I had hoped for a better response than this.... for or against me..... just figgured you had more in you that that is all..

I'm getting used to being disappointed though....

thinking about this slam....

how's that really any different that coming to public message board sucking someone's cock cause they stroked your ego when you needed it?

So in your world if someone fucks you around say nothing, keep quiet and don't be a wounded bambi, but it's ok to go in public and stroke ego's and cocks in a look at me i'm cool fest?

Holy Cow , I have known both of you for very long time that is really
nuts to hear that you guys had a terrible fall out :(:disgust

keep proving my point Scott

some people are men, and some are ... well not

exactly. some can defend themselves and some can't

jman = good people

Always 2 sides to a coin, unfortunately for GFY I am not one to wash my dirty laundry online.

:2 cents:

i was actually thinking of your earlier post, and this is the best thought I came up with

if someone fucks me over, I usually was stupid enough to let it happen

two people in my internet career fucked me over so hard thus far, and in both cases I have continued to speak to both of them and even had meals and drinks with them

they were both business partners and work mates, and yeah it hurt like hell when they fucked me

but you know what - life is short... i was stupid for letting them fuck me, and not once have I mentioned their names on a board

I was too stupid to not set things up from the get go so they couldnt fuck me over

i mean ... its only business ;)

yeah , you do it privately with people like the fucking coward you are. :2 cents:

business is one thing - don't give a shit about that. Done that a dozen times too.

when someone who you called a friend tells you they were only your friend cause you were buying them stuff - whole new ballpark. :2 cents:

spoken like a man - congrats mate

oh for shits sake - your like a bad case of the clap that's infected my hemorrhoid, and smells so bad my dog wont lick my balls anymore

sorry i had trouble understanding what you said there. Please stand back, take the dick out of your mouth, take a few deep breaths and then speak more clearly so people can understand you.

Ok lol as I was told to not to get into this and I won't, Scott you can spew all the BS you want... Have fun and hope it makes you feel better about yourself.

I always laugh at your self righteous attitude. You've gotten into it with more than a dozen people who got back to me about it privately.

you're a lying piece of shit.

You're the ONLY person I'm happy got written off in my bankruptcy.

A real man stands up for himself, and defends himself when put in a situation where they need to.

You always come across soo pompous and soo self centered it's almost sick. You sucked Sleazy's cock on here for years, now he's not at the top of his game and you have nothing positive to say. Kind of says something about you man.

And a smart man takes good advices and don't let an adult webmaster community involved in his private matters :2 cents:

oh dear - and here i thought you were just discussing the open system that is GFY, when in fact it turns out you are a hater too, and someway associated with Scott

I can understand and respect you want to defend a friend... but again i say quite clearly, why does anyone have to come in and be a hater in a thread where I am thanking someone for doing so much to help me and my family. A family in crisis in fact.

Scott has come into this thread and posted hateful words, and I find his actions distasteful - as would many others under the circumstance

I just dont understand that Rob....

I mean - read what JF said - he didnt put Scott down at all... quite the contrary

anyways - Good night Scott.. I am sorry you felt it necessary to hi-jack this thread of mine.. a thread of happiness in a time where there seems so little

and to everyone else, Goodnight... love more - hate less

And to Jean-Francois - Bonne Nuit Mon Ami

Sorry, not a hater, just having an opinion. Sadly in this day and age if someone has an opinion that you do not agree with they are either a hater or troll. Well, the fact of the matter is simple and that is people can form any opinion they want on another person, and just because you don't agree does not make them a hater, troll, or anything else.

I don't know Scott personally in any way shape or form, never met him, or done any real business with him. Purchased spots on his site in the past, but that was through cybercat.

I find Jean-Jman etc whatever, to be just that. Pompous, and self centered. He's said a lot of things in the past that were very focused on himself, he's bro'ed up with a lot of people, and when questioned on his stance on many topics instead of being a "man" as you guys keep saying, he would just avoid the topic, leave the thread, or say something totally pointless like oui-oui.

Jman was there for you and your family, that's great for you, but why do you think a board even cares about that, I know I don't, and I know others don't as well. If you want to come in and have some sort of bromance, and keep speaking about what type of "men" you are, then be able to take the fucking heat when someone does not like you, or what you say, or the type of person you or someone you care for may be.

Take the love fest to a dating site if you want to suck each other off. This thread has your opinion of Jean, that's great and I am glad he did a good deed for you, but what you are saying is your opinion. Others have opinions as well, and on a public message board, in an industry based on freedoms, a main one being freedom of speech suck it up and understand that the world does not love Jean just because you do, and we are not all ready to erect a 40 foot high statue in his honor.

Sad - you are slipping Dan, you used to be bright. :2 cents:

I don't mean to disrespect you Rob, and I may know you but I can't remember what you look like - I'm not even sure who Rob is. Have we ever met or done business?

Don't know me, we've never done biz directly.

funny - Jman was always worried about thread hijacking.....

usually it's the people who can't defend them self that are worried about such :2 cents:

and you call jman pompous

this thread isnt about you.. doesn't involve you... and yet here you are giving me shit because i care enough for a friend to tell the many hundreds of people i have had the privilege of meeting in this industry what just happened with me

do me a favour Rob - count the vast majority of webmasters who speak positively of Jean-Francois in this thread, and then count the two of you who gave Jean-Francois shit

The thing I love about GFY, and all the other boards - I can search these threads for years to come to see who I want to do business with, and who are just too painful to bother with

I am done bothering with you

good luck with yuor business... your networking skills rock :1orglaugh

or a man on a leash :2 cents:

some people think networking is about sucking cock.

I'm not one of those people.

I network quite well actually, I'm not in this thread to network, but am here to speak my mind.

So you are saying that threads you start are only for select people who you want only positive feedback from?

Start your own board then.

=)

Networking is about doing business, and how we can increase profits on both sides of the table, nothing more then that.

If you walk into a potential business meeting and say "oh you said you don't like Jman on GFY, so I'm not going to do business with you..." Well you sort of have a small problem.

And to think my networking skills come into question.....:helpme:helpme

Kudos to JF. I love positive threads like this.

i would hope anyone would do business based on the merits of the deal - with or without Jman-eese influence.

I was going to write more but fuck it I'll just say...

It sucks to see two people I consider friends end up like this.

I have known both you guys for over 5 years and I hope you two can patch things up one day.

Spent some time with Jayman in Montreal. What a fun guy...

I once caught him delivering milk for free, just to bring back that good old feeling.

Eugh... I hate seeing threads with good intentions turn around like this. Best of luck to you both. If either of you need anything, you know how to reach me.
WG

me too....

After the last thing he told me fixing it or gaining his friendship requires paying for him. I don't need friends like that.

lol, i had quite the weekend up there (Vancouver) too. big party, blah blah blah. you are welcome anytime, just give me a heads up.

I would have to disagree with that. To me he's merely speaking the truth as he sees it. Someone already mentioned in this thread about there being two sides to every story, well this is the other side. Is this the right thread for it to happen in? Probably not but no matter which board you decided to post this one you'd have zero control over what other people say, right?

In light of the size and nature of the business deal that went sour between them I'm rather surprised this hasn't blown up on the board long before this. I've been expecting it for months now. Not hoping for it, but expecting it.

And no need to disparage GFY or the people who post here over this. Anyone who has ever posted here before should know enough not to bring a topic up unless you're prepared to handle the negative as well, because if there IS a negative out there to be had you know that HERE you're damned well going to get it, usually with both barrels.

And people who know them (Scott & JF) say they'd like to see this mess get repaired between them so they can be friends again, well that's never going to happen unless everyone (who is actually involved directly) starts talking about it. If that has to happen here well, personally that's not the route I would recommend but if that's the only way it gets aired out then so be it.

In other words hey, at least they're communicating. :winkwink:


As for the love for Jman aspect to this thread I've had several albeit brief ICQ conversations with him over the years, last one being a few months ago, all of which have been interesting as well as entertaining. If he ever blows back into town and lets me know it I'd go have a beer with him anytime.