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I just uploaded a "No Preview" version of BoobieMovies.com...
http://www.BoobieMovies.com/Big-Boun.../windex01.html I'll come back with sales results at the end of October (one month). |
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That's because photos can be manipulated. Ugly chicks can be beautified like goddesses. Facial impurities, stretch marks and freckles can be removed leaving a soft porcelain like skin.
... Only to be disappointed when they reach the member's area haha :winkwink: coz that's where all the magic wears off |
I would think a/b testing would be essential. If the main processor is scrubbing a bit more that week the whole test could give false data. Not to mention changes to traffic sources etc. There are just too many variables to just change the tour and hope more sales show up.
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Interesting thread.
I don't buythe excuse of guys getting off on sample clips and moving on. Today MEMBERS know all where to get a free move. However I have seen a lot of tours where the samples all look very familiar and girls are obviously faking it. Maybe he just moved on. Will give a try and change to pictures only and see what happens. |
I would say there are many factors involved such as how did the user get to your landing page to begin with and what keywords are they searching. Are they looking for a guide and review or do they just want the final destination. I think there are many pros to excluding videos or giving the option to view the video as a button. You save space on content, you get more opportunities to write more, you might gain a bit of trust from the user by not forcing the video on them and letting them decide. If you have text and images those can provide searchable content opposed to videos. Your page might load faster without the video.
I don't know, do some AB testing |
really nice stuff here, gotta try some of this
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strip your tours of trailers (I dont care if god himself made them)
strip them of pornstar names and right there you will see a increase in sales |
Interesting input!
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Isn't what you show on your trailers determining if a user makes the conversion to a member?
If you show all ... what's there to be curious about and even more ... to pay 4? We should rename trailers to teasers, as that's what they should be! |
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I don?t consult people for a living you do, and consultants all have the same fucking problem. If you go to consultant A and tell him ?I heard from some other guy that if you do the following it can help?, they first regardless of what you said have to make fun of it, doctors are the same shit, and programmers have the same fucking problem. You know shit, you lost your business because you didn?t adapt and now are doing what every fucking old man who didn?t adapt does, consult. |
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All good, it's not like you know me from a hole in the ground. I'm not really a consultant, I simply just don't know what to call myself. I own programs, paysites, plugins, owned my hosts, an extreme amount of stuff really. I was selling hosts pre 00, sold my first paysite pre99, and in the last 10 years I sold 3 affiliate programs. We aren't on the same playing field... you run affiliate programs, you have staff based around that, and you do many various things related all around that. I hated that because it took away my ability to do what I do best.. So if you can run your entire company, build everything you do, manage all this stuff... and you have time for proper split tests, know exactly what to test each time and you have time to pour over the data for endless hours... Then wow!.... You're the ONLY Affiliate Program, host, processor, etc in our Industry able to manage all this. I mean that in a respectful way too.. it's just amazing.. I have 100's of clients, some of the biggest in our Industry, and nobody is able to do what you can. That commands total respect! |
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That's the meatiest post I've ever seen on here Makes perfect sense |
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Nobody has mentioned rebills.
Do tours with trailers have higher or lower rebills? 6 joins that rebill is better than 10 joins that cancel. |
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being tossed about why not answer that question? |
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But I agree with you on the biggest programs. They need 10 employees to do work of 1 guy who really knows what he is doing. |
Honestly, although I realize I'm not the customer for video sites, I usually like a five minute or shorter trailer way better than a long drawn-out full-length video.
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Wow,
A real business thread. Very interesting reading. *hugs and kisses* |
wow, this thread still going on? If anyone applied some of this tips, would love to know how it worked. I can see BFT3K still has the no video tour since September, so I assume he's doing better.
Anyways, this is just a small part of many things you can do when it comes to conversions @TheDoc: I assume EB isn't doing everything by herself, but she has a team of people, like many companies do. And without doubting about your experience, I can attest EB isn't lacking experience either. |
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I did not say five minutes is a short trailer. I said that I personally enjoy trailers, which are five minutes or shorter, more than I enjoy full-length videos. Five minutes of a video playing is pretty much my maximum for it to be entertaining just on sex appeal. If there are surfers who respond as I do, then having trailers in tours may satisfy them such that they leave their credit cards in their wallet. |
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Plus, rebilling techniques are a whole different story, approaches are really different and quite unrelated :2 cents: |
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I don't think EB lacks experience...anything but that.. but with experiences though, even Golfers have Coaches. The coaches aren't better golfers - some have been great though, but they are experienced so well in what they do, that they can teach the Pro to be better. Right now you have the Pro saying, Swing for the hills - it works!!! And you have the coach saying, hey - wait a minute... that isn't always true - don't tell people that, it wrecks the peoples games. You can take the advice how you like... most people swing for the hills and end up in the bushes either way... |
im not sure about trailers vs non trailers
since i always had trailers and i found photos just give you an idea of the scene but trailers actually show how intense or how real the action is but I could tell you something I have tested the more previews shown whether it be videos or photos the lower the signups so i found it best to have only a few really good previews and send them to the join page quicker or as fast as possible instead of having pages and pages of scenes/models to look at (which is good for bounce rate but bad for conversions) also here is something else for you i have tested sending more hits to the join page via blind thumb linking, linking descriptions, etc from the tour and found this will send more signups (conversions might be lower but conversions do not make money) i see some tours with only a few small join links or only clean clear cut join links and in my case this would send less signups when i tried it so take whatever you want out of this but i believe you cannot generalize and say with trailers sells better or without sells better every site is different and every site traffic sources and type of visitors are different so what works on one site will not necessarily work on another |
i'm torn!
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you've very good and true points here.
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Anyway, there's a logical reason for that: you're presenting the surfer with a call to action. Not to click on a link that will go to a tour where he/she hopefully will click another link to go to join page. You sign up or you go out. Straight to the point. That's why I never can emphasize enough the importance of join pages, which apparently seems like the less important page for most webmasters :Oh crap |
Outstanding thread!
Its a shame we dont get to see many informative topics/discussions like this often... |
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http://www.stockingvideos.com/stream...woodwhores.wmv |
Alright, I've just linked every thumb and join link on my tour directly to the join landing page which gives surfers the choice between $24.95 recurring and $29.95 non-recurring. Absolutely zero previews besides the thumbs on the main index. LOL
I eliminated the trials. I also redesigned my whole join landing page and added an image of one of our models. A bit of a hard-sell approach, but I think it will make a difference. http://www.ghettothugs.com |
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