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weekly 08-15-2009 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16189582)
I never look over my shoulder. I know, though, that when an affiliate program gives open affiliate access to its members areas, the word does get around. It's not real affiliates who give content away. It's the ones who sign up as affiliates with no intention of ever promoting the site. :winkwink:
A common scam....I make sure they have history in my area before I accept them to promote my business.

weekly 08-15-2009 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16189593)
Have you ever hung out for any period of time on a free porn surfer forum? How do you think the biggest contributors get all the wonderful porn they provide for free.

They sign up as an affiliate and then post it all over the forum(s). This is, and has been, common practice for years. There was every some rough guide on how to get access I remember seeing 2 years ago.

Claim to be an affiliate. Get password. Download everything. Viola.

all to save 20 bucks. LOLOLOL....

Barefootsies 08-15-2009 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16189597)
all to save 20 bucks. LOLOLOL....
Agreed.

Funny the lengths people will go to just so they do not have to pay for porn.

Just like people trying to hack into your site for a week instead of just paying the $14.95. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me, but whatever. Guess everyone has their line they will not cross.

Some will not pay for porn. Just like some people, no matter how disgusted with this country, will not vote.

DonovanTrent 08-15-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16189597)
all to save 20 bucks. LOLOLOL....
Yes. All to save $20.

Nicky 08-15-2009 09:05 PM
It's worth exactley what you have to pay to get It.

DonovanTrent 08-15-2009 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16190091)
It's worth exactley what you have to pay to get It.
That's it, I'm repricing my paysites to $89.95 per week.

Nicky 08-15-2009 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16190128)
That's it, I'm repricing my paysites to $89.95 per week.
It ain't worth It :upsidedow

Oranges and apples :)

Barefootsies 08-15-2009 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16190152)
It ain't worth It :upsidedow

Oranges and apples :)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Forkbeard 08-16-2009 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16189558)
Nah, it's a toots who thinks he can promote any content with his traffic and be a success.
Hardly. You're being deliberately obtuse now.

Not "any" content -- you know as well as I do that every traffic source has to be matched to appropriate content. In your niche, that might well mean there's only one or two programs that are worth a damn; and I know of other such niches. (I don't know yours very well.) But for most niches, there's an array of choices. And if one of them is too big of a pain in the ass to deal with, well, any of the others will work nearly as well.

This is Porn 101 stuff that you obviously know. So I think you're down to just being argumentative in this thread.

weekly 08-16-2009 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by donovantrent (Post 16190128)
that's it, i'm repricing my paysites to $89.95 per week.
lol.......

DonovanTrent 08-16-2009 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16190152)
It ain't worth It :upsidedow

Oranges and apples :)
:1orglaugh Sarcasm... lost on the Swedes.

Barefootsies 08-16-2009 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16191235)
:1orglaugh Sarcasm... lost on the Swedes.

seanchai 08-16-2009 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16182723)
a sale is a sale, if the affiliate hadn't sent that sale, then the percentage earned by the sponsor is zero percent, so there is nothing wrong with the 50% arrangement :2 cents:
Not if that customer would have found the site eventually anyway, either through the site's own promotions or it's just well known.
This happens especially in smaller niches.

weekly 08-16-2009 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 16191243)
Not if that customer would have found the site eventually anyway, either through the site's own promotions or it's just well known.
This happens especially in smaller niches.
Niche sites can be cannibalized by affiliate traffic. Its a balancing act. On the other hand, it takes a special webmaster to be able to convert niche and understand where that traffic is and they are only good for your business if they are finding this traffic where you can't. Niche is a small, but profitable end of the biz.

Barefootsies 08-16-2009 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16191280)
it takes a special webmaster to be able to convert niche
Exactamundo.

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16191280)
and understand where that traffic is and they are only good for your business if they are finding this traffic where you can't.
Agreed. That is the benefit of an invite only program. You already know that they are a niche traffic source. Also that they will make some conversions on their traffic, and your content.

Let's face it. If they can't convert or sell it. It is a pointless partnership. It's better to match affiliates with programs where their shit can convert and minimize frustration and aggravation.

Most people in this industry are completely clueless when it comes to converting niche traffic (unless running niche sites), or even understanding it for that matter. I do not know how many people I have had hit me up for traffic deals and what volume like you would get from another mainstream porn niche.

It does not exist in volume, and, quality.

weekly 08-16-2009 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16191293)
Exactamundo.



Agreed. That is the benefit of an invite only program. You already know that they are a niche traffic source. Also that they will make some conversions on their traffic, and your content.

Let's face it. If they can't convert or sell it. It is a pointless partnership. It's better to match affiliates with programs where their shit can convert and minimize frustration and aggravation.

Most people in this industry are completely clueless when it comes to converting niche traffic (unless running niche sites), or even understanding it for that matter. I do not know how many people I have had hit me up for traffic deals and what volume like you would get from another mainstream porn niche.

It does not exist in volume, and, quality.
This is a situation where traffic becomes virtually worthless.

xxxjay 08-16-2009 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16182719)
A number of programs are moving their traffic generation in-house.

This reduces the importance of this industry's affiliate model and their position for the future. It also makes programs less dependent on paying the ransom traffic 'whales' are demanding, and have been, over the years.

Short answer,... it probably varies from program to program. Their importance is diminishing. Especially as more affiliates find it hard to make conversions and remain competitive in the 2009 market place.

:2 cents:
Our biggest account is our house account, always has been - it accounts for 40% or more of sales.

Nicky 08-16-2009 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16191235)
:1orglaugh Sarcasm... lost on the Swedes.
yep I'm incapable of It, all the posts on this board really proves It.

Or were you being sarcastic now? Argh

weekly 08-16-2009 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16192119)
Our biggest account is our house account, always has been - it accounts for 40% or more of sales.
That makes total sense to me. Do you think it is actually cheaper than affiliate marketing or is it a matter of control over your own business?

charlie3273 08-16-2009 02:48 PM
Well I am not sure how much value keyword slutty is but if I am not your affiliate then your program might not be seen. If the surfer punches in that word. It is a tuff industry . Big pps will kill your program though for sure. I am more than happy with 50/50 rev share.

xxxjay 08-16-2009 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16192191)
That makes total sense to me. Do you think it is actually cheaper than affiliate marketing or is it a matter of control over your own business?
Both. I am alwasy looking for new ways to expand the house traffic too.

Niktamer 08-16-2009 04:33 PM
interesting read.. keep the infos comming

weekly 08-16-2009 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie3273 (Post 16192324)
Well I am not sure how much value keyword slutty is but if I am not your affiliate then your program might not be seen. If the surfer punches in that word. It is a tuff industry . Big pps will kill your program though for sure. I am more than happy with 50/50 rev share.
Its a word....

Agent 488 08-16-2009 06:09 PM
everyone here is just trying to shore up their own preconceptions here - there is no discussion let alone learning ...

weekly 08-16-2009 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16192974)
everyone here is just trying to shore up their own preconceptions here - there is no discussion let alone learning ...
I spose you are not paying attention then.

Barefootsies 08-16-2009 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16193011)
I spose you are not paying attention then.
:2 cents:

weekly 08-16-2009 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16193191)
:2 cents:
Personally, I have learned a bunch....more than most threads here. I am impressed. The piss has been pretty lame and minimal.

Barefootsies 08-16-2009 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16193348)
Personally, I have learned a bunch....more than most threads here. I am impressed. The piss has been pretty lame and minimal.
Agreed.

Nice to see an occasional business thread make it through and stay on point.

:winkwink:

weekly 08-17-2009 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16193362)
Agreed.

Nice to see an occasional business thread make it through and stay on point.

:winkwink:

It could be we have run out of business people...lol


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