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DonovanTrent 09-14-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 16316111)
i can't believe some of the idiots are really Adult site owners here, some of You guys are total faliours, some says adult and mainstream movies are different,
some says You can't defense fantasies as an argument bla bla bla.

how can You fucktards can compare dressing up a 21 girl like a child and a sleeping fantasy? what the fuck is wrong with Your minds?

Sleeping fantasy is just an innocent fantasy between partners and nothing is wrong with that.

You nutjob's deal must be defensing Your own side, not making up useless philosophies out of Your dumb asses.

learn how to defend Your own rights and job or please leave the fuck outa this business and save us reading from Your idiotic statements :321GFY

Tell it to a judge. In US. Not Turkey.

Half man, Half Amazing 09-14-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NikKay (Post 16316771)
Max wasn't just dressing 18-year-olds up like 12-year-olds. A ton of companies do that and aren't targeted.

You missed the part where I said "say they are 12"...go back and look at Max's older stuff...he dressed the girls up like 12 year olds and actually had the girls say "Fuck my 12yr old ass mister". Big difference. Ever notice that little disclaimer in front of pornos where it says "no actor or actress is portraying anyone under 18"...guess why that's there?

Axelo9 09-14-2009 02:01 PM

Who want's to sleep?:upsidedow

pornguy 09-14-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16307953)
Visa is policy. But not law.

When Visa Processes payments for you they ARE law.

Robbie 09-14-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 16318414)
Ever notice that little disclaimer in front of pornos where it says "no actor or actress is portraying anyone under 18"...guess why that's there?

I've never seen that! Of course it's been a long time since I actually watched a porn dvd or video tape. But I've never seen that before.

bDok 09-14-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16308576)
Didn't PRDave just say HE was the source and linked back to this thread?

So am I not understanding that he basically just told us all he made it up and it's not true?

By the way...not that it matters or anything...but in my opinion you should be able to do anything you want in a film. (not talking about ACTUALLY killing, raping etc.)

It's just a movie. They kill and rape all the time in Hollywood movies. Hell I just sat through the latest "Final Destination" movie. A fucking slaughterfest.

Anyway, you should be able to simulate any goddamn thing you want to. You want to have a 21 year old dress up like she's 15? So what? You want to have two actors play out a rape scene? So what? You want to bring out the ketchup and fake knives and kill people on film? So what?

It's goddamn movies! Jesus Christ!

Let people decide for themselves. If people WANT to see it, it will be successful. If people don't want to see it, it will die away quickly.

I just can't wrap my head around the notion that some people have the right to tell other full grown adults what they can see, watch, do, read, write, or film. As long as it is consenting adults working on a film together.

The govt. is really starting to get on my fucking nerves. I know I'm not the only one.

serious truth. :2 cents:

After Shock Media 09-14-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 16316133)
i can't believe some of the idiots are really Adult site owners here, some of You guys are total failures, some says adult and mainstream movies are different,
some says You can't defense fantasies as an argument bla bla bla.
how can You fucktards can compare dressing up a 21 girl like a child and a sleeping fantasy? what the fuck is wrong with Your minds?
Sleeping fantasy is just an innocent fantasy between partners and nothing is wrong with that.
You nutjob's deal must be defensing Your own side, not making up useless philosophies out of Your dumb asses.
learn how to defend Your own rights and job or please leave the fuck outa this business and save us reading from Your idiotic statements :321GFY

Adult and mainstream movies are different, just deal with it. If you refuse to admit they are different then you are the one with the problem.

You can try to defend any fantasy you want and you can use it is just a fantasy as your argument, it does not mean you will win. We are not talking about court though in this thread. We are talking about Visa compliance talk. They do not have courts nor do I think they have arbitration on what you can or can not sell using them.

You can compare dressing up a 21 year old woman as a child and sleep fantasy very easily. All though both are fantasies, an adult having sex with child is illegal and an adult having sex with someone who is not giving consent prior to the act (revocable at any time) is also illegal.

See:

Sex with child - illegal.
Sex without consent - illegal.

Sleep fantasy can very well be enjoyable fun and a interesting fantasy between a couple. It still does not alter the facts though. I do not agree with this but it is how it is. Though I would be pretty sure that you are also not aware that in many states having sex with someone that is drunk is also rape.

Now nobody is making up useless philosophies nor not defending things. You just CAN NOT defend yourself against Visa compliance policy changes. You want to accept their card, you must play by their rules. So I would read that statement a few times before you tell anyone to leave this industry for not fighting.

While I am at it. You should have no issue with someone posting their thoughts and views even if they do not fit into your tiny little jigsaw puzzle mind. The very same shit your saying needs to be defended is in no way different then peoples comments needing to be defended - yet you want to run them out of this business for having different views than yourself.

*disclaimer - I personally have odd moral lines. I am ok with most all porn, would not produce nor fund several types, would not even view or promote several types. I also would not have a problem if some studio hooked up with some special effects guy and had a scene where a guy was doing a chick doggie style, then chopped her head off with a sword quickly and beginning to skull fuck it during the last few fleeting seconds of her life with her body laying under them.

Robbie 09-14-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16318971)
in many states having sex with someone that is drunk is also rape.

Holy shit! That means I've never had sex without rape being involved! Looks like I've always been raping and being raped at the same time! :1orglaugh

ToplistBlog_Com 09-14-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16308595)
this could be the first step to tyranny and fascism.

it is quite probable that visa handled all credit card processing for the nazi regime.

I accidentally read tyranny as "tranny". Was very confused. Ruling with an iron cock?

After Shock Media 09-14-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16319001)
Holy shit! That means I've never had sex without rape being involved! Looks like I've always been raping and being raped at the same time! :1orglaugh

Me too.
I do not just make this shit up though. Pretty sure I violated the marital rape laws as well.

Robbie 09-14-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16319316)
Me too.
I do not just make this shit up though. Pretty sure I violated the marital rape laws as well.

Dude, I just realized that if that Drunk=Rape thing is in effect...I have raped myself masturbating more times than I care to remember. :upsidedow

Titan 09-14-2009 06:05 PM

fucking doh

NikKay 09-15-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16319001)
Holy shit! That means I've never had sex without rape being involved! Looks like I've always been raping and being raped at the same time! :1orglaugh

You've never had sober sex before?? You might want to see someone about that. ;)

Agent 488 09-15-2009 05:19 AM

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AtlantisCash 09-15-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16317531)
Tell it to a judge. In US. Not Turkey.


Neither This Place is a fuckin court, nor i m an advocate, what i only do is reminding to some people here what is their job and they should defend it, even though i doudt Some of those are real Adult Webmasters or at least aware of what does being an Adult webmaster mean.

Lastly i advise You to revise for better arguements to be able to defence Your own opinion rather then trying to prove us how smart guy You are and how sarcastic You can be

Robbie 09-15-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NikKay (Post 16320666)
You've never had sober sex before?? You might want to see someone about that. ;)

I've never had sober sex, sober dinner, sober breakfast, hell I don't even sleep and wake up...I pass out and come to. I'm drunk right now, and considering raping myself. :1orglaugh

DonovanTrent 09-15-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 16321260)
Neither This Place is a fuckin court, nor i m an advocate, what i only do is reminding to some people here what is their job and they should defend it, even though i doudt Some of those are real Adult Webmasters or at least aware of what does being an Adult webmaster mean.

Lastly i advise You to revise for better arguements to be able to defence Your own opinion rather then trying to prove us how smart guy You are and how sarcastic You can be

Once I learn Turkish, I'll re-read that and understand it.

AtlantisCash 09-15-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16321935)
Once I learn Turkish, I'll re-read that and understand it.


Actually i didn't edit it, i was in a rush and asked my partner to press button, but no need to be bothered, because Your brain is too small to understand it.

AtlantisCash 09-15-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16318971)
Adult and mainstream movies are different, just deal with it. If you refuse to admit they are different then you are the one with the problem.

You can try to defend any fantasy you want and you can use it is just a fantasy as your argument, it does not mean you will win. We are not talking about court though in this thread. We are talking about Visa compliance talk. They do not have courts nor do I think they have arbitration on what you can or can not sell using them.

You can compare dressing up a 21 year old woman as a child and sleep fantasy very easily. All though both are fantasies, an adult having sex with child is illegal and an adult having sex with someone who is not giving consent prior to the act (revocable at any time) is also illegal.

See:

Sex with child - illegal.
Sex without consent - illegal.

Sleep fantasy can very well be enjoyable fun and a interesting fantasy between a couple. It still does not alter the facts though. I do not agree with this but it is how it is. Though I would be pretty sure that you are also not aware that in many states having sex with someone that is drunk is also rape.

Now nobody is making up useless philosophies nor not defending things. You just CAN NOT defend yourself against Visa compliance policy changes. You want to accept their card, you must play by their rules. So I would read that statement a few times before you tell anyone to leave this industry for not fighting.

While I am at it. You should have no issue with someone posting their thoughts and views even if they do not fit into your tiny little jigsaw puzzle mind. The very same shit your saying needs to be defended is in no way different then peoples comments needing to be defended - yet you want to run them out of this business for having different views than yourself.

*disclaimer - I personally have odd moral lines. I am ok with most all porn, would not produce nor fund several types, would not even view or promote several types. I also would not have a problem if some studio hooked up with some special effects guy and had a scene where a guy was doing a chick doggie style, then chopped her head off with a sword quickly and beginning to skull fuck it during the last few fleeting seconds of her life with her body laying under them.



The problem is not anyone's views here, the problem is the views itself,

if You call this "freedom of expression" ok then, i m using the same right to shout it loud and i think You said You have no problem with that eh?

i stand behind my words and repeat it again,

if someone can not :errordefense His/Her own Job, then when something went wrong, the person have no fucking right to bitch about it.

if the real issue is sleeping niche, You may be right, but can You Guaranty me, this is not an experimental action for the whole industry?

what i m trying to say is, if we want to keep putting food on the table from this business for more years, we should be brave as the other side.

***

last of the last things, even though i always thought You were a cool guy, it seems You pointed Your arrows to me, but i will give it up at this level

DonovanTrent 09-15-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 16322049)
Actually i didn't edit it, i was in a rush and asked my partner to press button, but no need to be bothered, because Your brain is too small to understand it.

You're absolutely correct, I am one stupid motherfucker.

Naughty-Pages 09-16-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 16307831)
This is a soon to be dead niche.

:thumbsup

not sure why there was a thumbs up in that post.. :(

but with no confirmation, i have asked around and have heard nothing to confirm..

Asked some of your ppl about this post, but still no solid information..

but you also own adultelite which promotes "Sleep Invasion" I just bought 3 names off of another webmaster that were sleeping related.. (I own nearly 1,000 sites)

figuring that you might be dropping adult elites Sleep invasion site, I did not add your shit to those 3 new sites, instead added galleries from other programs..

i gotta say that if this was a joke, then you are really shooting yourself in the foot here...

if i do not hear something soon, i will also probably pull any links we have to your site and replace them with other programs because i assume you plan to dump it or something..

some legit feedback would be nice...


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