Ok... I'll be Mr Pheer.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh best part of the thread.. except for the money of course

foolish because someone said they made 50% - 100% profit off of gallery banners and paid spots and I said, ok so you spending 100K a month on ads then?

Simple question right?

its fucking gfy, when someone comes in here and says they made 287K and then giving profit margins and I simply ask how much a month they were spending as I think it was amazing to spend that much on tgps... and I get LRN2Maths and omg stupid fucking replies and I am being foolish?

I've asked really simple, reasonible questions, if you dont want people asking you questions then dont post on a message board you made 287K a month.

LOL i am glad I wasn't the one who posted that as the thought crossed my mind. I am sure you will get the " bug sagi confirmed it dumb ass it must be true replies".

I instead opted for the safe side, i dont know you, no reason why someone couldn't do that much in sales, even though it is hard to believe you can spend that much on tgps. So you spending more than 100K a month on advertising to make that 287K?

WHAT omg, don't ask that question, i am being too aggresive and foolish to simply ask if he was spending more than 100K... thats too much info, its one thing to say how much he made and that his profit margin is over 50% but to ask if he spent 100K omg on noes... how dare i ask t hat question. fucking idiots around here, typical as usual.

thank you. i am trying so hard to stay nice but it is so fucking hard to do with idiots. I too find this motivating. I never doubted or questioned that that much money was made. Like I said it find it amazing that 1. it was all made from tgps (banner spots and paid listings) and that it was made using a Various Inc. website.

1. TGPS... if what he is saying about his profit margin is true is he is spending a lot of money even if he is making a 50% return on paid ads which is incredible as an AFFILIATE muchless from TGPS and Banners. So to make 287K he has to be spending a lot of money on TGPs, thats a lot of TGPS to do business with. What is the hun charging for the top paid spot these days? 3K a month ? Not saying it is impossible to drop 100K on tgps but not that easy either especially since it is using Various Inc. which brings me to point #2

2. Promoting Various Inc... they are either buying ads themselves (which is a much better profit margin than their affiliates have) or their affiliates are already buying ads on all of the major sites. I believe they have deals with the majority of the sites out there already, for one of their affiliates to come along and buy paid banner spots, that them as a company didn't already lock up and spend tons of money a month doing it seems very hard to believe.

So there is my skepticism... and I wouldn't even replied back if the poster would have answered my question yes or no to spending over 100K a month. But instead something like " lrn2maths" or some shit. Seemed like simple enough math to me... to elude that your profit margin is up too 100% is just assine.

oh and i forgot to add. What I find even more amazing is if I really did make 287K and I really did it from buying banner spots and paid spots on TGPs, and my profit margin really was more than 50% then I would have to be the biggest idiot in the world to come post to people 1. where i was advertising, and 2. which program I was promoting... just to t ry to hussle some webmaster referrals.

How many tgps are out there? not that many... if you making 50% profit margin I could signup to getiton and go do the same thing you doing, t ake 1/2 of your traffic and still make bank according to your numbers.... hmm maybe that is the point of this thread Various Inc hoping people go start promoting the hell out of them on tgps... but how would that help the orginal poster and why in the hell would he share that info and potentially hurt his income?

Webmaster referrals are great, I made a good bit of money from them helping people, but find 1 person who I ever told how and where I buy traffic from. I helped people convert their own traffic, not tell them why I buy from. Who would do t hat ? Doesn't make sense on so many levels.

I've seen Nigerian emails better than this.

this guys galleries would have been all over the tgps. anyone see them?

I think you're missing that by 50-100% he's being deliberately vague, that's such a large range you have no idea what his margin was.

will76: tl;dr.

If you want me to tell you exactly how much I'm spending and where I'm spending it: dream on. I don't mind leading people to water, but I balk at showing them exactly how to drink. Especially from my fucking pond.

You seem weirdly fixated on the TGP angle, when I've said I'm buying banner spots as well.

The stats I've posted are accurate and I'm NOT employed by AFF (directly-obviously I'm one of their affiliates, duh). I'm posting here for subs and out of gratitude and for shits and giggles.

Also what sacX said.

(You assclown.)

LOL. I don't need to ask you where you advertise, you already told us, tgp banners and gallery spots. There is only so many TGPS out there. Yes I find the TGP "angle" odd, that you would have been able to buy enough banner and gallery spots to generate that much in sales in one month, especially when doing business with a site that is agreesive with inhouse ad buys and locks up the big sites themselves, not their affiliates.

Maybe you should be more vague next time. Like I said if you really did make it from advertsing get it on, on tgp sites from banner and gallery spots, thats handing over the blue prints to everyone else to do the same. which is dumb if you don't want competition. It also makes it more believable to say " hey look this is how much money I made and i convert really well using this program".... to say it was from tgp banner and gallery spots is inviting other people to try to do what you are doing....

I've said my piece, no need to repeat myself any more.

It's quite obvious that there is some communication, when Sagi posted only 3-4 minutes after your OP. And it's quite obvious that both of you want people to click the links that are tagged all over. So there is more than gratitude, shits and giggle going on here...

Not that I personally care... but if you expect people to invest $100k by refering to an upload to photobucket album, then I think you underestimate peoples judgement. Would you really call (because you are "shy") a bank and tell them that?

Get it on!

My take on people copying others is this:

If you do something better than everybody else...they can copy you all day. It won't matter. That's why I laugh at all the "experts" on here who haven't done half of the things I've done trying to tell me that they have to hide all of their websites to keep others from "stealing their ideas".

Well hell, I'm right out in the open with what I do for a living. Have been since 1997.

Our tgp business made millions and millions of dollars and was there for everybody to see.

But guess what? Nobody could make the kind of money we did. lol

I can show everybody on this board how to play the exact notes that Eddie Van Halen does on a Van Halen song.

And you still won't be able to play as good as Eddie Van Halen. :)

Sometimes I think that a LOT of guys on here who bust into threads, make a comment or two but seem to have no connection to the business are just that...guys who aren't in the business.

When I ask them "what do you do" They go off on a rampage telling me that they can't reveal anything because of their super magical powers (like pussyserver for instance).

And then they never show stats, never say what their background is, their experience, etc.

So I give their comments the weight that they deserve in this community...NONE.

Now this person Janak? I don't know them, I don't know anything at all about them. But what I do know is this: I see some incredible stats that NOBODY else in this thread has ever come close to. So all of you are LESS than this person when it comes to making sales and understanding HOW to make them. So your comments and theories mean nothing. Especially when Sagi from AFF has backed this up.

Obviously, IF AFF did this themselves then all bets are off.

But I don't believe that for one minute. S.C. has told me in the past the kind of revenue that they do, and it's freakin' mind blowing. They've never given a shit what anybody on GFY thought before...so I'm not sure why they would now.

But I guess anything is possible.

Maybe even what is being presented to you up front: This person found a way to get their code in a lot of places and made a shit load of money. And they probably aren't gonna tell any of us how they pulled that off.

But if you do decide that you would like to tell me in private, I would love to hear. heh-heh

I've already admitted I'm also angling for subs? Strawman much? Bother reading before you post?

I don't expect people to do ANYTHING. As I've repeatedly stated, it's ultimately probably in my interest that they don't.

Regarding this... Sagi did know I was going to start a thread sometime in the next few days. I presume he just kept an eye out for it. There was no "ready.. steady.. POST" type communication.

Why do you use the title "You guys are leaving money on the table" and then tag "click here" all over then? Why the hell post like that, then? :1orglaugh

Seriously, you ARE talking about investments, and no one in these times, and especially in this business, are going to invest lots of money without more info. Without skepticism, then we might as well go party hardy to Las Vegas...

ex⋅pect
?verb (used with object)
1. to look forward to; regard as likely to happen; anticipate the occurrence or the coming of: I expect to read it. I expect him later. She expects that they will come.

Yes, and in context of your title and the tags all over, prove the opposite of your later "statement". So don't you think some more info is relevant?

what are good banners/marketing materials to use to promote GIO?

i'd be more concerned with various buying the actual spots.

I don't know if you are talking about me as "one of the guys who busted into this thread" but I was one of them. So if you think I have no connection to this business and not in the business, then you are not as smart as people give you credit for. I've generated over 100K+ credit card sales personally so I would think I am at least "connect to the business" . The reason why I do question some people is because l do know what it takes to make money. Most people who don't or haven't will just reply, WOW great stats. But the people who ask questions are always "haters" :upsidedow

As far as if you can do something better than other people , they can copy you all day and it wont matter.... People can copy you but if they don't have the traffic, and they can't evolve as you do, then sure it doesn't matter if they copy you or not, they wont be as good as you. Not to mention the shear nature of the fact that someone COPYING you is already 10 steps behind you, they copying what you were working on a year ago, while you are about to release something new. They will always be behind.

What we are talking about in this thread is copying someone's traffic source and the company they are sending the traffic to. It doesn't leave much to the imagination. If I knew for sure this guy was telling the truth, and I knew for sure he was really doing it from tgps I would go drop 100K and buy banner ads and tgp spots and advertise getiton. How much better can his banners or galleries be? (he is probably using sponsored supplied stuff anyway) So lets say his banners and gals are a lot better then mine and I only make a 30% return instead of a 75%.... i'll take that. I just don't believe what is being posted here enough to go spend the money to try it.

LMAO. he posted 4 (FOUR) minutes after you made t his post and you are telling us that you didn't tell him about it and he just happened to be ready set go.... because you mentioned 2 days ago about posting this.. and 4 mins after you did he replied. mmm'ok.

I am bumping this thread too much and giving it too much exposure some people might read this shit, believe, it and signup...

If anyone does.... please go hit the TGPS and then report back if you made 287K, a third party confirmation would be nice. If so I will be right behind you buying my banner spots too :thumbsup:1orglaugh

That's exactly what I'm saying.

You're going to believe whatever retarded bullshit regardless of what I'm saying. Feel free to leave the money where it is. All the more for me and for people who aren't so cerebrally deficient that they'll completely write off evidenced and attested assertions without even looking into them.

Where do you get that "banner spots" necessarily == "TGPs"? Mentally challenged or just a sloppy thinker?

hope
?noun
1. the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out for the best.

well done man!

Congratulations Janak.
I also promote AFF and believe those stats posted. I'm not quite there but plan on getting there soon :)
Thanks for the motivation :thumbsup

lol :1orglaugh

Nope wasn't referring to you in that context. I was just thinking of the people like "Klaze" and others who came into GFY with both barrels blasting and talking out of their ass about their millionaire lifestyle with nothing to back them up.

I know exactly why you are in this thread. And with good reasons to have a beef with AFF for their actions in the past. Their Zango antics and the fact that they were one of the first and the biggest supporters of content theft through the advertising dollars they threw to torrent sites and illegit tubes was horrendous. I agree with you on that.

But I handled matters with content theft to my own satisfaction. So I was able to put that shit to the side and concentrate on making money. And I've made a lot of money with their company over the years. At least two months of Janak revenue. :1orglaugh ...if you put my checks all together over the last decade. lol

But then again I promote around 500 programs give or take a dozen depending on who is starting a new one and who is shutting down this week.

So no, I wasn't attacking you in that statement. Sorry if it sounded that way.

Hey, I can't let JFK beat me to...

One Fiddy Cynical Webmasters Who Have Never Made That Much Money.

Stick with it dude, setting up the revstreams and doing deal finding/brokering can be hard work sometimes, but it's doable. I definitely didn't get here overnight. :thumbsup

fake nick.


i mean seriously... you explain that you have leprosy... post links to it etc etc etc... you make a post like this but make sure to accompany it by a weird back story about why no one knows this person.


remember this simple fact about people....

the innocent deny
the liars explain



its fake.

He didn't say he was buying banner spots on TGPs you dumbass. You realise sites other than TGPs have banner space?

So you haven't figured out how he makes it... big surprise that he hasn't give away the keys to the castle.

Oh shit, where'd will76 go? Did his vagina need watering?

I've noticed that too :2 cents:

I believe those numbers - AFF wouldn't risk their accreditation with verisign.

http://www.verisign.com/

no problem. thanks for the reply.

verisign says you can't make up stats and post it on a message board ? lol. You being sarcastic about the verisign comment, please tell me yes :)

I don't give a shit where he is buying banner spots from. As some who has made millions of dollars of ad buys, its a hit or miss game. Try it yourself if you don't believe me, you strike out on more than you you make money from, lots of trial and error trying to find some few gems. And like I said, banner spots, that is exactly what Various Inc buys up in house in large supply. As an affiliate good look trying to out bid them with their profit margin compared to what an affiliate is paid, not to mention they already have all of the big sites locked up. To claim you make 50% - 100% from banner spots is one of the harder things for me to believe in this thread. Well one of about 10 things that doesn't sound right.

Yeah my vagina was itching so I had to come back in post. This guy's persona makes him sound like boyalley in the 3rd grade, amazing mentality for someone who banks almost 300K a month in sales :upsidedow