Originally Posted by blonda80 (Post 16361195)

i don`t understand how is going to be with rebills. Are they going to be 50% as before or 20% from now on?

Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 16356600)

The entire affiliate program industry wide is broken, and has been for some time. You know that as well as I do. When I started out everyone was doing 20% recurring... then people offered 30% and on and on all trying to beat out the other guys. This worked fine when sales where easy and everyone was making money hand over fist, but times have changed. Everyone is scraping buy and soon your only going to be left with the multi corps of porn, when that happens... what do you think the payouts going to be?

Tell me, how many single sites do you see left right now? How many new ones do you see starting up? Well, I've been here for over 10 years now, and will go down fighting, but as it is, it's a battle I'm not going to win. Seeing the skinning of GFY by
the tubes has shown me that.

As I stated in the email, I will work will current affiliates and even new ones on a case by case bases but I'm only going to be taking new affiliate signups personally from now on. (Actually the change is happening now with the anotherprogram.com domain going off and no new affiliate will be allowed to join until WMS is running over at Ccbill. Even then the actual signup forum will be mailed by me directly and not accessible via the web)

Sure, other programs are going to offer higher % payouts for a time and they are going to get every tom dick and harry pushing them, but when the stats are 1:8000 or higher are you really making more?

By doing what I'm doing I'm actually helping the people actively pushing me. There is FAR less competition between affiliates and everyones ratios can stay low. Will I make less? Most likely. But the sites at a point where things have got to change or there will not be a site to promote period. I'm sorry if you can't see my point of view on this and I hope we can work it out but you have to do what you have to do also.

Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 16361359)

Hi Gerco,

I'm one of those people you talked to, and I'd be glad to reopen our conversation again if you'd like. To be honest, I don't even remember where we left off or why.

My biggest concern is that you want to use "today's revenue" as a starting point, but that revenue is (apparently) dropping every month.

Perhaps there are other ways, though... let me know if you'd like to have another phone conversation.

Adam

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16361405)

Congrats. Its your biz and you can run it however you want.

Now when were programs paying out 20%?
I know of cam programs but paysites?

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 16357439)

I love how people come up with these wild ratios! I do between 1:300 and 1:500 on more than one large "saturated" program. I mean christ, my BangBros ratio this period is 1:463. I do even better on extreme niched stuff, although the volume tends to be much lower.

So how long does a customer have to rebill at 20% revshare for me to compete with $35 per signup? Way longer than they're going to.

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 16356591)

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16358556)

Even the SEO guys aren't gonna bring anybody to your site who wasn't going to come there anyway.

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 16362095)

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