:2 cents: on that. If you find something that is working to any degree, milk that cow.

Hmmmm... that's not a cow. :1orglaugh :winkwink:

No...kinda funny and sad your asking this...but no...

And if you think doing 4 gallery and 2 freesites submissions a day = "a lot of work" then I would say - mothefuckingimpossible.

yes absolutely... you need to know good designers, good programmers and a mind of your own and you can easily make $500 per day.

Seems lots of people aren't reading the whole post ;)

According to his post, with NO contacts... I don't think it can be done. With some contacts and money behind him, sure, if he busts his ass.

thats what i make in profit a day and i only have a little more than a yr in the industry but i do it on a diferent way im just an affiliate i dont have my own site


But if you want a partner and want to take your think to the next level contact me icq 598907692

Edit: Never mind, I get it now. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Don't you have a dog or two to take care of? :1orglaugh

So you're not willing to do 'all that work' (a few hours/day) to make $250/day (~$90k/yr)? Gimme a break.

not unless he has major bank

There is an endless line of lazy, entitlement, apathetic fucks who think like this.

I have tried helping in the past on various webmaster boards, and when I would explain (more so back in old days with galleries, free sites, etc) how to make money doing a half day's work submitting.... people would say that exact same thing.

"Sorry man, but that sounds like a lot of work".

I would just chuckle. Most of those people are now gone, or out of business, or lost their asses doing it 'their way'. However, as I said in that other 'big brother the helper thread', 99% of the people do not have what it takes to work online.

Some examples....

1. Be in business for yourself.
2. Dedicated to the 'routine' and commitment needed for online work.
3. Will not invest 6+ months working towards a goal. Most give up in 2 weeks.
4. Creative thinking. Looking at others, throwing a new spin on it, making it your own.
5. Invest in success.

Most are pathetic sheep who follow the herd, read and believe everything on the industry boards, are not reading trades or other sources, do not do trial and error themselves, always looking for the cheap host, the cheap designer, the cheap coder, the short cuts, and so on.

These people are destined to fail, and almost always do.
:2 cents:

If you are J*w, Chinese or East-Indian the answer is - possibly. If you are not, you probably are working for one without even realizing it.

95% of the people on this board are very lucky to make $50 / day, do you think you are ten times smarter than 95% of the people here?

knowledge and drive are key

I have to agree with toots Barefootsies!
This sounds sooooooooo easy but it's soooooo hard
1. Be in business for yourself.
2. Dedicated to the 'routine' and commitment needed for online work.
3. Will not invest 6+ months working towards a goal. Most give up in 2 weeks.
4. Creative thinking. Looking at others, throwing a new spin on it, making it your own.
5. Invest in success.

I would say NO, but if the newbie just graduated from a top tech school he might have a head start.

Your last statement pretty much gives your answer. "4 galleries and 2 free sites is a lot of work" - then my answer is NO. Because it takes a helluva lot more than that bit of traffic to make $500 a day, unless you hit on every one. And to be honest subbing 6 things a day is nowhere near the "hard work" that has to be endured.

i place tiny ads in newspapers for free!

:)

...could not have said that shit better myself!

It's not so easy. Most TGPs will only accept a few gallery submissions a day.
You are suggesting to cheat. :disgust

Motherfucking AMEN to that.

I think the answer is outsourcing. If you don't want to work you can hire some people form third world countries and delegate the work. It doesn't need to require much time but you can now submit 20+ galleries a day with few virtual assistants or more and scale it. There is always a way to make it happen. And $500 a day is not really a lot of money.

Yeah, it's only significantly more than 99% of the people on this planet make on average, but on planet Nebulus Seven it is mere chump change!

$500 x 365 = $182,500.00... hardly even worth aspiring to really. Maybe a car payment and some cat food at best.

I wonder how many people that say its "no big deal" don't even remotely make close to that amount...:1orglaugh

I could post a detailed business plan outlining the steps required to be taken. All the testing, tweaking and brain work already done for you.

500 people will read it. 20 people will try to implement it but give up and 1 person will stick with it and make a decent income. Not everyone has the motivation to be self employed, which at the end of the day means less comp for those of us which do. :)

-N

Short answer yes with an if, long answer no with a but.

Feel free to post it. I would certainly be interested in what you have to say. :thumbsup

define "newbie"

Give it a go...

At this point I would be happy with $50 a day.

I need some direction or something...

:2 cents:

:1orglaugh Thanks for summing it up so tidily.

To answer the original question, yes, I absolutely think it is possible to pull that much dough in just starting now as a newbie. If you are a workaholic and if you can stand doing a less good job than you wish when you start, it is possible to build. If someone just wants to be perfect and at that $ level from day one, that is not how starting functions. Everyone makes mistakes and some days are going to be better than others. I suppose one could quibble over whether you start when you begin drafting a business plan or when you begin implementing a particular milestone or whatever.

In summary, it was easier to make money during the heyday, but adult internet has not gone the way of the horse and buggy yet.

Sure it is but it will take one hell of a lot of work.