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OneHungLo 09-11-2010 02:14 AM

100 tubes turned darksided

http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/data/527/darksided.jpg

miss_bellabellini 09-11-2010 02:21 AM

They might go to the dark side, but I still reported them:) Do they really expect people not to notice these things? I check my stats and I talk to fans. Just spend a few more minutes on marketing & they would probably be more successful in the long run.

trannysphere 09-11-2010 03:19 AM

it doesnt look like you!

adult-help 09-11-2010 03:49 AM

haha, I saw this thread and didnt realize it was from 2009: everyone congratulating him while the general consent here is that tube sites killed the adult biz and the people who own them "should be hanged" for ruining it all..how the times change...

Paul Markham 09-11-2010 05:36 AM

This industry needs more Tubes sites giving out more free content!!

I see lots of full length scenes on your site, well done.

No wonder this business is going to the shitter.

Paul Markham 09-11-2010 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 17491329)
haha, I saw this thread and didnt realize it was from 2009: everyone congratulating him while the general consent here is that tube sites killed the adult biz and the people who own them "should be hanged" for ruining it all..how the times change...

I missed it as well until I saw your post, after I had posted my previous one. Was I the only person who saw the problem?

This thread illustrates why this industry is going from great to good to fair to bad to worse and now to today. All the bros slapping him on the back for giving surfers 1,000s of reasons not to buy memberships. :upsidedow :upsidedow

Klen 09-11-2010 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17491464)
This industry needs more Tubes sites giving out more free content!!

I see lots of full length scenes on your site, well done.

No wonder this business is going to the shitter.

No problem,give me your entire content for 5$ and i will make one :1orglaugh

fris 09-11-2010 05:55 AM

looks like they lost traffic, current alexa 555

Mutt 09-11-2010 06:45 AM

so when he originally posted this thread 4tube was 100% legal and now it isn't?

i see 20+ minute videos on there - doesn't mean they aren't legit though, most content guys will sell to tube sites out of desperation and brokers - well a broker just needs a sale - so they will turn a blind eye to customers who are going to break the usage terms of the license.

nice site, it it's legit, congrats.

V_RocKs 09-11-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17491650)
so when he originally posted this thread 4tube was 100% legal and now it isn't?

i see 20+ minute videos on there - doesn't mean they aren't legit though, most content guys will sell to tube sites out of desperation and brokers - well a broker just needs a sale - so they will turn a blind eye to customers who are going to break the usage terms of the license.

nice site, it it's legit, congrats.

He addressed that with the fact that a sponsor furnished the videos to him with full knowledge and he furnishes to them a ton of sales so everyone is happy.

As for Miss Bella Bellini... That totally sucks. Why fuck up her business model? You might be legal, but your ethics suck. Which makes it a case of the - what is the point?

Semi-Retired-Dave 09-11-2010 05:32 PM

That's great,
Congrats.

RogerV 09-11-2010 07:09 PM

congrats. just be careful when you become #1 the mob will turn on you ;)

famous 09-11-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss_bellabellini (Post 17491199)
Legal tube right Steve?

Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?

Surfers will join my site and probably charge back since I shoot fetish, femdom, and softcore content. They will not get the hardcore content they are expecting coming from your site.

Or they will join your premium tube membership site expecting to see hardcore videos of me inside and find nothing of the sort.

I've had so many guys contact me on twitter & email asking me about these videos. It takes about 3 seconds to tell them what is going on because you chose a model that doesn't look like me at all. So your marketing plan wasn't very well thought out.

I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response. But I've contacted a few different people about it now because no one likes charge backs. Why deceive the consumer when there are enough hardcore models out there to market anyway?

I suggest changing your links and renaming the model because the model in these videos is obviously not me.

Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up :) But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

topsiteking 09-11-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous (Post 17493724)
Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up :) But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

And you should try readying next time.
She said:
"I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response."

Alprazolam 09-11-2010 07:49 PM

fyi your tube site isn't legal unless you can show the 2257 for this
http://www.4tube.com/videos/59512/ti...-blowjob-scene
read on her blog and other places that she did not sell this to you, so it's illegal.

Tempest 09-11-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss_bellabellini (Post 17491199)
Legal tube right Steve?

Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?

Surfers will join my site and probably charge back since I shoot fetish, femdom, and softcore content. They will not get the hardcore content they are expecting coming from your site.

Or they will join your premium tube membership site expecting to see hardcore videos of me inside and find nothing of the sort.

I've had so many guys contact me on twitter & email asking me about these videos. It takes about 3 seconds to tell them what is going on because you chose a model that doesn't look like me at all. So your marketing plan wasn't very well thought out.

I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response. But I've contacted a few different people about it now because no one likes charge backs. Why deceive the consumer when there are enough hardcore models out there to market anyway?

I suggest changing your links and renaming the model because the model in these videos is obviously not me.

The models are probably named "Bella", at least one of them is. When adding movies, it's usually not possible to see what the model looks like that you would pick off a huge list. Usually a person just goes by memory.

Instead of bitching about it, contact them and give them some clips that will show up on that page instead of the others so you get more promotion and traffic.

V_RocKs 09-11-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous (Post 17493724)
Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up :) But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

She did contact him and others that work with/for him and got no replies.

I guess you just can't read for shit.

V_RocKs 09-11-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17493757)
fyi your tube site isn't legal unless you can show the 2257 for this
http://www.4tube.com/videos/59512/ti...-blowjob-scene
read on her blog and other places that she did not sell this to you, so it's illegal.

Just because she tells people she didn't agree to it doesn't mean she didn't receive a nifty 500,000 payment right when she needed one.

famous 09-11-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17493947)
She did contact him and others that work with/for him and got no replies.

I guess you just can't read for shit.

odd i never had any issue reaching Steve. You just gotta be in our shoes. Pornstar sites can be a royal pain. Girls switching programs week after week then getting hate mail beucase I can't keep up with the 5 differnt programs shes been with this year. It just gets old and tiresome. These girls think we can stop what we are doing to update thier links but unfortuenly in 2010 I dont know about you but I run bare bones and only have a few people now to help me out. Not like 2008 when I had someone do nothing but update links :)

famous 09-11-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17493770)
The models are probably named "Bella"

and you sir are 100% correct. I am sure his back in is like mine. You dump in the link to the clips it matches girls to title. Sometimes shit goes wrong :) When you have 200k links on a site its tuff to go threw them one at a time to see if they match the correct girl. 95% are typically correct but then every blew moon you get a curve ball. Thats why me personally I will not list a girl with a single name. Stops shit like that from happening.

Brad Mitchell 09-11-2010 10:40 PM

Congrats on your success Steve! Tremendous accomplishment.

Brad

Gals4free 09-15-2010 01:52 AM

Ok, just caught on to this thread getting bumped now, and thanks to Famous for already shedding some light on the situation.

I don't particularly love the way you handled this Bella. You said you tried contacting with us for ages, while the first email I find back is dated September 11th 2010.

----
Hi Steve,

I noticed you sent a sale today to my site. Thanks for that:) But I just wanted to ask how gals4free.net is affiliated with 4tube.com? 4tube.com is using my name and link to my site on a bunch of hardcore video clips that clearly aren't me. I'm a Dominatrix & shoot fetish & softcore content so members who sign up expecting hardcore content won't retain.

Anyway I just wanted some clarification because I've had people mention the video son 4tube.com for awhile now. If you'd like some promo videos of me I can always provide some.

Let me know:)

Thanks,

Bella Bellini
----

This was then straight away passed onto the person that reviews these issues, and I told him to get in touch with you to get some promo videos like you mentioned in your email. He is on holiday today, so I'm unsure if he has already contacted you about that.

Anyway, obviously what happened was that when a site has over 100.000 clips, some can get categorized wrong. Some video where the girl was named Bella from pornpros.com ended up in your section on 4tube.. mistakes happen.. So this "Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?" is all a bit of an overstatement :thumbsup

If you haven't heard from jeremy already regarding the clips, you will soon when he returns from holiday.

Steve

Screwed Up 09-15-2010 02:20 AM

I tried submitting to you guys.

Never got listed.


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