Originally Posted by wargames (Post 16275337)

This industry constantly amazes me :Oh crap

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16277011)

I?ve read several posts asking how Francis could scam a ?really? big company in our biz. It is simple. You recruit one of the top sales people on the inside to champion your deal and give them a kick back from the cash you scam. It looks like at least one of the companies on Francis? hit list got suckered this way. So, if you want some ?easy cash? and work for an employer that you secretly hate, just give Francis a call and cut a deal with him to screw your company. Just have your bags packed in case you are found out and act quickly while Francis is still around.

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn (Post 16275783)

Referring to the OP.

This happens every single fucking day in mainstream. Many "new media" companies do exactly this - buy chunks of junk traffic to show OMG HUGE RESULTS to suits from big corporations.

Every. Single. Day.

And I bet that this happens a lot in porn, too. But it's incredibly hard to prove.

So my question is, how can you prove everything you've said?

I have recently won a case in court similar to this one, but with a lot of hard-on proof, and it was still difficult to prove to the judge.

And again, I repeat myself that buying lots of junk traffic to improve Alexa is nothing new, nor is keeping advertisers happy by occasionally redirecting higher quality traffic.

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16276371)

Dayumn , you're good DWB, here is your prize:thumbsup

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...911/z02497.jpg

Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA (Post 16276034)

I met the guy at the Miami show and smelled a scandal within minutes. The site looks like it runs on a $300 script.

Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA (Post 16276034)

I met the guy at the Miami show and smelled a scandal within minutes. The site looks like it runs on a $300 script. The movie rights for this story is worth more than the advertising you could buy on the site.

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 16277389)

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...f-portrait.jpg


This rouse is so egregious, even Bernie can't believe it!

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 16277560)

The movie rights to the iPorn story are worth way more than company.

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16277727)

Thats what i was thinking. this story gets better and better.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1o rglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1o rglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 16276688)

How come I never get to have sex with bikini models at Internext? It's my big nose, isn't it?

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 16274802)

PS I wil lbet my bottom dollar the Wizard is Mike Weiss.
Who else would have that much inside info

And it's great timing with his resignation being today don't ya think?

just sayin'...

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 16276287)

A couple of weeks ago though, I received a phone call from a sales rep who told me he worked for iPorn. He was extremely bad at his job. I don't know who I felt more badly for: Him, or whoever his boss was. He was terrible.

He was offering me advertising on iPorn for I forget howmuch. $5000 I think. When I asked him what kind of value I was getting for my money though, he could not answer me. What are the stats? How many views will I get? Is this Pay Per Click? Exactly what are you trying to sell me? He had no idea.

So then I asked him if I could test his traffic. "Let's put an affiliate code up for a couple of days - paid if you want - so that you and I can test the traffic together to see if we can convert it. If so, I'll buy in".

To me it seemed like a perfect offer. I did not suggest that his traffic would not covert, instead, I said "Let's see if WE can Convert YOUR traffic". (I was careful to say it exactly this way).

He refused, and instead kept falling back on who the other advertisers were. "Look we have Video Secrets up there! We've got to be good! Why would they advertise with us if we weren't good?" I tried to explain to him that this was exactly the wrong kind of sales pitch to toss around.

I went on to explain that we will gladly pay for advertising as long as we can convert it and make money with it. I told him we did the same with Wildline and spend $30k a year with those guys and we have been their FAVORITE client for the past 3 years already (Hi Johnny!)

It really wasn't his day. I was READY to spend money. I was in a GOOD MOOD, ready to try out a new source of traffic, etc etc. Francis doesn't have the best reputation in the industry but then again so what we've all had shit thrown around at one time or another. If the numbers made sense, I was ready to rock. But nope. This poor guy just kept digging his hole ever deeper. He was the worst salesman I had ever talked to.

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16276371)

Dayumn , you're good DWB, here is your prize:thumbsup

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...911/z02497.jpg

Originally Posted by D-Money (Post 16278219)

Don't forget the $8,000 contract in post cream pied model shoots!

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278399)

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278399)

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278399)

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16278420)

ok, and who's the one who fucked over his own company by accepting the bribe?

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16278423)

wonder if its in the list above ?:winkwink:

Originally Posted by $tandaman (Post 16278686)

I guess Mike Weiss got what he deserved. Karma is a bitch.

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278524)

no..not in that list, but I thnk he has plenty of problems of his own with his boss right now and does not need any public exposure here.

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278720)

Francis is the one that has to deal with Karma...not Mike. And it's that 'insider' at the Company that Francis fucked over is the one that has to deal with his own boss...not Mike.

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 16277560)

The movie rights to the iPorn story are worth way more than company.

Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA (Post 16276034)

I met the guy at the Miami show and smelled a scandal within minutes. The site looks like it runs on a $300 script. The movie rights for this story is worth more than the advertising you could buy on the site.

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16276703)

Really? So the same scam reackaged and polished up amazes you? Eyes Wide Open man.... seriously. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278399)

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16279164)

I?ve been told that the CFO at iPorn was working overtime yesterday shredding document after document. SEC?are you listening?

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16279164)

I?ve been told that the CFO at iPorn was working overtime yesterday shredding document after document. SEC?are you listening?

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 16279249)

I know Francis, and one thing is for sure; he is going to claim it's not his fault, and blame everything on someone else.