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fatfoo 02-09-2010 09:21 PM

Yeah, they do that. Stealing content...

KirzenChat 03-19-2010 08:34 AM

what a suprise.... :S

rjDynamic 03-24-2010 05:20 PM

choopa hosts RedTube
 
If that helps :-)

djtomcat 05-13-2010 09:30 AM

Can't believe that these guys are still up

OTerror 05-13-2010 01:30 PM

these sites kill the industry. Why would anyone pay for porn

orangedistrict 05-21-2010 11:22 PM

fuck....

degban 05-22-2010 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lassitor (Post 16384416)
There are a lot of bad myths about using copyrighted content. Some people think that if you use under 30 seconds of someones video or song that you are OK..that is totally wrong! You cannot use anyones copyrighted content without permission for any length of time. So, cutting up a teazer of someones copyrighted material and putting it on my site to sell the full video is technically a violation of the law.

To sue any one of these sites that has stolen content is going to cost about eight grand to just get the ball rolling. However, I suspect that once the initial letters are sent the videos will get pulled and you can settle for the cost of legal fees. Anyone got the balls to do this?

It is very easy to remove material from these websites, we do this on regular basis for our clients, and if some website ignores the notices that gives the producer enough juice to sue them successfully.

LickMyBalls 05-25-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by degban (Post 17164038)
It is very easy to remove material from these websites, we do this on regular basis for our clients, and if some website ignores the notices that gives the producer enough juice to sue them successfully.

Stop spamming for fish and do some actual work.

kjmaster 06-01-2010 08:03 AM

This idea works sometimes, worth trying...

boduzapho 07-12-2010 06:28 AM

Theiving Bastards, there is something you can do..
 
I'm offering this up as free advice from someone (myself) who has been around a very long time.

I have in the past created content delivery applications that make stealing your content very difficult. It involves using a modified video codex that is not available to the public, the one i use is a modified version of a popular video format. Now this does not prevent them from recording you video from a browser, but that is a pain in the butt to do, they would have to want it bad. If they were able to download the video from you they would not be able to play it.

I'm not going to let my secretes completely out of the bag, but if you can read between the lines you can I am sure figure this out for yourselves.

The other option is to NOT use an standard player but custom player that has access to running processes on the host machine that can detect ripping applications. MMO games use this method to stop cheaters. It is not easy to do, but it can be done.

Anyway that's my :2 cents:

Feel free to contact me if you have questions.

LickMyBalls 07-12-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boduzapho (Post 17328349)
I'm offering this up as free advice from someone (myself) who has been around a very long time.

I have in the past created content delivery applications that make stealing your content very difficult. It involves using a modified video codex that is not available to the public, the one i use is a modified version of a popular video format. Now this does not prevent them from recording you video from a browser, but that is a pain in the butt to do, they would have to want it bad. If they were able to download the video from you they would not be able to play it.

I'm not going to let my secretes completely out of the bag, but if you can read between the lines you can I am sure figure this out for yourselves.

The other option is to NOT use an standard player but custom player that has access to running processes on the host machine that can detect ripping applications. MMO games use this method to stop cheaters. It is not easy to do, but it can be done.

Anyway that's my :2 cents:

Feel free to contact me if you have questions.

Dude.. everything you suggest has been brought up before. Read a little.

boduzapho 07-14-2010 08:36 AM

No offense, but I'm not going to spend a week reading this entire board for like posts, in this thread it was NOT brought up, so I did.

It is very sound advice.

Jack Sparrow 07-14-2010 09:15 AM

Some tubes have full videos you know. People seem to love them.

aubreythree 07-16-2010 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjmaster (Post 17196287)
This idea works sometimes, worth trying...

yeah, it might worth a try

Smokieflame 07-22-2010 11:07 PM

Fuck lawyers, fuck the legal system. What have they done for porn lately even tho we HAVE to pay our fucking taxes!!! What we should do is get mid-evil on these bitches!! All band together, hire an A-Team like squad and send them to these fuckers houses!!! a few good beatings would do some good I bet. Go steal all there shit too, see how they fucking like it.

It kills people like me the most, I dont make tons of money off my content, I make my own stuff, and when my content ends up on tube sites (which it has many times) i really lose out. I dont have the money to pay for the pricey bulldog security to have a chance at my stuff not being stolen, i dont have a super smart webmaster either dont have a webmaster at that right now.

I dont see why you guys who have HUGE programs and bring in several million a year dont do something about this. Its not like you guys arent effected by it too. I have seen some new stuff from some major programs on tube sites, stuff that is as old as 1 week.

What would it take for people to band together and make a class action lawsuit against Brazzers and other LARGER tube sites? Not like we cant find out who they are and where they are hosting at. Hell even tho I am far form rich I would toss some of my money towards a class suit, if everyone else did the same maybe we could make a difference on our own!!!

marcorandazza 08-01-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17356942)
Fuck lawyers, fuck the legal system. What have they done for porn lately even tho we HAVE to pay our fucking taxes!!! What we should do is get mid-evil on these bitches!! All band together, hire an A-Team like squad and send them to these fuckers houses!!! a few good beatings would do some good I bet. Go steal all there shit too, see how they fucking like it.

It kills people like me the most, I dont make tons of money off my content, I make my own stuff, and when my content ends up on tube sites (which it has many times) i really lose out. I dont have the money to pay for the pricey bulldog security to have a chance at my stuff not being stolen, i dont have a super smart webmaster either dont have a webmaster at that right now.

I dont see why you guys who have HUGE programs and bring in several million a year dont do something about this. Its not like you guys arent effected by it too. I have seen some new stuff from some major programs on tube sites, stuff that is as old as 1 week.

What would it take for people to band together and make a class action lawsuit against Brazzers and other LARGER tube sites? Not like we cant find out who they are and where they are hosting at. Hell even tho I am far form rich I would toss some of my money towards a class suit, if everyone else did the same maybe we could make a difference on our own!!!

As a lawyer who has dedicated his career to assisting clients in the adult industry, I can tell you definitively that *this lawyer* has done plenty for his clients when it comes to piracy. You just have to know a) the law and b) some VERY simple tech issues.

Banding together is a VERY good idea. What you really ought to do is have a "ripoff site of the week" that everyone checks for their content, and bombs the site's web host with DMCA notices on it. Then, everyone post the DMCA notices so that one of the bigger companies can use all of them as evidence against the web host for failing to cut off a repeat infringer.

The only strategy that will work is attacking the web hosts.

Go to whois.sc and check the registration information. Then click the tab that says "server stats." That will tell you who the web host is. Keep in mind that a well-trafficked tube site makes a web host about $10,000 (at least) per month in hosting fees (and many are upwards of $50,000 or more). So, you need to make it not worth their while to keep hosting the theft site. One person can't do that on their own.


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yabate 08-01-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16714790)
You don't just use FMS, you use FMS along with some backend scripting, and you CAN stop your shit from being downloaded. I've tested it against every known software available that downloads streaming vids...including the hardest one to stop of them all: Replay Media. You're not being accurate when you say it's been "busted" FMS in and of itself was never meant to stop you from downloading a stream. It does make it tougher. But using it in conjunction with a lot of backend work is extremely effective.

If you have any video served by FMS, i would like to test it.

HB|Sergio 08-13-2010 03:21 AM

All tubes must be closed :\

damnage 08-19-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HB|Sergio (Post 17412185)
All tubes must be closed :\

Wake up and smell the coffee, the era of simply paying for porn is over.


Tubes can still work in producers favour though. If a decent video is make of a hot chick getting seduced and just as its getting good stops, you will get sales.

The sales are being lost by the tubes giving away the whole video.


The compromise is that the tubes need to start limiting the full videos whether peacefully (They find an acceptable business model) or in a hostile manner (lawsuits and what not) and start giving limited access.


Don't get me started on pirated material, thats a real swine.

2intense 08-19-2010 11:23 AM

i agree,all tubes must be closed,they fuck up adult industry :mad::mad::mad:

urlhammer 10-27-2010 05:25 AM

I think the guy that owns tube8 owns videobash, they seem to have a permanent advertising campaign on tube8 now that seems fishy. I talked to the owner of video bash one day and his English was broken up very poor. I think it's the same owner of the other tubes.

Half man, Half Amazing 10-27-2010 10:36 PM

tube8, spankwire, extremetube, keezmovies are all owned by Manwich aka the Brazzers Network of Criminal Activity.

foosball is for fags

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webmax 11-05-2010 10:56 PM

You need to hire this guy Rick from removeyourcontent.com

chazzKorvex 11-07-2010 12:19 PM

Is it 100 percent the tube sites fault or retards stealing content and uploading it to the Tube site? I say go after some of the retards too ;)

mvc333 03-17-2011 12:53 AM

DVDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16660190)
This encryption tool is called Adobe Media Server, costs under 1 grand.

As a DVD distributor I can say nearly every studio wants to get their stuff on DVD for at least incremental income so... protecting your streams won't help so much if people can just rip a dvd

Baicuk 03-29-2011 07:51 AM

like so
 
Of course, these sites violate the law, but look on the other hand, is a platform for increasing the ranking of sites, so this is a powerful tool for promotion.

ScrollDog 07-01-2014 03:24 PM

Strange face about the majority of the largest tube sites in the world that are stealing your content... They are all primarily owned by one company, and that company funded the beloved StopFileLockers (AdultKing) movement which is found here on GFY.

Do you find it a bit hypocritical?

Robbie 07-01-2014 04:18 PM

Nope. Adult King isn't "funded" by them. They donated to his cause.

I find it hypocritical for someone like you to try to attack a person who is the ONLY guy who has ever accomplished anything against piracy.

I'm putting you on "ignore" now because you are obviously not in this business.

AdultKing 07-02-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20144200)
Nope. Adult King isn't "funded" by them. They donated to his cause.

I find it hypocritical for someone like you to try to attack a person who is the ONLY guy who has ever accomplished anything against piracy.

Scrolldog/Richard Humphrey/To0 is a convicted pirate who did federal prison for piracy, he's also a convicted child sex offender amongst other things who recently did another stint in prison for parole violation - he'll be going back, it's just a matter of time.

Manwin/MindGeek provided some initial contributions to the project but withdrew that support last year. However that hasn't stopped us pursuing infringements on their properties. The people in our collaboration system are constantly dealing with infringements on tubes owned by many companies and we process them just like any other DMCA that goes to infringements@

Our concentration has been on file lockers because that's a big enough problem in itself, much more of a problem than tubes.

We currently have the following numbers of targets:

File Lockers: 737 sites
Tubes: 116 sites
Torrent Trackers: 409

The interesting thing about this is that if we remove torrents this is the breakdown chart taken directly from our back end systems:

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...cker-chart.jpg

Looking at that, it's not hard to see why Scrolldog is screaming blue murder. He is actively involved at WJunction which supports many file locker sites. He also associates with Rudy Corella of UltraMegaBit and Stephen Adami of the now failed OTEUpload.

Devostator 08-19-2014 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16450161)
Why would google give a shit, if paysite owners themselves do not give a shit and never send them proper DMCAs.

:bigears

DMRC 01-15-2015 08:07 PM

The video looks removed now. That's good at least.

WDRockstar 01-29-2015 01:55 AM

Maybe that's one of the reasons they built their tube site... its no different from the other webmasters who owns a forum where you can upload private pics to. After a year they'll launch a new paysite depending on how much content they've already gotten from their subscribers :D


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