not laughing at all. i know it's tough out there, try to change things up a bit, see what works and attack like a heat seeking missle.

Great to see a non drama thread having legs :thumbsup:thumbsup

pathfinder, seriously, give it a rest. 100 percent retired. lol. weren't you going to kill yourself when the pain got too bad (or something along those lines) a month ago? do us all a favor.

you do not have a single friend here. you've never met anyone here in person, and no one gives a shit about you. you are an idiot, and a pathetic attempt at threadjacking/trolling (the younger dudes are much better). i would feel bad for you, if you weren't such a anti-social, sociopath.

sigh. my last response to you in this thread. have another drink.

that's pretty fucking funny, if you're not pulling my leg.

thanks... i'm pretty sure yours is quite a bit more interesting :)

Speaking of which - did you/your guys ever do a show or an event?

sorry if i brought up something you didn't want to talk about

i lived there for 3 years, i'm into snowboarding, and with the internet you can bascially go anywhere. moved, got an office, and set up.

yeah, it sucks. i had to pay it for the rest of my internet business life. pretty major fuck over. lost quite a bit of money over it. heh, don't really like talking about it lol. in the end, you live in a country like Canada, you deal with the bullshit, in the end, no one gets out alive.

dude, i have been going through all of this shit, just fire me a facebook message if you need any info...

yeah, we went to internext 2001.

Wish I hammered the tgps and mgps back then

Just out of curiosity, I see that your main site domain (i think) seems dead. With all of the thousands of old gallery links out there, why not at least have the domain redirecting to an affiliate link within that niche?

You gave me some excellent advice a long time back which has made me a lot of money over the years. :)

Enjoy your retirement. :glugglug

So what kinds of investments and areas are you into now?

Nice read mate thanks for sharing:)

lol nice theory, but no. Still with cherrylula after more than a decade, married for over 3 years now. :)

Your story adds a whole new meaning to the phrase "go quietly"


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Everyone who had a paysite mailed or did shitty things with joins back then. Thats basically what i was talking about. I wasn't talking about you specifically but just in general. If you ran a tight clean ship and were that successful, awesome. Its a very rare thing.

His was a rare story indeed - if you joined his site, you'd see that you never got fucked, your cancel was respected, your info was not sold/leased to anyone else. He had a clean site and clean practices. The thing is - the bigger programs were already too far into the shadier processes and used to the income that came from it to change. Just goes to show though that even in a world of rich 'shady' people - one clean person could still make it and make it big. Also, if my memory serves (and quiet can correct me on this) - I don't think he had many sites - I think he only had one (perhaps 2 but this wasn't some program with 20-100 paysites).

quiet - the question I have is, by the time iBill died, you could have had so many other billing options put into place, why did you choose to just let it die with it? **Over the course of a few months, you could have had your users 'choosing' to switch over to the new biller, right?**

Hey Quiet. I've always been a huge fan of yours. Not many people do it the way you did it.

You came in.
Did it 100% clean.
Made your money
Got out.

There are so few that do it like that. You came in and made it on your terms and left on your terms. I've always had huge respect for you. Great post and great answers :)

I also have to say thanks for your posts back in the day. They were always a huge motivation. They re-enforced the idea that a paysite that is built on delivering a quality product and treating the customer the right way is viable in this industry. Back before visa regulations were imposed there were VERY few companies that had the balls to do that. Thanks to guys like you, Karups and ATK we followed a business model that suited us well and helped us really kick ass. Thanks!

Still enjoying this thread :glugglug

Every time I have a beer at Dusty's I tell my friends about this guy that posts on this message board...

Awsome thread.

"quiet", must be one of the few old timers and GFY members that is highly looked up for so many different reasons.

Now the real question is, do you still have a 911T? j/k lol

Very inspirational thread. You seem cool and down to earth. Congrats on your well deserved success.

Were you ever audited (aside from your GST issue)?

I imagine making that kind of money would raise some flags for Revenue Canada. If so how did it go?

The thing I always admired about Quiet was that in spite of all his success and growing income, and this goes right back even to his early years, he never allowed it to go to his head, never came on the boards and lorded it over anyone, and never let it turn him into an arrogant elitist prick like it did a lot of others from that time. He's always posted the same way as the same guy.

That's a rare thing in any business but especially this one.

Quiet, I've always wondered how come you never left Canada for a sunny and tax free destination to spend 6 months of your life in and then snowboard the Alps, Andes or Rockies the other 6. Friends, family, comfort? You probably financed half of the Olympics cost on your own...

If you don't want to answer publicly email me eman (at) perfectgonzo.com

quiet did it 100% clean unlike some people - i'll admit though you did a nice job raping Dion the guido from Redlight District to build up bank to start a legitimate program.

Yo Quiet, did you ever buy that loft in Montreal? I want that place.

Nice thread indeed :)

Great thread always good to hear a success story :thumbsup

Good luck with your retirement and all the best.

hell no. not even close lol. lots of people making FAAAAAAARRRRRR more than me. check out cyberage dave's garage lol. now that's money.

hehe, cheers girl. i have just never had (or wanted) to fuck people over. it was easy (well, maybe not exactly easy)... to produce a quality product, and push the fuck out of it. crank it out as far as it would go. that was the basic philosophy behine UWS. i had 3 paysites over the 10 years, but really, the only one that matters was UWS. ultrawired.com forwarded to UWS by around 2000.

awesome. can you elaborate at all?

cheers man. we need to hook up for a beer or glass of wine at some point.

jesus, just fire me an email a couple of days before you do dgrigat at]]]] gmail.com

i'll buy you a drink :) i currently live 100 feet away from Dusty's lol.

nope. i have a great accountant, as well as a couple lawyers.

the gst thing though, NOT FUN.

cheers buddy. you are offically in the bro club ;)

quiet, you are still around :)

no problem man, don't mind answering in public (and i think this is someone i might know on a personal level hehe). i love Canada, and everything it has to offer. i am addicted to downhill biking, and snowboarding, and there really is nowhere esle in the world that offers both, world class. that is pretty much the only thing holding me in Canada.i love traveling, and eave the western hemisphere every year for a min of 3 months, max of 6 months.

[email protected]

i hit up Argentina every summer (our summer) to snowboard for a month in their winter. awesome shit.

What about my question about the paysite price? :)

I'm the guy that submitted your gallery to thehun and got you listed

......please transfer half your assets and estates to my swiss bank account asap!!!!

:P

Success stories are nice, congrats on succeeding in this business man! Oh, come back to Bk ;)

good story

great tale quiet. congrats fellow canuck!

I've seen the pics :winkwink: I usually stay at First Tracks Lodge, although this year I'll probably go to Colorado and skip the olympic frenzy. Sucks because it'll be the first time I won't hit whistler in about 14 seasons.

The single and only reason I miss living in Canada :(

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quiet - the question I have is, by the time iBill died, you could have had so many other billing options put into place, why did you choose to just let it die with it? **Over the course of a few months, you could have had your users 'choosing' to switch over to the new biller, right?**[/QUOTE]

missed this. basically, i was burnt out (i pretty much missed all of my 20's working in my office at several computers, 13-14 hours a day, for years and years), so it a good excuse to just close shop. yeah, i could have made it go on, but just didn't feel the motivation, and wanted to finally start really traveling and getting myself back into shape. having time to read an actual book. things like that :)

shit, what was the question? i went from 6.95, to 8.95, to 12.95, and finally to 18.95, that is the price that made the best profit for us, and was the one we used during the big-time 5 years area.

hell yeah, BK is a given. it's so hard to hook up with you! hey, are you on my facebook? if not, add me dgrigat [at]] gmail.com

yep, i'm skipping the olympics too. going to be pretty retarded. i'm buying a new place closer to the village (as much as i love creekside, this place is far larger, and way easier access for downhill biking, which i actually enjoy more than snowboarding (please god, don't strike me down) now. i'll still head to creekside for snowboarding in the winter. i have one of those treasured priority passes that lets you bypass the lines and go in the ski school line, for both the creekside gondola, as well as the red chair. myself and up to 3 other people :glugglug

sucks you aren't coming up at all though...