Well... All I can say is... see you next week JF!

I completely agree that everyone should form their own opinions of people, both in their personal and business dealings. It may be wise to be aware of others' advice, but, in the end, you need to make decisions based upon your experience with an individual.

For example, if I based my opinions of people off this message board, I wouldn't deal or talk to 95% of those found here. Of that remaining 5%, I might think they are solid people due to their positive reputation but 4 out of 5 would be willing to screw you over for a nickel.

I read people quite well. There are a few times, where I have pre-judged people only to change my stance once I got to know them better. Consider it luck if you wish, but overall in my lifetime I can pretty much say I have never really been screwed over by anyone.

That said, I also think the following analogy may apply: if your current girlfriend cheated on her ex but (as far as you know) hasn't cheated on you; the fact remains, she still might cheat on you.

Lastly to sum up the people in this thread:

Dan - I met you many years ago and consider you one of the more "straight" guys I've met through this business. That puts you among a limited number. If you ever do need help that I may be able to lend a hand with, don't hesitate to ask. Hopefully I'll be up there in Montreal this December :)

J.F. - I don't know you much at all, so haven't formed any opinion yet. I've heard both sides about you, on one hand I have heard about things you have done in the past to people (not talking about just Scott here) I know well and trust. On the other hand, you have Dan praising you here for being a good guy and helping him and his family out. Thus, I reserve judgement until such a time as I get to know you better.

Scott - At first, you are probably one of those I "pre-judged" and didn't like at all. However, hanging out a bit at our Costa Rica Bash I learned you were very different than your board persona and not an obnoxious asshole at all. You fit in those rare categories where I do change an opinion after getting to know someone better.

To conclude my little diatribe, the bitching back and forth in this thread is just making all involved look pretty childish IMO :2 cents:

Lazycash is losing it. Where are you?

LMAO bullshitting people to look like a little victim ain't to sexy Scott.

As I said 2 sides to each story and mine is well documentated and WON'T go public as I owe 0 explanations to GFY on what happen between me and Scott. And I surely don't need an online community to tap me on the back and say "everything will be alright" or "Poor you that sucks what they did to you".


As per being friends again... Hard to be friends with someone who is Dead to me!!!!!

Damn..... Harsh words being thrown around now. That's why friends should never do business together.

Money and friends don't mix. Like 2 dicks with no bitch. Fine yourself in some serious shit!

Depends on the individuals...one of my best friends and I had been in business together for 8 years and though we both moved on to different projects now, we are still friends.

hope you guys work it out.

Yea some friends can for sure, but you're definitely gambling with your friendship because there is a possibility of it going very very wrong. I've seen it too many times..

thanks for the kind words mate - all I wanted to do in this thread was thank a very dear friend, and then it got all ugly very quickly

I forgot it is GFY after all - lol

And I am looking forward to you getting up here in Xmas - we definitely have to meet up and discuss some biz

what a crazy thread! the op starts with a how wonderful j-f is and how he was REALLY there for him but we are left to fill in the good parts- wtf does that mean? what happened and what did dude do that was so good that we are all here chatting?

instead, it ends with a *j-f is a swell guy* that we need on our team.? eh? all couched in a i'm just here on occasion to not hate, more love. then i go passive/aggressive on sd when he hijacks? the thread.

i did like that part. :thumbsup


then, as others have mentioned, we knew sd was gonna pop at some point over the sd/j-f break-up. he's saying some pretty heavy stuff about the guy FINALLY, when you think about it.

stuff that happens in this biz- "friendships" that blow-up when the money either drives up or blows the fuck up.

just imagine, if these 2 had made a fuck load of cash together!

either one, or both, would of killed the other by now! hahaha LOLZ


:)

You're right Brad, wrong day to sleep in. Can you start trolling again so you can fill in when I'm laggin?

http://www.jflaverdiere.com/pics/pranksleazy%20002.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you sucked me dry and now you're laughing and moved on.

fuck you

Unlike you I'm not telling anyone not to do business with you. Do business based on the merit of the deal.

Carry on slamming be behind my back - it's what COWARDS like YOU do. I continue to get ICQs from people you think you trust telling me about what you're doing.

You've betrayed sooo many people from this industry without their knowledge it makes me sick. They will all find out - your true colors always come out - it just takes time.

Warnings like this just make people see your true colors faster, and that's what really pisses you off in the end.

I have the same documents. Funny how you love to change the facts to make yourself look good. It's sooo much easier to do that when there's no one to dispute it either. It's why you do it like that.

professional mooches call it called damage control.

If I was only his friend cause I was paying for things (HIS WORDS) - it really makes me wonder how many others in this biz are the same?

I've made and lost boatloads of cash with dozens of people from this industry - dozens and dozens and most way WAY more in amount than this deal without problem winning or loosing.

Does Evil-Dan pay JMan?

Scott why do you feel the need to justify yourself on GFY... People ICQ me this, you did that... whaaaa whaaaa whaaaa... Our dealings have 0 to do with online business.

Oh and trust me you spewing your crap on GFY as not me worried about my reputation nore my business dealings. Like they say, any publicity is good publicity Eh!!!

you're the lowest piece of human garbage I've ever known.

carry on slamming me behind my back, it's what you do.

hrs before thread posted...

let's start a thread to get sleazy pissed, sure ill start it with how much I love you and he will jump in with his broken heart and talk about how much of a pos his lost is.

gayest thread ever!

this thread was def started knowing sleazy would get upset. grow up seriously.

I just wanted to make a post about how great pornhub, tube8 and trafficjunkie have been to me, feeding me and my family.. without them..

come on now.. I wouldnt post shit like that without having any intentions of stirring up shit with everyone here.

Hit Dan up he's easy to find on ICQ and ask him what happened hours before he posted the thread.

Also Scott as been going on for months, even saying in this exact thread it was not me and then lost it. Do you think if I would of EVER bring this argument public I would of done it before. It will not benefit neither him or I to have our ditry laundry in the GFY mixer. Hence why I never came on GFY bitching about anything.

You all should do like me and go back to do business and carry on with your lives, I could not care less what Scott spew's about me but as I said you can be sure that I will not be playing this kindergarden game.

This is seriously retarted in sooo many ways

how many times did you threaten me to take my bankrupsy public?

you're a piece of human garbage

Just so we all dont lose sight of what this thread is really about and why it was started..
david hasselhoff was rushed to the hospital with alcohol poisoning...

"WARNING - RE Jean-Francois.. otherwise known as JMan - WARNING!!!!!!!!!! "


Looks like the thread title was fitting after all.

and to think it all was over this:

http://www.hjorleifson.com/basset/119.jpg

Jman = a damn nice French Canadian guy like me. Period

if sleazy was in the wrong im sure you would air it on gfy. i dont think sleazy is the type of guy to intentionally fuck anyone over. and its no secret that i think sleazy is a douchebag so unlike your usually gfy asskissing that you do i actaully have an unbiased opinion.

anyone who has seen your past posts on gfy with sleazy know it was pretty obvious you were freeloading off of him for quite some time. sorry to hear the gravy train dried up for you.

I am on page 1 and a couple posts into this thread and something tells me you are being baited with this thread and looks like so far you are falling for it. :2 cents:

if Jman is the guy you been bitching about the the last couple months ... there was no way you were going to leave this thread alone.. you should just get it out around, seems like you going to explode holding it all in.

do i count if i think Jman and Sleazy are scumbags ?

lol

LMAO, a 2 year can see what is going on here with this thread...


http://www.accelterm.com/Images/bigs...ap_1254633.jpg


are you really caught off guard? shocked to see him post in this thread even when you admit you knew there was bad blood between them? Him seeing other people rave about how top notch the guy is that he feels screwed him, the same guy he has made several posts about over the last couple months, that you really are shocked he wouldn't appear in this thread....

http://k43.pbase.com/u23/blu92in99/u...iggaplease.bmp

looks like i was right again lol

Thats fucking retarded. Every time I hear someone say "its only business" which is usually followed by "its not personal" I think how fucking retarded that person is.

The most PERSONAL thing you can do to me is to fuck with my business aka INCOME. I can't believe people can be so fucking stupid to use that expression and make that comment often.

It's only business..... Joe fucked me out of 100K but we still are friends, it was only business... fuck that. Mess with my income, you mess with my family, livilyhood, etc... you can't get more personal than that.

And the life is short bullshit.... actually it isn't most people live to be in their 70s + its pretty fucking long and people are a dime a dozen. If you so hard up for friends that you need to be nice to the ones that fucked you over then you have serious problems. Good friends are hard to find, but good friends are also the ones that don't fuck you over, business or not.

After reading most of this bullshit i kinda feel sorry for sleazy and what you guys, in particular you Dan did to him in this thread.

Thank you Guys

Life's about learning about who your real friends are and who's just there to use and mooch.

I cant believe this long nice thread with no pics of proof? wow....

nope, life is about living.

good point :2 cents:

You just screwed yourself with this one then...

Or what you just said doesn't apply to yourself but only to others? :winkwink::1orglaugh

LMAO isn't a true GFY thread until a conspiracy theorist joins in :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The picture that is no longer visable was a " NIGGA PLEASE ".


Come on, a conspiracy.... (insert nigga please picture again).

It was SO FUCKING OBVIOUS why this thread was made. WARNING!!! WARNING!!!! JMAN!!!

Everyone knows Scott has been bashing you for weeks, but wont say your name. This thread gets everyone's attention thinking that it is related to the Scott / Jman drama.

Dan blows you, other people come in blow you. Do you really think Scott is going to be able to hold it back. He has hardly been able to hold it back till now with out people saying how great you are, for him to hear all of this.... then to see the way Dan played and toyed with him.... goated him into breaking down and going off on you.... which was conveniently after 10 or so people said you were great... just makes Scott look all the mre stupid... You knew he was going to crack sooner or later, so you got him to do it in a thread where people are praising you.... lol

Don't try to play it off. this was orchestrated and played out perfect, take credit for a job well done. I give Dan a 10+ for pulling this off.

Scott, you fell for it hook line sinker....

JMan, you know I am not a fan of Scott and I don't know either of you, but I think it is so obvious what the intention of this thread was...