a very small percentage of people are arrested. For me and plenty of others the benefits of using epassporte far out way the negatives. Don't like it? Don't use their service.

Funny how you completely avoided the part of your intial post I responded to and instead bring up my gfy registration date instead. Just for the record your guess is way off but feel free to reply with a comment about my post count as that is always a winner here.

I don't even disagree that many of these account verification procedures seem redundant but to suggest that they are some how designed to lock up peoples accounts so epassporte can keep their money is absurd.


Well said Michael.

Wasn't my intention to avoid responding to any part of your post? What do you feel I didn't fully respond to?

If you are not new to this, don't you recall how many billers have come up first with excuses not to pay and then finally simply not paid?

Can't speak for US PayPal, but in Europe PP is a registered bank (in Ireland I think, but I could be mistaken) and they do ask to fax 2 IDs for personal accounts that shift >?3k/yr and all business accounts (3 IDs). :2 cents:

I faxed in a copy of my passport, with the last 4 numbers erased and driving license (same) and bank account statement with the account # erased and all ? amounts erased.

Paypal accepted this after a follow-up call, since it proved 100% who I am without actually giving away any personal information. Many many thousands have passed through my PayPal account without any problem.

This is why I will not touch ePassporte at all - having PayPal as a registered bank in Europe is fine for me. Having ePass registered as some financial institution somewhere god knows where where it's impossible to call them is NOT fine.

to get around that screen just hit the home button on top the the page and it takes you to ur account ;x
yea im taking all my money away from them

no reason they need that after ive provided them with EVERYYYY freakin document they asked for

paypal requires social security number for US clients

again no issue regarding taxes
its i just dont trust submiting that online

hell i use a prepaid visa to shoponline ;x

I am so glad that I no longer use them.

Those of us doing daily adult business cannot simply use Paypal for everything, epass allows those of us dealing with daily adult industry business transactions to do so without risk of having the account closed simply because the nature of our biz is "adult."

Shame its not Lee then isnt it LOL

Im Paul :)

i understand thats what you said , and not saying i dont trust you, but i heard the same company lines from ibill and many others. I dont know what "trusted staff" means to epassporte, are they insured , are they monitored, are they usa citizens ? What kind of steps are in place incase of a leak. etc etc

and did they ever contact you to file charges ? did they open a police report ? did they let you know what their investigation found ?



ahh so if you dont like air polution instead of doing something about it you stop breathing ? :winkwink:

seems like a silly solution , if you have a problem , just quit..

Yeah right!

Looking at your old posts and it kind off lead to [email protected] and the Whois says Lee Windsor and http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=846319 and so on.
If you are not busy emptying your accounts let continue this tomorrow because I am having quite a bit of fun, I like tracking people and their info :)

Lee some people have underestimated me and they have all regretted it :)

no you dont... 15+ years with usa banks/visa, never had to submit any id ever..:2 cents:

So im not allowed to work for someone?

I work for Lee and Gary.

Yes they own the domain name because it is there company i am just an employee.

I can second that, Paul is actually an employee and not an alias of Lee!!!

oh by the way, i have no problems complying with the new rules (I just logged in and entered my info)...after all it, epass complying with aml rules makes it safer for all of us!

employees gone wild :1orglaugh

ROGUE employees

I have not gone wild and im not a rogue emplyee either thank you very much haha

This is a perfect example of what happens when people jump to conclusions, Michael made an ass of himself thinking i was someone i was not, no harm, no foul maybe next time he thinks he is being clever he will stop to think about if he actually is being or not :2 cents:

Still does not change the fact that i did not want my real name being associated with online porn and sent them a photoshopped id with my porn name on it and they accepted it.

Quite the opposite for me.

I can third that ... Paul does indeed work FOR Lee, and it is Paul who is posting.

Looks like he has been for jumping to conclusions haha

Do you know roughly what that figure is? I have been using Paypal on a near daily basis since 2000 without an issue.

yes I had to put my ID number

Won't be too hard to find your account, I would quite while a head. All he needs to do is look at transactions from your "boss" made out to "you", I am sure there are monthly amounts to a certain account consistently.

I love these banks, etc checking up on people all in the name if "anti-money laundering" it's all bullshit...

anti-money laundering is just another way of saying "making sure that everyone pays their unconstitutional, overreaching, and anti-liberty taxes"

lol

It's ?2.5-3k movement per year (for me) and they don't ask for a lot -just faxed copies of IDs, giving a list of 5 valid IDs (all have to show your address). I sent them the required with identifying numbers (bank account/passport ID) blacked out with no problem whatsoever.

So this "re-submit your ID number electronically is IMO total bullshit and more importantly totally illegal in Europe.

The fact this company is not European should ring many alarm bells with Europeans, because we have strict data protection laws for a very good reason....ePassport does not have to abide with these laws at all, yet have publicly stated in this thread they are following certain European laws, but not others....

I understand that. As you might be aware, I was working in adult for at least the last couple months :winkwink:. I'm just stating an objective fact: Paypal works well. Epass doesn't. It's an undeniable fact. The sole fact that the whole company has only 1 (one) person that knows his job, and to who we all need to run for help every single time EP fucks something (which is a per-week basis) demonstrates this fact without a shadow of a doubt.

Then again, they ask for massive amounts of personal information like every month (as if they don't already have it), information that a serious company doesn't require. Makes you go "huh?".

Anyway, I submitted my info without a problem, I did it 1 hundred times already so it's just another day at EP world, no harm done, I'm just pointing OBJECTIVE FACTS that no one (not even Michael O) could ever ever ever answer.

And sorry Michael, but about your statement saying "only people in US will see the info"... is that supposed to be a guarantee? Like... "hey, I've an US passport hence I'm the most honest people in the world" ? AFAIK, more than 50% of the scammers I know are from US (just take a look in this site and you'll see) and every single problem I had with EP led me to people who spoke even worse English than me (and that's saying something). To the very least, 99.99% of US companies seems to have "rogue employees" :winkwink: at some time or another, so why should we be cool with providing info we already submitted SEVERAL TIMES and you're not even aware of? What happened with what we already submitted? A "rogue employee" lost/stole/burnt/packed a sandwich with it? A tornado over Netherlands Antilles blew it off? You have so extreme security measures about info you don't even know what you have? As you can see, reasonable questions for non-reasonable behaviors

Again Michael, not trying to attack you or anything, as I told you many times you're one of the few reasons EPass still exists as a business and I truly appreciate all what you have did for me. I just can't understand why EP acts the way they do, and sincerely, I hope the money is really good for you, because I really don't understand how you take all the heat you take due to the incompetence of your fellow workers :( I worked several years in banks and CC business, and if I or any of us did just one of the things EP employees does every single day, we'd be fired in question of seconds, believe me

Geez it is not that bad just punched in my drivers lic. and boom done:thumbsup And who cares who knows what if someone trys to take over my identity they would find themselves even more fucked than they are now. LOL I got shitty credit and all kinda misc bullshit if you want to be me I say go for it.:1orglaugh

So you are saying that if there's an audit by VISA EU they will deal with US people and not epass europe staff? LOL that's a good one...

Click-click on the form. Fine & Dandy you got some info.

Now Micheal for the questions. :Oh crap
1) EU(or USA laws) laws don't apply to Canadians so WTF are you bugging me for?
2) You are aware(I hope) that the fines for breaking Canadian Privacy laws are around $100k per instance?

Good luck getting money from a US company for breaking Canadian laws in the US :thumbsup

For everyone here who says they prefer paypal.... doesn't paypal prohibit the use of their service for adult transactions?

I entered in the number from my drivers license that I faxed them a copy of earlier, I have nothing to hide.

Another problem with epass is that we dont know which law apply... One of my friend had a business account with them in the past and to load his business account he had to send a wire in curacao if I clearly remember. At the back of his epass card it was saying that the card was from a bank in st-kitts and now they claim it's about EU regulation so go figure where's the money really.

Hey Michael If I sue someone and have a judgment against them and want seize the money in the epass account of someone under which law I need to go claim my money? US, St-Kitts, Curacao, EU?

happens all the time..

Have put alot more than that through paypal and they have never ever asked for any form of personal ID whatsoever.

i dont think that's required for affiliates for withdrawing

I have yet to see any Foreign Individual's get money from such a lawsuit

Did the same took two secs and was easy....

Thats bullshit mate, since if you reach a certain volume (think it depends where you are based) you are asked for a lot more than a copy of your drivers license, surprised to see somebody that has been around for so long say something like this.. *sign*

Migth wanna ask them since I use the European Paypal Luxembourg division (and thats when the whole - "you reached blabla we need craploads of info on you" thing started)

If you have been using them on a daily basis I'm pretty sure you already surpassed the value when they locked my account and asked for almost everything except a sperm and blood sample :1orglaugh

for the US, the law is anything above $3000 as a individual. But most do it before anyway