Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16350493)

I want the confidence every business owner has...

I have what you want... I offer it at a fair price... you want to do business with me. etc.

That is what i'm after... if getting a shitload of traffic via tubes is just a well thought out phenomena and the traffic is still good after offering almost EVERYTHING for free... I want to hear from the owner's mouth to stand behind their product

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 16351181)

Obviously as you say they are smart and it will be monetized. The best method or product will convert it.

As you say when dealing with big traffic that it is the way to do it.

Big traffic = big competition.

Maybe I should grab $100 and try. I might be able to crack 1:1333 seriously.

But I doubt it :)

Originally Posted by Traffic Junky (Post 16356704)

I'll stand behind our traffic, can't stand behind yours tho... it's worth a try, but if your ads suck don't come here post stats and say our traffic suck... trust me, we have lots of advertisers "turning bucks" ... We are not launching TJ it has been running for almost a year. The traffic converts, sometimes the product advertised suck...

I actually contacted you a while back, you probably don't remember... I wanted to push your stuff as an affiliate (since I think it would convert) The test is definatly worth a try, let us help you with the ads and if it doesn't work with $100 I'm even willing to give you a second $100... then we discuss, if you start with the idea that it will not work, then most likely it will not.

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16357092)

fletch you available to get some things done quickly?

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16357095)

always :thumbsup

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350942)

I was hoping to avoid this, but looks like I will have to state the obvious.
This is how a smart person sells tube traffic, and the people behind TJ are smart:

1) Create ad zones and put up affiliate ads
2) Calculate, based on PPS/revshare results, the CPM value of each zone
3) Use a bidding system to sell the traffic.
4) Buy your own traffic by bidding just below your calculated CPM value
5) When someone bids above your own bid --> $$$ PROFIT MORE $$$

The purpose of this whole skinning is to find someone who can convert tube traffic better than the people who own the tubes can.
It's not easy, but if you can do it, you stand to make A LOT of money since there is A TON of traffic.

And if you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it's impossible. Someone will.
Of course, since you are dealing with thieves, expect the method to be stolen :)

Now class, any questions?

Originally Posted by Traffic Junky (Post 16356704)

I'll stand behind our traffic, can't stand behind yours tho... it's worth a try, but if your ads suck don't come here post stats and say our traffic suck... trust me, we have lots of advertisers "turning bucks" ... We are not launching TJ it has been running for almost a year. The traffic converts, sometimes the product advertised suck...

I actually contacted you a while back, you probably don't remember... I wanted to push your stuff as an affiliate (since I think it would convert) The test is definatly worth a try, let us help you with the ads and if it doesn't work with $100 I'm even willing to give you a second $100... then we discuss, if you start with the idea that it will not work, then most likely it will not.