you're right, I would love to know how much they are making on this :2 cents:

+1 :pimp

Yep, it's BS. If this is to fight fraud why didn't they ask for all this info when I first signed up? They waited until I tried to withdraw money and then disabled withdrawing money until I sent in the docs. There was no warning or anything. I've been using my account for a damn long time without sending that info in, now they suddenly want it to fight fraud? Yeah right.

As someone else here said, paypal doesn't ask for near this much info. All the info paypal wants is upfront too, none of this sneaky random disabling withdrawing cash crap.

As soon you do a certain volume (total) with Paypal they ask for A LOT more information...while locking your account and funds there of course :winkwink:

Dont be silly? LOL :1orglaugh

You claim they are doing this to avoid paying us, who is being silly?

:winkwink:

I dont have a problem with identifying myself - hell, I have all my whois and company tax info right out in the open, and have had that since day #1

The problem, is sending personal information out of the country, to a place you cant legally touch if they handle your information wrong.

Epass should just open up for the "wire-in" function again, and let people send a $5 deposit from from their bank account as validation, or use the regular visa load, as a way of Identification.

• - Epassporte did not explain to customers in details why they needed the new information.
• - Epassporte have not yet told us how they plan to store that kind of sensetive personal information.
• - Epassporte have not told us what they did with the information we send them the first time, and why we need to submit the same (or more) personal information again
  

I just returned form a 3day trip to Switzerland with my bikes, and Epass actually saved my ass on the way home, because I forgot my Gas-card only works with Diesel.

I don't mind giving the ID as long as my money are safe

I filled it out for both of my accounts. It was no big deal, especially if it cuts down on scammers.

although we have no evidence to suggets it cuts down on scammers.

So really all you are doing is giving your complete identity to someone who is likely making less than $50/hour, someone that may or may not be a citizen of your country, someone that may or may not be bound by the same privacy laws you are . Someone who may or may not be in a secure facility, and may or may not be monitored. All this despite the fact we havent heard of one other banking facility asking for this information.. hmm okay..

bout time

I just canceled my personal Epassporte acccount, and I will cancle the two business accounts on monday.
http://www.ebusdk.com/gfx/temp/epass...aks-id-law.gif



It is simply illegal for epassporte to store that kind of personal information, and I wont support a company that deals that way. I have mostly been a happy Epassporte customer up to this point, but it's just insane that they can even THINK of doing stuff like this.

It really makes me question what kind of people run the management of the company

The only work I will loose over this is the beermoney deals - I can live without that.

everybody loves a good screenshot!

Is there a way to change banks on an epassporte account?

j.falcon - silly billy

what else can do about...

Nicely said,i also don't have any problems with this,it's normal...
You get to do same when u ask cc from your or any other bank in the world.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Spot on!

I'm reminded of the Canadian govt. going after e-Bay recently... was just having a conversation about whether or not I should declare my epass revenue... guess that's a moot point now, the Canadian govt. will be receiving my passport and epassporte numbers soon... sigh.

:D

I've no problem at all with this, other than the fact they ask for new docs every single month. Even worse: docs we've already sent 100 times and they're too dumb to realize that. I seriously doubt they archive that, otherwise they could check what's in file for any given card holder and that's it. Then again, Epass people aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, to say the least (exception made of Michael O, of course)

btw, I submitted my docs many times, they agreed they have it, not before Michael had to do some stuff to made them realize the docs were there (because they were in Spanish and they only speak Engrish!!!) and after all that, I have been seeingn the following for more than a year:

HOW STUPID CAN YOU GUYS BE???? :Oh crap :helpme :disgust :1orglaugh :mad:

on a side note: Paypal works great. Epass doesn't. Yet Paypal (nor any other similar service that I know of) doesn't ask for any of the damn info Epass does, and the excuse is "US government asks for it" and they are in... Netherlands Antilles!!!

btw, the "fraud excuse" is crap. We all know that when you've been scammed with Epass they will do nothing to protect you and they'll protect the scammer. Anyone that had a problem with an epass cardholder scammer knows it, and it's not like they don't have the info of the scammer (remember: even when they don't know what the fuck they did with the info, you had to send it to operate with epass).

Anyway, same old, same old, just ranting

Scammers will kick and scream about it. :) Everyone else... Business as usual.

EDIT: 100 Scammers Kicking & Screaming

Can't see the problem with that. It's all part of and compliance with the regulations and directives. Here is the directives for EU:

http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...e/index_en.htm

There is also an annex for data protection.

I got no problem giving them my info.

Email me your UserID and I will get it removed.

Look guys you if you use your account regularly and push a little money through your account then you would already have supplied ID. Just enter the number of the ID you already supplied and its done.

This has gone out to all accounts if you have already supplied ID should you have had to enter it again? No, but its on all accounts and I apologize for wasting a couple of minutes of your time, I know it annoying but thats the way it is. It will be on all new accounts as well.

We try to be as compliant as possible so we can be here for the long run.

About the documents:
Smokey I have told you on ICQ after you raised the question the last time that all documents can only be viewed by trusted staff located in the US.
I have been with ePassporte almost 4 years and I have access to NO information on accounts because I work remotely. We take the privacy and security of our Card Holders and their information very serious.

ePassporte have been in business for 6-7 years now while others have come and gone, we plan on being in business for many more years to come this is why we are asking for the this information so we comply with rules and regulations where we operate.

If anyone have questions about this or anything else about their account please email me at [email protected]

Oh and EuropeanLee
Might be an idea to clean out your ePassporte accounts before they are canned :winkwink:

lol

Does O stand for Owned?

I dont know nor do I care. Ask someone from epassporte.

:winkwink: back at ya big guy. I was frauded and I at least got some of the money back. Just like all online fraud I suspect a very small percentage of people are arrested. For me and plenty of others the benefits of using epassporte far out way the negatives. Don't like it? Don't use their service.

Funny how you completely avoided the part of your intial post I responded to and instead bring up my gfy registration date instead. Just for the record your guess is way off but feel free to reply with a comment about my post count as that is always a winner here.

I don't even disagree that many of these account verification procedures seem redundant but to suggest that they are some how designed to lock up peoples accounts so epassporte can keep their money is absurd.


Well said Michael.

Wasn't my intention to avoid responding to any part of your post? What do you feel I didn't fully respond to?

If you are not new to this, don't you recall how many billers have come up first with excuses not to pay and then finally simply not paid?

Can't speak for US PayPal, but in Europe PP is a registered bank (in Ireland I think, but I could be mistaken) and they do ask to fax 2 IDs for personal accounts that shift >?3k/yr and all business accounts (3 IDs). :2 cents:

I faxed in a copy of my passport, with the last 4 numbers erased and driving license (same) and bank account statement with the account # erased and all ? amounts erased.

Paypal accepted this after a follow-up call, since it proved 100% who I am without actually giving away any personal information. Many many thousands have passed through my PayPal account without any problem.

This is why I will not touch ePassporte at all - having PayPal as a registered bank in Europe is fine for me. Having ePass registered as some financial institution somewhere god knows where where it's impossible to call them is NOT fine.

to get around that screen just hit the home button on top the the page and it takes you to ur account ;x
yea im taking all my money away from them

no reason they need that after ive provided them with EVERYYYY freakin document they asked for

paypal requires social security number for US clients

again no issue regarding taxes
its i just dont trust submiting that online

hell i use a prepaid visa to shoponline ;x

I am so glad that I no longer use them.

Those of us doing daily adult business cannot simply use Paypal for everything, epass allows those of us dealing with daily adult industry business transactions to do so without risk of having the account closed simply because the nature of our biz is "adult."

Shame its not Lee then isnt it LOL

Im Paul :)

i understand thats what you said , and not saying i dont trust you, but i heard the same company lines from ibill and many others. I dont know what "trusted staff" means to epassporte, are they insured , are they monitored, are they usa citizens ? What kind of steps are in place incase of a leak. etc etc

and did they ever contact you to file charges ? did they open a police report ? did they let you know what their investigation found ?



ahh so if you dont like air polution instead of doing something about it you stop breathing ? :winkwink:

seems like a silly solution , if you have a problem , just quit..

Yeah right!

Looking at your old posts and it kind off lead to [email protected] and the Whois says Lee Windsor and http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=846319 and so on.
If you are not busy emptying your accounts let continue this tomorrow because I am having quite a bit of fun, I like tracking people and their info :)

Lee some people have underestimated me and they have all regretted it :)

no you dont... 15+ years with usa banks/visa, never had to submit any id ever..:2 cents:

So im not allowed to work for someone?

I work for Lee and Gary.

Yes they own the domain name because it is there company i am just an employee.