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ProG 09-27-2009 07:57 PM

Try pushing their warez site instead :1orglaugh

http://www.warezaccess.com/

Jdoughs 09-27-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16365449)
No, the sponsor I had an issue with I sent them an email linked to this thread and they "fixed" the problem. I have no clue whats up with Alpha Sky.

So you rant on and on in here about how you would steal and rip sites if someone never paid you or attempted to be shady.

Then post that you know of one who isnt crediting for sales.

Then next post say its taken care of. But don't mention any names.

So you go from a crusader to a mute in 2 posts?

What the fuck do you take us for? Idiots?

AlphaSky 09-27-2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16365428)
maybe it was the "same PC" that also signed up as an affiliate in the first place? :1orglaugh

Thanks. yeah, you got us. Our master plan has been blown. It took nine months of intense planning to steal that $ 280, and now you've blown the case wide open.

d-null 09-27-2009 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16365640)
Thanks. yeah, you got us. Our master plan has been blown. It took nine months of intense planning to steal that $ 280, and now you've blown the case wide open.

I was joking there, it was too easy :1orglaugh

no hard feelings

AlphaSky 09-27-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16365645)
I was joking there, it was too easy :1orglaugh

no hard feelings

no offense taken....I was just being sarcastic as well.

I don't think much will come of this thread. But who knows, in the weeks and months ahead, if other affiliates get screwed over in the same fashion a pattern might be detected. Something that reflects the slow decline of sales. We are the first to get it in the ass when sales drop. $ 40 pps for porn that was made in the 80's ??? Come on, too good to be true.

d-null 09-27-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16365663)
no offense taken....I was just being sarcastic as well.

I don't think much will come of this thread. But who knows, in the weeks and months ahead, if other affiliates get screwed over in the same fashion a pattern might be detected. Something that reflects the slow decline of sales. We are the first to get it in the ass when sales drop. $ 40 pps for porn that was made in the 80's ??? Come on, too good to be true.

hopefully someone from PlatinumBucks will see the thread and make a comment on your situation

Agent 488 09-27-2009 08:15 PM

platinum bucks does excellent with warez traffic.

pornpf69 09-27-2009 10:02 PM

any updates?
where are the guys from PB?

After Shock Media 09-27-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16365622)
Nice. Taking the side of Big Brother. I'm shocked.

There was no fraud. We didn't send over fake joins.

Yeah, so in your mind we set up the entire affiliate program, and then waited 9 months later to make $ 280??

If you actually read the thread I am not taking the side of big brother or even PB. I said you probably broke the tos without even thinking about breaking it. As in accidental. Your history has shown that you have missunderstood so many things in this industry it just makes it the most simple answer.

I will make it very simple for you since 280 is nothing to them, and so far they are not to concerned with potential drama from your post. If I was in your shoes and knew for a fact I did nothing wrong, it would only take a couple hours to file a small claims case even if on principle alone. Then you could come back here and post the document if you win, do that and well people may add a few points to what they think about your posting. It only costs 35-75 bucks and you can get that back in court if you win. Think about it.

Davy 09-28-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16364919)
Not sure what to make of the OP but I do know that if I end up getting fucked by a sponsor, I will throw all of my ethics out of the window and I will rip their content until I am compensated for what I have earned.

Do the world a favor. Just die. Now.

Tjeezers 09-28-2009 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 16365962)
Do the world a favor. Just die. Now.

Why, he still has one chance left, that of becoming a traffic seller

Pornopat 09-28-2009 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16366152)
Why, he still has one chance left, that of becoming a traffic seller

That would earn him a spot on their tour catering to surfers....

JayDeeZee 09-28-2009 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornpf69 (Post 16365832)
any updates?
where are the guys from PB?

I think they are at the Amsterdam show.

Marialovesporn 09-28-2009 08:02 AM

You amuse me. You are all bitching about not getting paid for sales you generated. So when you are an affiliate you want your sponsor program to be honest and pay all the sales you send them right. I can understand that. I feel the same ;-) Even though I can not judge this situation with Platinum Bucks ( they have a far far far better reputation than you do, this has to be mentioned ...), you do remind me about some cool one liners you gave me, when I approached you , being an affiliate and wanted to get paid for some sales I send you.
Check it out, in case you have a bad memory ;-)
Quote:

yeah, I remember now. So what? What do you do, go back in the archives trying to find hidden clues on issues that are SO SMALL so that you can "be right" and "we can be wrong?"

WHO CARES?
More can be found in this epic thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...849378&page=15
and this one:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=891680
ohh and dont forget this one ;-)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=914511

So please consider to show some more respect to your affiliates next time, as you state in this thread is of so much value for you, being an affiliate of Platinum Bucks yourself.
:2 cents:

Ravage 09-28-2009 08:04 AM

AlphaSky,

At your earliest convenience, could you please hit me up either via email or ICQ to discuss and resolve this matter.

Thanks,
Chris

EvilFubAr 09-28-2009 09:03 AM

PB are good peeps, and no one is going to release detailed fraud techniques that concern your signups. Im sure they made the right call.

fris 09-28-2009 09:14 AM

PB was one of the first programs I signedup with, along with nastydollars and bangbros

Platinum Kroum 09-28-2009 09:32 AM

Hi AlphaSky,

The account was flagged as fraudulent by our automated fraud screening systems. There were numerous factors that contributed to this, e.g. duplicate sales (not just one), as well as low number of hits. These are signs usually associated with fraud.

We have been in business for 12 years and have always paid all our affiliates on time. Our reputation is rock solid and over the years we have worked with hundreds of thousands of satisfied affiliates and companies worldwide.

Due to the nature of our Free Pass Bucks program, it is highly susceptible to fraud. We do our utmost to screen all accounts flagged so, but due to the sheer volume of transactions sometimes errors and/or misjudgements can occur.

I have now reactivated your account and our accounting dept. will be advised and issue payouts accordingly. Please do not hesitate to contact me directly should you need further support.

Thanks to everyone on GFY for your kind words and support! :)

P.S. Bryan is in Amsterdam for the show and is also taking some personal time off around those dates for travels elsewhere in Europe. This would explain why your e-mails to him went unanswered.

d-null 09-28-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Kroum (Post 16367132)
Hi AlphaSky,

The account was flagged as fraudulent by our automated fraud screening systems. There were numerous factors that contributed to this, e.g. duplicate sales (not just one), as well as low number of hits. These are signs usually associated with fraud.

We have been in business for 12 years and have always paid all our affiliates on time. Our reputation is rock solid and over the years we have worked with hundreds of thousands of satisfied affiliates and companies worldwide.

Due to the nature of our Free Pass Bucks program, it is highly susceptible to fraud. We do our utmost to screen all accounts flagged so, but due to the sheer volume of transactions sometimes errors and/or misjudgements can occur.

I have now reactivated your account and our accounting dept. will be advised and issue payouts accordingly. Please do not hesitate to contact me directly should you need further support.

Thanks to everyone on GFY for your kind words and support! :)

P.S. Bryan is in Amsterdam for the show and is also taking some personal time off around those dates for travels elsewhere in Europe. This would explain why your e-mails to him went unanswered.

:thumbsup

BradM 09-28-2009 09:47 AM

Dear Alphasky,
I hope you die.

Sincerely,
Everyone who has ever gotten to know you.

pornpf69 09-28-2009 11:48 AM

As we already knew PB got things sorted out... did Alpha Sky sort things out for all his affiliates?

Johny Traffic 09-28-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marialovesporn (Post 16366850)
You amuse me. You are all bitching about not getting paid for sales you generated. So when you are an affiliate you want your sponsor program to be honest and pay all the sales you send them right. I can understand that. I feel the same ;-) Even though I can not judge this situation with Platinum Bucks ( they have a far far far better reputation than you do, this has to be mentioned ...), you do remind me about some cool one liners you gave me, when I approached you , being an affiliate and wanted to get paid for some sales I send you.
Check it out, in case you have a bad memory ;-)


More can be found in this epic thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...849378&page=15
and this one:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=891680
ohh and dont forget this one ;-)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=914511

So please consider to show some more respect to your affiliates next time, as you state in this thread is of so much value for you, being an affiliate of Platinum Bucks yourself.
:2 cents:

quoted so people remember what a fat stupid piece of shit this cunt really is :thumbsup

O MARINA 09-28-2009 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16362980)
Anybody else getting fucked over by Platinum Bucks?




NO - never

AaliyahLove 09-28-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marialovesporn (Post 16366850)
You amuse me. You are all bitching about not getting paid for sales you generated. So when you are an affiliate you want your sponsor program to be honest and pay all the sales you send them right. I can understand that. I feel the same ;-) Even though I can not judge this situation with Platinum Bucks ( they have a far far far better reputation than you do, this has to be mentioned ...), you do remind me about some cool one liners you gave me, when I approached you , being an affiliate and wanted to get paid for some sales I send you.
Check it out, in case you have a bad memory ;-)


More can be found in this epic thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...849378&page=15
and this one:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=891680
ohh and dont forget this one ;-)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=914511

So please consider to show some more respect to your affiliates next time, as you state in this thread is of so much value for you, being an affiliate of Platinum Bucks yourself.
:2 cents:


in other words.. Karma is a bitch? or What goes around comes around?

Loch 09-28-2009 02:01 PM

Damn Kroum, i heard that you were now a VP of PB...congrats are way over due :)

Marialovesporn 09-28-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 16368114)
in other words.. Karma is a bitch? or What goes around comes around?

:2 cents:

spazlabz 09-28-2009 02:25 PM

same PC does not equal same CC#
you might see unfair program and they might see carder ripping them off


spaz

AlphaSky 09-28-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Kroum (Post 16367132)
Hi AlphaSky,

.........I have now reactivated your account and our accounting dept. will be advised and issue payouts accordingly. Please do not hesitate to contact me directly should you need further support.........

Thanks to everyone on GFY for your kind words and support! :)

P.S. Bryan is in Amsterdam for the show and is also taking some personal time off around those dates for travels elsewhere in Europe. This would explain why your e-mails to him went unanswered.

Thank you very much for your response and for resolving this matter. :thumbsup Please know that we never sent in fraudulent sign ups and we do feel victim to consumer(s) that take advantage of the free sign up programs with Platinum via our affiliate program. I do thank you again for resolving this matter and honoring our prior sales.

We hereby rescind and apologize for any comments and or allegations that were made, in anger, against Platinum Bucks.

Best,
Alpha Sky Productions

pornpf69 09-28-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16368141)
Damn Kroum, i heard that you were now a VP of PB...congrats are way over due :)

PB is too good to do that...

NYRangers 09-28-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16365468)
its fun reading u... you actually make a very good shot here

I pop up when I've been drinking. I wake up the next day hoping I made sense. Sometimes I'm spot on.

I have no clue who you are and I've never seen your screen name before. But thanks for giving me a push. Most likely you have an AA meeting to attend to. I'll hopefully see you there.

I'm in Munich!!!! Wasted and more stupid than usual. I most likely will go after someone in the next hour.

NYRangers 09-28-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16365591)
We didn't "sell" to the same customer. Platinum implied that the same customer purchased multiple free sites. There are 8 free sites. In fact, I really don't know what he purchased and which sites because Platinum refuses to disclose the details. They simply terminated us and implied that we commited fraud. It's total bullshit.

I stick to my original theory that they are simply not paying affiliates due to declining sales. The smaller affiliates, which we are in that category, as we only sold 2 or 3 per month, we are the ones to cut off first. It starts off small, cut here, pinch there.... just shave 10% across the board. then, 15%...etc...etc..... Well, they got our $ 280.

Enjoy it Platinum.

It's not total bullshit.

I have to ask you again. Where are you from? Where is "Alpha Sky" from? Come out and tell us. Then let's discuss what we feel is most likely right.

This whole scenario is ridiculous. I have no care in the world about Platinum Bucks but I am tired of this "affiliate" bullshit.

I'm still standing behind the money I will pay. It's just been an issue to get the info that I would love for you to tell this board community.

fmltube 09-28-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16365634)
So you rant on and on in here about how you would steal and rip sites if someone never paid you or attempted to be shady.

Then post that you know of one who isnt crediting for sales.

Then next post say its taken care of. But don't mention any names.

So you go from a crusader to a mute in 2 posts?

What the fuck do you take us for? Idiots?

Because I sent a link to this thread in an additional email Einstein. Perhaps it was coincidence that they were sending me an email when they did but I would wager the link to this thread might have encouraged them.

Still doesn't change my stance. If I ever get ripped off, they could expect the same in return. That said, I hope I never have to cross that line.

NYRangers 09-28-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16368333)
Thank you very much for your response and for resolving this matter. :thumbsup Please know that we never sent in fraudulent sign ups and we do feel victim to consumer(s) that take advantage of the free sign up programs with Platinum via our affiliate program. I do thank you again for resolving this matter and honoring our prior sales.

We hereby rescind and apologize for any comments and or allegations that were made, in anger, against Platinum Bucks.

Best,
Alpha Sky Productions

Who is Alpha Sky Productions???????????????????????????????

I would love to get a name or two behind it. Even if I don't, I want to pay Alpha Sky Productions double/triple or quadruple what they were waiting for.


I'm tired of horseshit calling out a program. I want to call out Alpha Sky Productions.

I might even create a new thread for someone to tell me who they are. PB, hold the payment. My guess is you'll see it's fraud.

LoveSandra 09-28-2009 06:43 PM

so ? ..................

AlphaSky 09-28-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRangers (Post 16368521)
Who is Alpha Sky Productions???????????????????????????????

I would love to get a name or two behind it. Even if I don't, I want to pay Alpha Sky Productions double/triple or quadruple what they were waiting for.


I'm tired of horseshit calling out a program. I want to call out Alpha Sky Productions.

I might even create a new thread for someone to tell me who they are. PB, hold the payment. My guess is you'll see it's fraud.

Who cares who we are?? Who are you? and who cares?

Please don't stalk us and make implications. We need to protect our models, they already get plenty of "stalking fans" via email. Your interest maybe just a business curiosity, but there are hundreds of people out there that may have different intentions. Ask any popular models in the industry and I'm sure they will fill you in.

My name is Leslie and I'm with:

Alpha Sky Productions
P.O. Box 3866
Redondo Beach, CA 90277

I hope that is enough to satisify your current needs.

Please address any further comments to our regular thread:
http://www.gfy.com/it/849378-twin-sister-site-signing-affiliates-20.html
as we will not be writing to this thread any longer. The issue with Platinum has been resolved, let's put a period behind us and move on to some other new and inspiring threads. ;)
L

After Shock Media 09-28-2009 06:57 PM

So Alpha, I take it your promotions for pb was all done inside of your members area right?
If so you really should alert sponsors of such because it will throw flags up all of the time. Especially when members area traffic can convert at 1:2 - 1:5.

Again if this is what you did, just like I said you did not understand something about the way the industry works and got flagged because of it, even though you committed no fraud.

I think you should ask eric or ice to edit the title of this thread at the very least.

spazlabz 09-28-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16368488)
Because I sent a link to this thread in an additional email Einstein. Perhaps it was coincidence that they were sending me an email when they did but I would wager the link to this thread might have encouraged them.

Still doesn't change my stance. If I ever get ripped off, they could expect the same in return. That said, I hope I never have to cross that line.

Looks to me like you already have...
a quick look at your site, seriously this is the first video I clicked on the rest of the one I checked I just moused over (to see if there were any of ours) I found this;

http://www.fmltube.com/videos/Amateu...-Fucking-8528/
video from Beachmodel.com
owned by
http://www.bvbucks.com/index.php

but when I click this link right below it;
Click Here for Full Video
I am taken here;
http://www.gfsmovies.com/index.php?ref=fmltube&pro=main
which is owned by
http://www.niceratios.com/
which you have kindly placed 2 more banners on your page to 2 of their other sites

care to explain?


spaz

fris 09-28-2009 07:09 PM

you need members to have members area traffic

Socks 09-28-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRangers (Post 16368521)
Who is Alpha Sky Productions???????????????????????????????

I would love to get a name or two behind it. Even if I don't, I want to pay Alpha Sky Productions double/triple or quadruple what they were waiting for.


I'm tired of horseshit calling out a program. I want to call out Alpha Sky Productions.

I might even create a new thread for someone to tell me who they are. PB, hold the payment. My guess is you'll see it's fraud.

Rangers a PB rep already chimed in above, apologized, and re-activated his account, plus sent a message to accounting to have him paid out.

Looks like he wasn't cheating.

And AlphaSky.. NYRangers owns a company larger than PB!

JayDeeZee 09-28-2009 08:24 PM

If you aren't promoting Platinumbucks new program FreePassBucks where you can sell free trials and make $40 PPS. Feel free to sign up here.

DBS.US 09-28-2009 08:50 PM

AlphaSky small world, we have the same Post office for our P.O. Boxes,

On Catalina Ave in Redondo Beach?

NYRangers 09-30-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 16368989)
Rangers a PB rep already chimed in above, apologized, and re-activated his account, plus sent a message to accounting to have him paid out.

Looks like he wasn't cheating.

And AlphaSky.. NYRangers owns a company larger than PB!

You know we never went to a game or got a beer.

I dig Kroum and his wannabe Bulgarian sexy ass, but I just have a very very weird feeling about this "company."

Threads like these just get under my skin. A phone call usually resolves things when nothing is suspicious. I get defensive at the open season some people take on companies. The guys next door would have been gone years ago if they weren't treating people right.

Maybe I crossed the line. Maybe I'm even more stupid for bumping this thread. But I get bitchy at accusations from people who seem very suspicious. This company stills seems very suspicious.


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