You just happen to be one of the lucky ones. The tube owners are to stupid to put up your content because they just view it with their dicks and not their wallets still. If I was you I would stay very low.

There's no money to be made in SEO. Move along folks.
WG

like they said on Mad Men this week,

"being an account man is about letting things go, so you can get what you want"

then of course the dude they were talking about got his foot cut off by a secretary driving a John Deer. unrelated but entertaining.
lol

dating and cams.

of course i got a head start in that shit a while ago.

:1orglaugh.. . :Oh crap

The economy is bad because cigarette prices went up :)

I make good money sending traffic to other people's paysites (among other revenue streams). I'm sure I'm not the only one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...ster/stats.jpg


yeah.. without using tubes!!!

interesting pool, voted

Fifty better days.

You've got there over one million uniques there... nice.

Looks like about .025/unique.

sorry forgot to add 2500 that i stole from David foster / Brazzers.. they wont get my joins now... come sue me frenchies :)

traffic is out there.. but i wont send to a site that screws the surfer or gives proceeds to other companies. I will be moving a few more links this week to point away from some sponsors who tolerate / fund them..

Excellent stats MVT. Now prepare for 100 questions about how you manage to pull it off.

sure.. no problem.. dont be a used car sales man and give ur surfers they want without fucking them sideways..

oh yeah this isnt mail either (different stats for that lol) and yes it is clean mail as well..

more computers are online everyday.. and that poor fucker who just wants to jerk off gets screwed right off the bat.. let them find sites that they trust and wont fuck them and you will make more $ than any tube in the long run..

look at the sites that still stand the test of time (free or pay) Shemp / Cyberage / etc... all honest sites.. u get what u see no strings and no getting fist fucked for it

word :)

MVT do you run sites? Or is it a form of direct marketing?

run 1 paysite / send traffic via seo landing pages and even tgp traffic still to it and others..

as well recommend sites via members area..

We have a few affiliates who presumably make a full-time living(or a good enough income) off of us alone, so I'm sure they do rather well.

Like someone else mentioned, there's still a LOT of affiliates with links/galleries up pointing to nothing. That's not good.

With the few affiliate-related sites I've got up, I make a part-time living.. but I also don't put a lot of time into it.

I definitely think the potential is there if you know what you're doing and you're innovative. Stuff that worked in 2003 won't work in 2009. Stuff that works now won't work in 2011 either.

Tight man, thanks for the info. :thumbsup:thumbsup

A serious question for ya though Jay ... when you were piling down the cash as an affiliate you didn't have OCCash. When you opened OCCash, did you find your time and resources going more to that than xxxj-jay-links.com and your other free sites?

I think that an affiliate making good money today has to be truly 100% focused solely on their sites and promotions, no other distractions. There are some mobile WMs who can pound down 25-30 joins/day .... that's no small affiliate.

kristin.. been playing with mobile stuff and for those who want a boost to your sales, mobile looks like a easier sell than you would think!

You are my freaking hero!! I only have to worry about my own site, and I am still trying to find out ways to get people to join my site.

Pushing cams/dating is excellent bank, sure, but in terms of mainstream porn paysites I think it's over. Over in the sense that you can do much better on non-adult offers than you can with the aforementioned.

Or perhaps there's scads of easy money there and I'm just too much of a dunce to see/find it.

I'm also with mostly non-tube traffic, and with same amount of hits, you have twice the better ratios than me. Guess I have to start working on optimizing the traffic better, but I do not upsell from some member site, which makes a major difference regarding traffic quality? Besides that, programs count hits differently, so its harder to compare.

http://camelfart.com/nstats.jpg

Hit me up if you need anything from TopBucks.

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The money is still there to be made.

You just have to work 10x harder to get it. Everyday it is harder and and harder but the money is still there. I don't make 30K+ a week any more but still doing pretty good.

The pie is definitely shrinking, but it is still big enough that even if you get a small slice of it you can still make bank. You just have to work harder, longer, and smarter than everyone else. The days of finding something and making money from it on cruise control are way over. It's a lot of hard work and a lot of people get weeded out because of that, which still leaves money on the table for those who are busting their asses to make it.

I wouldn't bank on making affiliate money the rest of your life. Which is the main reason I am looking for an opportunity to hook up with a good company or individual who wants to have the best cam site out there. This affiliate shit is only going to last so long, at least for me it is. If you are an affiliate and you are smart you need to have an exit strategy - to having your own site, or investing in something offline, etc... something. I don't see things getting easier anytime soon and the pie will only shrink more over time.

i think it's good it's thinning out the field! fuck all of you :thumbsup

most of you idiots (xxxjay) had it made but you got lazy and sat back for to long while others expanded with markets now you idiots (xxxjay) only have yourself to blame. :thumbsup

well if your faked stats you linked in your sig was true ($200k+ in 3 months lol) then you dont have to worry about shit. and you wouldnt be on this board either. all my millionaire friends are on their boats or at their beachhouses.

I think that "?" was supposed to be a "!".
Traffic from inside a members area is as good as it gets.

Every Industry has it's changes and sometimes they come quicker then you expect it, i honestly agree with Pro that it's all a matter it's all about looking for new ways and using your brain for a change and not following the same routine. I haven't been affected much from the change i guess i made a right move a while back but the industry isn't going anywhere and surely not going to get over turned by a few illegal tube sites.

lol I read that post if you really did that, then funny stuff. :1orglaugh

As for the Opening post.. Yea, I still make a living and full time, but damn it's not what it was. TBH though I have been taking it easy the last year or so living on what I've built up in the past.

I got a bit bummed out from getting ripped on some stuff I paid to have done and then with the down turn in sales.. well I just felt it was time for a break. Thank goodness most of my stuff can still pull sales regardless if I worked on it today or 6 months ago.

Lately, I've been getting back to work and built 4 new blogs today so I'm getting back into the grove again. I'm hitting the blogs again fairly hard and see where that goes over the next few months.

TBH though, even with the obvious down turn is sales, there is still lots of money out there you just have to dig it up. I know I'm damn sure not going back to the daily grind so I'm starting to dig. :upsidedow

So if MVTs ratios are from member area, then my ratios are not that bad after all?
I have already plugged the plug for some really bad sponsors.. and more to come. But it takes time with so many sponsors and my older work is not exactly organized.

I think anyone can make a decent and honest living as affiliate, if they work full time and do not put all eggs in one nest (to keep it stable). For me, it's not only about money, but also because I love the work.

Just because you make 200K in 3 months doesn't mean you are a millionaire. There is a huge difference between NET and GROSS. Affiliate stats show you what a person GROSSES. What they actually NET / PROFIT is whole nother story. These days don't expect that Profit % to be huge either. Some people might have to spend 180K to make 200K. Certainly doesn't make them a millionaire. :2 cents:

+ tax :)

If his stats are from members areas then they suck serious ass no matter how much it shows he made. I still do not have to worry about converting less than 1:5 with that traffic.

PS - not hating on his stats.

who wants to go halves on a hot dog cart?

Some of his traffic is from members areas. Probably only a small part.
I was simply saying that's the best traffic - nothing about his or your conversions.

My non members conversions are similar to his and so is my approach.