everyone can get traffic with tube site. you don't need brain for that.

Try it Emma, it's harder then you might think !
Good work Steve, I hope our (legal) tube sites will reach those numbers some time...

Pfff... I could get mz site into the top 100 if I bought traffic.
Stop buying traffic and your stats will drop.

:upsidedow

True true, everybody can buy traffic, but monetizing that traffic is the key to succes, nobody can meantain buying traffic for a long period without converting it into sales/$.

Words of wisdom right there Mikey! :winkwink:

While its better than ripping-off full videos from member areas, it is still to much free porn.

What are you tube owners going to do when everyone has a legal tube site with 3 minute videos?

The exact same thing the TGP guys did when every TGP had galleries with 10 pics.. they increased the content requirement to 15 pics..

We'll start seeing legal tube sites with 10 minute videos, etc. etc.

Its been evolving this way the whole time and conversion ratios have without a doubt rotted horribly because of it.

Nobody here can tell me that you convert better now than you did 5 years ago using the same traffic base.

The evolution of the internet porn business model is along a bad route.. if this were a company and we were executives the shareholders would of hung us a long time ago

you need trade script then

Does it really matter how he get traffic?Even if you concentrate fully to seo traffic you will still need to spend tons of money to gain it.

The man got a point :2 cents:

gratz! I'm surprised we don't get more tube submissions though...

You guys accept tube submissions? Ie you linking to a video on 4tube.com would be accepted? If so, we need to talk! :thumbsup

Do you post only pornstar videos.. how about softcore, nn, fetish vids?

Congrats Steve. Your hard work is definitely paying off:)

At the moment its just pornstar videos. If we cant link the video to a girl in our database we can't add it for instance. We will soon be launching a more "general" site... stay tuned :)

Steve,

Congrats! I hit you up on ICQ, lets discuss getting you more content to help build traffic to the site.

we never had any rules forbidding tube movies... So I don't see why we wouldn't list it. Funny thing is that I think most people assumed we didn't list it. It's a killer in traffic though, I hope things are up for that.

Yea our servers can take a punch :) Who do i hit up for this? cybercat?

Legal tube right Steve?

Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?

Surfers will join my site and probably charge back since I shoot fetish, femdom, and softcore content. They will not get the hardcore content they are expecting coming from your site.

Or they will join your premium tube membership site expecting to see hardcore videos of me inside and find nothing of the sort.

I've had so many guys contact me on twitter & email asking me about these videos. It takes about 3 seconds to tell them what is going on because you chose a model that doesn't look like me at all. So your marketing plan wasn't very well thought out.

I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response. But I've contacted a few different people about it now because no one likes charge backs. Why deceive the consumer when there are enough hardcore models out there to market anyway?

I suggest changing your links and renaming the model because the model in these videos is obviously not me.

100 tubes turned darksided

http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/data/527/darksided.jpg

They might go to the dark side, but I still reported them:) Do they really expect people not to notice these things? I check my stats and I talk to fans. Just spend a few more minutes on marketing & they would probably be more successful in the long run.

it doesnt look like you!

haha, I saw this thread and didnt realize it was from 2009: everyone congratulating him while the general consent here is that tube sites killed the adult biz and the people who own them "should be hanged" for ruining it all..how the times change...

This industry needs more Tubes sites giving out more free content!!

I see lots of full length scenes on your site, well done.

No wonder this business is going to the shitter.

I missed it as well until I saw your post, after I had posted my previous one. Was I the only person who saw the problem?

This thread illustrates why this industry is going from great to good to fair to bad to worse and now to today. All the bros slapping him on the back for giving surfers 1,000s of reasons not to buy memberships. :upsidedow :upsidedow

No problem,give me your entire content for 5$ and i will make one :1orglaugh

looks like they lost traffic, current alexa 555

so when he originally posted this thread 4tube was 100% legal and now it isn't?

i see 20+ minute videos on there - doesn't mean they aren't legit though, most content guys will sell to tube sites out of desperation and brokers - well a broker just needs a sale - so they will turn a blind eye to customers who are going to break the usage terms of the license.

nice site, it it's legit, congrats.

He addressed that with the fact that a sponsor furnished the videos to him with full knowledge and he furnishes to them a ton of sales so everyone is happy.

As for Miss Bella Bellini... That totally sucks. Why fuck up her business model? You might be legal, but your ethics suck. Which makes it a case of the - what is the point?

That's great,
Congrats.

congrats. just be careful when you become #1 the mob will turn on you ;)

Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up :) But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

And you should try readying next time.
She said:
"I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response."

fyi your tube site isn't legal unless you can show the 2257 for this
http://www.4tube.com/videos/59512/ti...-blowjob-scene
read on her blog and other places that she did not sell this to you, so it's illegal.

The models are probably named "Bella", at least one of them is. When adding movies, it's usually not possible to see what the model looks like that you would pick off a huge list. Usually a person just goes by memory.

Instead of bitching about it, contact them and give them some clips that will show up on that page instead of the others so you get more promotion and traffic.

She did contact him and others that work with/for him and got no replies.

I guess you just can't read for shit.

Just because she tells people she didn't agree to it doesn't mean she didn't receive a nifty 500,000 payment right when she needed one.

odd i never had any issue reaching Steve. You just gotta be in our shoes. Pornstar sites can be a royal pain. Girls switching programs week after week then getting hate mail beucase I can't keep up with the 5 differnt programs shes been with this year. It just gets old and tiresome. These girls think we can stop what we are doing to update thier links but unfortuenly in 2010 I dont know about you but I run bare bones and only have a few people now to help me out. Not like 2008 when I had someone do nothing but update links :)

and you sir are 100% correct. I am sure his back in is like mine. You dump in the link to the clips it matches girls to title. Sometimes shit goes wrong :) When you have 200k links on a site its tuff to go threw them one at a time to see if they match the correct girl. 95% are typically correct but then every blew moon you get a curve ball. Thats why me personally I will not list a girl with a single name. Stops shit like that from happening.