Well,my account was suspended once beacuse of complaint,but i got explanation from michael fast,i explain about what was that transcaction,and then my account was un suspended i even didn't lost that transcation.So this is kind a weird.

Well this thread should get long...

I will not post specifics on our policies other than it requires multiple complaints to get an account terminated.

you could start by sendind an email saying "so and so" sent you money and is complaining. Just because they did in fact send the $ doesnt mean it is a legit complaint.

there are 2 types of recent activity on my account that I would personally consider suspicious.

One, i did blog writing for someone, only had half of their blogs, offered to redo the other half or send 50% refund. I ended up sending a refund but person was still unhappy. If thats a complaint, its without merit because i returned the funds.

second, in trying to refund him, I tried added 2 visa debit cards multiple times and it was declining and not verifying them over and over. I had no clue why, thought I was mistyping, etc. Then i noticed my old debit card from way back was also unverified and figured it only worked with credit cards and not debit. Again, looks a bit fishy, but nothing to ban me over.

Otherwise, I really dont know.

Well,same as epassporte send various info about payments and news,it could send info about complaint.When someone start dispute on paypal,you see about which transaction is problem,who sending complaint,comment of complainer,etc.

exactly.

I was not saying YOU in general. I am saying a lot of these EPASS complaint threads end up being people who refuse to send docs and get closed, or a vary narrow group.

I do not broad stroke support EPASS and their policies either. I have had some things I did not like, and still do not like.

I completely agree with you. However, I do not think most mainstream or financial institutions are in a rush to serve or service the online adult industry. Those that see this huge opportunity do not have the finances, or do not wanna take the risk.

:2 cents:

Not for anything Michael, but I don't think its in your companies best interest to post details about anyone's specific account at ePassporte no matter what a toe rag they are

:2 cents:

he can email me the details. I just want an email better than "you had complaints, its closed, bye" at which point ill return here and say "hey i was given a fucking reason!" and my complaint will be retracted

so Batts got shitcanned

who cares? move along.

Yet another reason I personally stay away from epass. I'll stick to checks anyday.

Batts you're a scammer and you've been scamming people using Epassporte for a long time now. Seems like they did a good job with this one.

Did you click on the wrong thread or something?

This thread is not about Batts lol :1orglaugh

You have been around long enough to know that it is easy to set a stream of unverified complaints. :2 cents:

crawl back under your rock

How about you try paying attention? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

How did Batts get drawn in to this? :)

Apparently everyone is Batts.

Well I'm pretty sure milkit isn't :)

There is another similar thread that talks about Batts also getting his epass account shut down due to numerous complaints from other account holders. In that case, however, I am 100% sure he got what he deserved.

oddly i noticed in that thread it was actually a public attack to get his account blocked by asking for and performing a swarm. people were posting and asking others to send in complaints to epass to get his account blocked. people encouraged more people, status checks were done and eventually someone claimed that thanks to everyone his account was suspended.

would be real easy to say "mr. scam screwed me out of some cash i loaned him, if he has screwed you too could you file a complaint today so that we can get this unpopular persons account blocked?" and get a shitload of assistance from people that were never scammed in the first place. mostly due to the fact that it seems people love to go out of their way to report, fuck with, harm, or generally troll others around here for sport.

now i have no clue if that batts person deserved it or not. nor do i have any clue if the person in this thread is not deserving of it as well. i just would see it as a major problem and hole in a site if they will terminate, let alone suspend someones account over complaints - if the complaints are not explained and some form of arbitration or proof be given for it to happen.

the hole we can not tell someone why we shit canned you line is fucking old and is just wrong. it is way to easy for a company to use that line on any nobody such as myself who never bothered to build up a name/rep for myself on the boards. if it is a nobody versus someone known - unless you have iron clad proof that can be verified you can be certain the nobody always will get bashed. i know people will say they say that so you can not figure out how they busted you, or to protect their security. that is still just bs and in any other job on this planet if someone kicked your ass to the curb, taking away your money, and gave you that line - nobody would accept it.

:thumbsup .. . . even with the typos

I could never trust epass with my money, it seems like such a shady operation. :2 cents:

I've moved a few hundred k through mine over the last years and never felt anything but happy.

Milkit is not Batts and he is no scammer either. :2 cents:

That's because you're probably a scammer.

One minor detail is that multiple people have to send the $$ to the "victim" first... it's not THAT easy to organize that... I don't think many "trolls" would go that far, it's one thing to leave an anonymous complaint, but it's a completely different level to send $$, leave $$ trail and probably break some federal laws at the same time... :2 cents:

One's information is probably as safe with ePass as it is with PayPal, or even many major banks, that also offshores its back operations.

In particular, PayPal asks many people to submit much of the same info (scans of driver license, utility bills, bank statements, etc) as ePass does; sent to India and who knows where else. No escaping globalization in the money system other than using cash / barter instead.

To digress somewhat, even using a small community bank / credit union is no guarantee of information privacy, since most of them use one or more 3rd party systems, many of which utilize offshore labor, such as for verifying new customers, generating bank statements, managing on-line banking, etc.

Ron

been with them I don't know how many years. 5. 6, more?

never had one single issue. Epass rocks and Michael always sorts my shit out quickly :thumbsup

I always liked the FBI/Gov/Whote House official response to stuff like this: We do not discuss things still under investigation. :1orglaugh

Among other issues, and I'm sure that I'm not alone in thinking this, is why should Epassporte undertake any investigation or take any action in the first place. For example, if someone that I do business with is concerned that I have somehow civilly or criminally wronged them, they do not go to the bank with a complaint and have the bank investigate. The complainants options are the civil courts or police.

However, if Epassporte feels that they do, in fact, have a legal responsibility to investigate and act upon complaints, then there needs to be a formalized system in place, and it needs to be clearly communicated to all involved. The process must also be open -- not conducted in secret with the account holder never having heard a word of any kind from the complainant or Epassporte, and then suddenly being told that their account has been closed because anonymous (to the account holder) complaint(s) of a completely undisclosed nature have been received, and a secret inquiry was conducted and the account terminated with no recourse. At the very least, it should be mandatory that complainants first contact the account holder and attempt to resolve any disputes. After that, any unresolved complaints need to be carefully vetted for validity, and to determine whether it is rightly a case for the courts and/or police.

If on the other hand, Epassporte asserts that they have no legal responsibility to investigate and act on complaints, and are doing it solely out of supposed good will, then this also needs to be clearly communicated to all involved, and customers will have to decide for themselves if they wish to do business with a company that has decided to act outside of any legal responsibility and who may, at any time, terminate an account after they hold a secret investigation into alleged complaints.

Among other things, the secrecy could make it appear that accounts are terminated, at random, in order to line the pockets of Epassporte (corporately or of individuals within the company). Of course Epassporte would say this would not be the case, but surely you can appreciate that it could appear that way when everything is conducted secretly.

If there is legitimacy to Epassporte investigating and acting on complaints, then there should be NO objections to establishing a formalized open procedure for this purpose. In fact, it would be well advised as should a former account holder seek remedy, against Epassporte, in a court of law, that court is not going to be very impressed by an informal and secretive process having been in place. In fact, I suspect it is only a matter of time before a single or a class action case is launched.

Good points :2 cents:

to be fair i have never heard of anyone besides paypal asking for that info. I have accounts at a few major us banks , i have never been asked for even 1 of those things..ever.

so really the only argument is "well paypal does it "

so almost 6 days later, i get this email

same ol' bs with no reasons, no proof, no clue what the complaints are/were/whatever.

of course the response i get from "account verification" is this

so whatever, I give up. and fuck epass.

Most likely because you opened the bank accounts in person.

Also, if you opened the bank accounts many years ago, it's likely you were never asked for anything, other than, maybe, at most, a drivers license / state id. Though years ago, most didn't even require that. One just provided them a few basic details (name, address, and usually social security number), and they assumed it was accurate.

These days, most all U.S. banks require a government issued id and will scan a copy of it, plus will often ask for a second id, such as a major credit card. There's no trust at all these days - the customer is assumed a "criminal".

Many on-line sites require additional info, because it's very difficult to verify one's identity on-line. Even domain name registrars, such as eNom, will sometimes ask for a scan of one's drivers license, utility bill, credit card statement, etc. It's not just a PayPal thing, far from it.

Ron