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ThumbLord 09-04-2009 04:35 PM

the list is not that amazing to be honest.
I even do not feel sorry for them to be frank

PantiesDropped 09-04-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuki (Post 16274757)
Anyone on here have any direct personal experience with them?

I had their brand new sales rep contact me about 5 times in 3 days. He was selling adspace, I had to school him on a bunch of things. From what does SEM stand for B2B. At one point during the conversation I said, "Our website is for adult webmaster/affiliates/blogger etc, you know B2B. There's not much ROI advertising with you guys" He goes to say, "Well we're a business, we have a business license and-all and you're a business; so this would be a business to business deal"

I'm not a genius here, nor am I some well know person in the industry. However, after chatting with him I felt like GOD-all-mighty and a freaking genius!!! Must be really hard times if iPorn can't take the time to educate their sale team.

epitome 09-04-2009 04:50 PM

Too bad camgirls spent $350k on camgirls.com ... in a few months he probably could have bought iporn.com for half of that. If he can make a billion off of the short name camgirls.com, he could make a trillion off the short name of iporn.com! Someone told me that you can make an extra hundred million dollars for ever letter you shave off a domain. Is that true?

Wizard21 09-04-2009 06:15 PM

The Player
 
This reminds me of a famous line in Robert Altman's movie ?The Player.? ?In Hollywood, all rumors are true.?

Mohawk Steve 09-04-2009 07:02 PM

Francis have you up in the G5 playa. Big dick playaaaaa

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...oenigplaya.jpg

G5 playaaaaa

JustDaveXxx 09-04-2009 07:13 PM

Got my popcorn. This is a great read. Keep up the good work you GFY sleuths. lol

MaDalton 09-04-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 16279671)
Francis have you up in the G5 playa. Big dick playaaaaa

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...oenigplaya.jpg

G5 playaaaaa

ahahaha - just finished that movie an hour ago :thumbsup

Wizard21 09-04-2009 07:55 PM

Ripped From The Headlines?.
 
This thread has it all so far?sex?greed?drugs. All we need is a little rock n roll. Music maestro!

JFK 09-04-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16279789)
This thread has it all so far…sex…greed…drugs. All we need is a little rock n roll. Music maestro!

lets hear "Money":thumbsup
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...911/z02497.jpg

pornlaw 09-04-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 16279671)
Francis have you up in the G5 playa. Big dick playaaaaa

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...oenigplaya.jpg

G5 playaaaaa

Thats too funny.... Nice work.

Wizard21 09-04-2009 11:01 PM

more to post over the weekend....stay tuned!

epitome 09-04-2009 11:33 PM

This. Thread. Delivers.

Who needs TV when they have GFY?

JimmiDean 09-05-2009 03:46 AM

Buuuumparoonoo

http://coolweirdstuff.com/wp-content...17-300x240.jpg

Wizard21 09-05-2009 10:33 AM

Bumper Sticker Sighting
 
seems appropriate here:

"In a Time of Universal Deceit TELLING THE TRUTH IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"

Tjeezers 09-05-2009 11:08 AM

wanna get fucked, go work in the adult industry

QuaWee 09-05-2009 02:34 PM

Who were the brokers?

Agent 488 09-05-2009 02:36 PM

sounds like the business plan of thousands of mainstream internet business actually.

pr0 09-05-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 16278205)
Think I was contacted by the same rep lol. I offered the same deal, lets try this out on an affiliate basis for a week if it works out we'll buy. Of course there was no way they would do that

I've never met someone straight selling traffic that was willing to send traffic on an "affiliate basis".

It seems to me their business model is to only sell traffic. Period. No matter who it is.

I'm not going to say that all traffic brokers are bull shit.....But i think they know they will always make more $ selling it directly to you, period.

If it worked the other way, why would anyone sell ad spots at all? Why not send it as an affiliate & make top dollar every time....i dunno :helpme

baddog 09-05-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278524)
no..not in that list, but I thnk he has plenty of problems of his own with his boss right now and does not need any public exposure here.

Yeah, but if he did it to one guy he would most certainly do it to another. I know you wouldn't want that on your conscience. :)

Wizard21 09-05-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16282400)
I've never met someone straight selling traffic that was willing to send traffic on an "affiliate basis".

In the case of the iPorn scam, it was not the traffic brokers sending traffic directly to the advertisers and affiliate banners, they were sending it to a n iPorn "rotation landing page" that Francis had one of the techs create with a script that would then forward it to the advertisers. The advertisers that were screaming the loudest about not getting enough hits would get multiple rotations.

It is hard to imagine that any of the traffic brokers in the biz would be willing participants in this fraud.

Wizard21 09-05-2009 05:27 PM

When good employees go bad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16282494)
Yeah, but if he did it to one guy he would most certainly do it to another. I know you wouldn't want that on your conscience. :)

Very true. If an employee is going to sell you out for one bribe, then its a high probability that he's done it before and willing to do it again. Rest assurred, the company was told which employee sold them out and it will be up to them if they take any action. If it was my company, just firing the bastard would not be nearly enough punishment.

JFK 09-05-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16282775)
Very true. If an employee is going to sell you out for one bribe, then its a high probability that he's done it before and willing to do it again. Rest assurred, the company was told which employee sold them out and it will be up to them if they take any action. If it was my company, just firing the bastard would not be nearly enough punishment.

just firing the bastard would not be nearly enough punishment.[/QUOTE] Total agreement:thumbsup

fatfoo 09-05-2009 08:05 PM

he is telling advertisers that iPorn has 500,000 unique users per day (the real number is 8K/day)

- That's not good! what a fraud.

Anthony 09-06-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16279702)
Got my popcorn. This is a great read. Keep up the good work you GFY sleuths. lol

You gotta tell the breakfast story. That alone was enough to make me go, WTF? You guys are Ballers?

mule 09-06-2009 01:51 AM

LOL I dunno what's funnier: people STILL doing business with Francis Koenig, or people crying about being ripped off by him. It's like sitting on a snake and being surprised when you get your ass bitten.

JimmiDean 09-06-2009 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16283670)
You gotta tell the breakfast story. That alone was enough to make me go, WTF? You guys are Ballers?

Oh please do tell

shimmy2 09-06-2009 06:30 AM

ive only been to about 6 conventions so far but im beginning to notice a pattern on summer internext event sponsors. does something like this happen every year

Wizard21 09-06-2009 11:58 AM

Hard to Blame the Salespeople
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abby-SiN20 (Post 16279351)
I had their brand new sales rep contact me about 5 times in 3 days. He was selling adspace, I had to school him on a bunch of things....Must be really hard times if iPorn can't take the time to educate their sale team.

With the exception of iPorn's new VP Sales hired in June, these days Francis purposely hires sales people that are not from the adult industry. Obviously anyone from the industry would catch onto this scam early on and refuse to participate. In fact, all the earlier industry people that worked at AdultVest and iPorn have 'left the building' never to return. Even the new non-industry sales people leave once they truly understand what is going on. Francis purposely keeps them in the dark so he can feed lies to them.

It is difficult to train someone when the foundation of your sales efforts are based on a scam. But Francis does incent his salespeople that reach his scam quota with promises of free trips "around the world" or to "Berlin" or "Amsterdam" or "Miami." Unfortunatley for the salespeople -- who are as much victims as the advertisers they sell to -- the only ones taking trips at iPorn these days are Francis, his new VP Sales and his new CFO (who has learned how to do the books the Koenig way).

At the very least, he should send postcards to the advertisers and investors thanking them for his trips.

JustDaveXxx 09-06-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16283670)
You gotta tell the breakfast story. That alone was enough to make me go, WTF? You guys are Ballers?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That was very funny!!!


About 12 or so of us are at the breakfast spot inside the hard rock. Me, Anthony and Porno Dan were the only non IPORN employees there. Then the bill comes. lol


Anthony goes to pull out his wallet and i push it down and tell him to watch. Everyone there including Francis and all of his employees including his vice president are scrambling to grab there wallets. Porno Dan left to shoot a scene ten minutes earlier. Me and Anthony are laughing at all of these guys pulling out ones, fives and quarters.


Me and Anthony are pissing on ourselves, because this went on for 10+ minutes. Meanwhile i already slipped the waitress $200 bucks to pay the bill.


Watching all of these IPORN people pull out pocket lint and pocket change because the baller boss was too cheap to take care of his employees was too funny!! Was waiting for Francis to do the right thing, because he was supposedly the head Baller, never happened. Was so entertaining, it was worth the $200.:2 cents:

JFK 09-06-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16285521)
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That was very funny!!!


About 12 or so of us are at the breakfast spot inside the hard rock. Me, Anthony and Porno Dan were the only non IPORN employees there. Then the bill comes. lol


Anthony goes to pull out his wallet and i push it down and tell him to watch. Everyone there including Francis and all of his employees including his vice president are scrambling to grab there wallets. Porno Dan left to shoot a scene ten minutes earlier. Me and Anthony are laughing at all of these guys pulling out ones, fives and quarters.


Me and Anthony are pissing on ourselves, because this went on for 10+ minutes. Meanwhile i already slipped the waitress $200 bucks to pay the bill.


Watching all of these IPORN people pull out pocket lint and pocket change because the baller boss was too cheap to take care of his employees was too funny!! Was waiting for Francis to do the right thing, because he was supposedly the head Baller, never happened. Was so entertaining, it was worth the $200.:2 cents:

interesting:2 cents:

JFK 09-06-2009 02:14 PM

150 ballers:pimp
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...911/z02497.jpg

Don Pueblo 09-06-2009 02:29 PM

omg this is so funny on so many levels.

Hank_Heartland 09-06-2009 02:33 PM

More...More...More...pls:helpme

HorseShit 09-06-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 16285590)
More...More...More...pls:helpme

this is like as the world turns :1orglaugh

Tjeezers 09-06-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE (Post 16276027)
:2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizard21 (Post 16278399)
Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

The bigger the name, the riskier the game

Wizard21 09-06-2009 06:46 PM

so⋅ci⋅o⋅path  [soh-see-uh-path]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 16285590)
More...More...More...pls:helpme

All we need now is the picture.....

so⋅ci⋅o⋅path  [soh-see-uh-path] noun. Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal with a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.

Porno Dan 09-06-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iscari0t (Post 16279305)
True, but that only goes so far if people have copies of email.


Some truly priceless emails, if they exist....................hmmmmmmm

Iscari0t 09-08-2009 06:37 AM

Anyone tell Kasey about this yet?

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/839197-francis-koenig-adultvest-iporn-drama-worth-sharing.html

It would be neat to hear her take, now that all this has come out.

The Duck 09-08-2009 07:58 AM

What did I miss here.

PastorSinAlot 09-08-2009 09:11 AM

i porn is a adultvideoscript full of buggs, clip-share people own the script. I ran Freakytube off a older version before i sold it. for the price its holding up pretty well. Man some of these people look like the same real estate crooks I use to deal with


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