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ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 05:10 AM

I'm not going to shit all over AFF's new product. I think it's a smart move, they have reached a point of maximum exposure. Everyone and their grandmother (including mine) has heard of AFF. It's a testament to how well the company has done over the years, but it also starts to become difficult to make money with.

So I work in dating, I know a handful of affiliates who have tested getiton, and their feedback when shooting the shit with me- just like the feedback of everyone else on GFY- is that the site converts well on click to free join, but no one's seeing that many sales yet. It's a new site, not shitting on it's potential conversion power, but that's the facts.

So when the person who stole a pic of someone I know from here in Tampa Bay starts posting 5 digit figures in one month using a product no one else has been able to make real money with yet, and we're talking people who know how to make money with dating, it raises an eyebrow.

I'm not even going to shit on the plant and brag marketing idea, because hey, it worked, right? But that doesn't mean I'm not going to call you out for it. ;)

Fletch XXX 09-10-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16301572)

So when the person who stole a pic of someone I know from here in Tampa Bay starts posting 5 digit figures in one month using a product no one else has been able to make real money with yet, and we're talking people who know how to make money with dating, it raises an eyebrow.

fake stats. fake nick. period. :thumbsup

ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 08:32 AM

Janak-

Seriously dude, the kid who's picture you stole is not even in adult. You're running around pretending to be him talking about the contacts and nail polish you are going to buy with your supposed fat earnings.... it's just not right.

Change up your avatar.

HookUPcom 09-10-2009 08:56 AM

I'm not me... Or wait... Maybe I am... I cant remeber.

I'm glad Al Bundy came to adult, I love that guy!

Not sure why you're giving this guy shit. - over his avatar?

There is money in the dating business if you know how to work it. Running at a near 10% chargeback would make a few nervous. I don't think he'd post that high of chargeback rates if he was making up stats.

New Dating sites do well... There is all kinds of ways to drive traffic. ;)

Cheers!

J.

ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HookUPcom (Post 16302293)
I'm not me... Or wait... Maybe I am... I cant remeber.

I'm glad Al Bundy came to adult, I love that guy!

Not sure why you're giving this guy shit. - over his avatar?

There is money in the dating business if you know how to work it. Running at a near 10% chargeback would make a few nervous. I don't think he'd post that high of chargeback rates if he was making up stats.

New Dating sites do well... There is all kinds of ways to drive traffic. ;)

Cheers!

J.

Al Bundy is a famous character. I'm giving him shit not because he just jacked some random photo, but because he jacked a photo of a real person, a person I know, and has build a persona around it.

If I lifted a photo off facebook of someone in your social circle and claimed to be that person, would you not find that odd? Would you call me out and say, "Hey! I know that person!" or would you keep your mouth shut because you don't want to spook a potential source of traffic?

The money that can be made in dating is seemingly limitless. There is endless potential, and that's why I choose to work in the space. I'm not trying to say that there's no money to be made in the space AT ALL.

What I am saying is if you're full of shit you're full of shit, and this kid is full of shit.

Janak 09-10-2009 02:15 PM

::yaaaaawn::

How about you spend a little less time making ridiculous assertions and a little more time on your business. Maybe then you won't freak out like a giant vagina over other people's success.

papill0n 09-10-2009 02:33 PM

nice stats john :thumbsup

will76 09-10-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16300553)
I've got no problem angling for some subs, but like I said. I'm posting here to promote the program because Jesus fuck, AFF just paid me a quarter of a million dollars. Shoot me for feeling grateful?

it's one thing to "angle for subs" but when you are making almost 300K a month and you try to angle for subs by telling potential subs where you generate your 300K from, is just flat out retarded. You going to jeapordize your 300K to try to make a couple webmaster referrals.... :1orglaugh



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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16300572)
You guys are hilarious. I show you the easy money, show you I'm making it, even give you leads on HOW TO DO IT and you're all like "DUDEROO IT'S SOME HUGE CONSPIRACY". Like you can't even figure out how to type in the site's freaking URL yourself to bypass the sub code.

Seriously, DON'T take my word for it, it's only to my advantage. Those of you without your heads up your asses might consider just TRIALLING SOME TRAFFIC on GIO to find out for YOURSELVES if I'm making this shit up.

No wonder this board is full of scrubbers making galleries dreaming of doing $1k/mo TO, lol.

easy money? lol yeah all the money made on the net is easy (is this 1998 again?) the hard part to believe, and likely why so many people are questioning you is that they find it hard that you are telling the truth and telling people all of that information just to make some webmaster referrals. It is to your advantage to not tell people where you get your traffic from.

this is so hard to believe on so many levels. i can't believe some one could be smart enough to make easy money, 287K of it but be dumb enough to tell people how he did it so he could try to make a couple webmaster referrals. :thumbsup good luck with that.

will76 09-10-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16301572)

So when the person who stole a pic of someone I know from here in Tampa Bay starts posting 5 digit figures in one month using a product no one else has been able to make real money with yet, and we're talking people who know how to make money with dating, it raises an eyebrow.

and don't forget he is making the 287K from banner spots and paid spots on tgps making a greater than 50% return on his money.

Janak 09-10-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16304079)
and don't forget he is making the 287K from banner spots and paid spots on tgps making a greater than 50% return on his money.

You certainly don't seem in any danger of forgetting it... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Janak 09-10-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16304066)
this is so hard to believe on so many levels. i can't believe some one could be smart enough to make easy money, 287K of it but be dumb enough to tell people how he did it so he could try to make a couple webmaster referrals. :thumbsup good luck with that.

I've kept it reasonably vague. I haven't told you WHERE I'm buying the spots/galleries.

And the truth is, I knew reactions like yours would be typical here. Most people AREN'T going to believe me. Most people ARE going to think I'm a paid shill, or an AFF rep, or a complete fraud. Most people aren't going to bother investigating my assertions for themselves.

And most people are going to stay poor. :thumbsup

~Ray 09-10-2009 03:23 PM

what are a few of the good banners to use to promote GIO?

Machete_ 09-10-2009 03:27 PM

who cares really.

I dont know about the rest of you, but I still cant pay my bills with other peoples income. If someone have found a way to do that, please let me know how.

The stats impress me, but I dont know if its his, the aff programs own, or a huge cross-sale setup. He could be francis konig (or how the hell its spelled)

It make NO difference to me

SonOfaBeach 09-10-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HookUPcom (Post 16302293)
I don't think he'd post that high of chargeback rates if he was making up stats.

Interesting point.

I keep going back and forth on this one, but I guess it can't hurt to give GIO a shot and see. Hell - I just want to make some extra money and retire early... :1orglaugh

Someone please point me to the right programs!


[In the interest of FULL disclosure, that is *not* me in my avatar.]

ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 06:02 PM

So... are you going to take Steven's picture down?

Agent 488 09-10-2009 06:05 PM

think i might make a sandwich.

Janak 09-10-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16304719)
So... are you going to take Steven's picture down?

Well I dunno, "Shelly". Are you going to take some randomhotslut's picture? Or develop a sense of humor anytime soon?

ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16304737)
Well I dunno, "Shelly". Are you going to take some randomhotslut's picture? Or develop a sense of humor anytime soon?

This is my picture.

The picture you are using is and pretending to be is someone I know. Someone who doesn't even go on these boards. If you're using his picture in jest that's even worse. Go steal some other picture, would ya?

How would you like it if someone found your facebook or your flickr and pretended to be you and then made jokes about how they were going to use their check form the program they're shilling for to buy something like.. say donuts if you're overweight or clearasil if you have acne. That would be complete shit. You're mocking someone who doesn't even fucking deserve it. His personal universe doesn't even intersect with yours.

Don't be a dick.

WarChild 09-10-2009 06:18 PM

One thing is absolutely for sure. This Steven character is a dork of the highest magnitude. It's everyone's sacred duty to beat down dorks. Please conform immediately and thanks in advance.

Janak 09-10-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16304751)
This is my picture.

The picture you are using is and pretending to be is someone I know. Someone who doesn't even go on these boards. If you're using his picture in jest that's even worse. Go steal some other picture, would ya?

How would you like it if someone found your facebook or your flickr and pretended to be you and then made jokes about how they were going to use their check form the program they're shilling for to buy something like.. say donuts if you're overweight or clearasil if you have acne. That would be complete shit. You're mocking someone who doesn't even fucking deserve it. His personal universe doesn't even intersect with yours.

Don't be a dick.

I don't know. The only consequence of "being a dick" here seems to be that you bump my thread every few minutes. And you seem to be the only one here who knows him and is busy getting all hot and bothered on his behalf.

ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16304895)
I don't know. The only consequence of "being a dick" here seems to be that you bump my thread every few minutes. And you seem to be the only one here who knows him and is busy getting all hot and bothered on his behalf.

I'm the only person who knows who he is because he's NOT IN ADULT. I don't see a need to bring non industry people to an industry board just to tear you up about your douchbaggery and fake nick.

sacX 09-10-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16304946)
I'm the only person who knows who he is because he's NOT IN ADULT. I don't see a need to bring non industry people to an industry board just to tear you up about your douchbaggery and fake nick.

so you're the only person who cares.. that's a pretty small club.

Janak 09-10-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16304946)
I'm the only person who knows who he is because he's NOT IN ADULT. I don't see a need to bring non industry people to an industry board just to tear you up about your douchbaggery and fake nick.

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/v...BuddyJesus.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

cherrylula 09-10-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16300572)
No wonder this board is full of scrubbers making galleries dreaming of doing $1k/mo TO, lol.

great way to get new affiliates from this very board you are posting on.

many successful webmasters started out that way...

insults and stolen avatar pic, congrats. :1orglaugh

cheers to Miss Crash :)

ShellyCrash 09-10-2009 08:33 PM

Can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to build your own brand and put all your efforts into building up a fake persona unless there was an ulterior motive.

To go through the motions of grabbing someone's profile pic from another website and building a whole persona around it on a business forum, what the fuck is the slant on that? Why would you want to pretend to be someone else HERE?

This whole thing is just one big con.

Janak 09-10-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16305017)
great way to get new affiliates from this very board you are posting on.

many successful webmasters started out that way...

insults and stolen avatar pic, congrats. :1orglaugh

cheers to Miss Crash :)

I didn't start out insulting anyone. I didn't make any negative comments about anyone until people started attacking my integrity and questioning my honesty (or made assertions amounting to red-faced 140 decibel declarations of utter slackjawed cluelessness.)

Subs I can take or leave. You know. Nice but not required (KIND OF OBVIOUSLY QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN AUGUST LOL.)

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305126)
Can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to build your own brand and put all your efforts into building up a fake persona unless there was an ulterior motive.

To go through the motions of grabbing someone's profile pic from another website and building a whole persona around it on a business forum, what the fuck is the slant on that? Why would you want to pretend to be someone else HERE?

This whole thing is just one big con.

Don't see how I can or should be held responsible for your evident failure of imagination. Your motivation in poo-pooing my claims is trivially apparent to anyone who knows who you are and what you do or can be bothered taking 5 seconds to discover same.

At the same time. Keep it up! Because:

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/v...b01906f0b5.png

TDF 09-10-2009 09:43 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/MKiller/haha.gif

HookUPcom 09-10-2009 09:56 PM

Are you 2 in Luv?

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Agent 488 09-10-2009 10:39 PM

aw come on it's fake. i hope no one believes this shit.

Agent 488 09-10-2009 10:41 PM

of course it is. you'd have to be slow to believe this shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305126)
Can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to build your own brand and put all your efforts into building up a fake persona unless there was an ulterior motive.

To go through the motions of grabbing someone's profile pic from another website and building a whole persona around it on a business forum, what the fuck is the slant on that? Why would you want to pretend to be someone else HERE?

This whole thing is just one big con.


AaliyahLove 09-10-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16304751)
This is my picture.

The picture you are using is and pretending to be is someone I know. Someone who doesn't even go on these boards. If you're using his picture in jest that's even worse. Go steal some other picture, would ya?

How would you like it if someone found your facebook or your flickr and pretended to be you and then made jokes about how they were going to use their check form the program they're shilling for to buy something like.. say donuts if you're overweight or clearasil if you have acne. That would be complete shit. You're mocking someone who doesn't even fucking deserve it. His personal universe doesn't even intersect with yours.

Don't be a dick.

People HAVE used my pic for avatars before, and I find it very flattering :)

ShellyCrash 09-11-2009 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16305359)
you'd have to be slow to believe this shit.

You're right. I shouldn't even bother with this shit. I know I'm wasting my time.

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Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 16305380)
People HAVE used my pic for avatars before, and I find it very flattering :)

Aaliyah, it's different because you work in adult and those people aren't claiming to be you.

If someone stole your pics and uploaded them to facebook or match.com and was pretending to be you, wouldn't you want them taken down.

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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16305265)
Your motivation in poo-pooing my claims is trivially apparent to anyone who knows who you are and what you do or can be bothered taking 5 seconds to discover same.

Anyone who knows who I am knows I don't waste my time doing shitty things like "poo-pooing" my competetors. Let's get this straight- I'm calling you out because you stole a pic of someone I know for your avatar, not because you're shilling for AFF. If you'll go back and re-read my posts, you'll see I actually say good things about your employer. Don't believe me, talk to reps from other companies- which if you were an affiliate I would assume you would know at least one of us- but no one short of AFF seems to know who you really are, funny huh? If you really did that kind of volume you'd have to have absolutely no business sense to not have worked with at least one other program over your "years" it took you to get where you are.

Oh, and since you only seem to understand macros, here's one for you:


CaptainHowdy 09-11-2009 08:00 AM

Why the hate?

d-null 09-11-2009 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16305356)
aw come on it's fake. i hope no one believes this shit.

one of the rules of human nature, no matter how obviously fake something is, if it tells a story that someone wants to believe, there will be people that believe it

Janak 09-11-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305965)
You're right. I shouldn't even bother with this shit. I know I'm wasting my time.



Aaliyah, it's different because you work in adult and those people aren't claiming to be you.

If someone stole your pics and uploaded them to facebook or match.com and was pretending to be you, wouldn't you want them taken down.

... Which clearly isn't what I've done.

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305965)
Anyone who knows who I am knows I don't waste my time doing shitty things like "poo-pooing" my competetors.

And yet here you are, doing it...

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305965)
Let's get this straight- I'm calling you out because you stole a pic of someone I know for your avatar, not because you're shilling for AFF.

You're not "calling me out" at all. You're mewling like a speared vagina over things that don't concern you whatsoever in order to deflect attention from a successful program with whom you are in direct competition.

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305965)
If you'll go back and re-read my posts, you'll see I actually say good things about your employer.

Sorry, I've just eaten.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305965)
Don't believe me, talk to reps from other companies- which if you were an affiliate I would assume you would know at least one of us- but no one short of AFF seems to know who you really are, funny huh? If you really did that kind of volume you'd have to have absolutely no business sense to not have worked with at least one other program over your "years" it took you to get where you are.

The absence of penguins in my lounge is not proof that penguins don't exist. LRN2SCIENCE.

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16305965)
Oh, and since you only seem to understand macros, here's one for you:

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/v.../butthurt3.jpg

ShellyCrash 09-11-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Janak (Post 16307874)
You're not "calling me out" at all. You're mewling like a speared vagina over things that don't concern you whatsoever in order to deflect attention from a successful program with whom you are in direct competition.

But I'm not talking shit about the program or the product, just picking apart this marketing ploy.

Also GIO is not in direct competition with me. Don't judge by my sig- Eroticy has a special place in my heart but unfortunatly it is not my focus at the moment, Ashley Madison and Swappernet are.

Sean 09-11-2009 02:49 PM

please see this thread for more details http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/926789-287-720-august-getiton-guys-leaving-money-table.html

Sean 09-11-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16307993)
But I'm not talking shit about the program or the product, just picking apart this marketing ploy.

Also GIO is not in direct competition with me. Don't judge by my sig- Eroticy has a special place in my heart but unfortunatly it is not my focus at the moment, Ashley Madison and Swappernet are.

the man made money and is talking about it. sign up under his account and maybe he will show you how its done

Janak 09-11-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16307993)
But I'm not talking shit about the program or the product, just picking apart this marketing ploy.

Really? How about:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16307993)
So I work in dating, I know a handful of affiliates who have tested getiton, and their feedback when shooting the shit with me- just like the feedback of everyone else on GFY- is that the site converts well on click to free join, but no one's seeing that many sales yet. It's a new site, not shitting on it's potential conversion power, but that's the facts.

And then...

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16307993)
Also GIO is not in direct competition with me. Don't judge by my sig- Eroticy has a special place in my heart but unfortunatly it is not my focus at the moment, Ashley Madison and Swappernet are.

Referencing two other dating sites which are also in direct competition with GIO...

You're the disingenuous fraudster here, lady. Why don't you come clean about your own motivations for pissing all over AFF?

ShellyCrash 09-11-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 16308007)
the man made money and is talking about it. sign up under his account and maybe he will show you how its done

Hey man, if you're cool with it why don't you let him use the pics of one of your friends for his "edgy" persona? Or maybe look into picking up something from Istock:

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thum...n-portrait.jpg

I'm not looking to start a pissing match with you.


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