good job tical - i think quantum-x has posted his own crude way of watermarking video and photo content tying it to the member who downloaded it originally.

the problem with this solution is that if you wanted to go after this member for copyright infringement all you really have is proof that the member downloaded the video to his own computer - if you don't have more evidence that points to him uploading to a tube or rapidshare you probably don't win. if every time that file got moved around it got tagged with IP address then you'd have a smoking gun - proof the member not only downloaded it from the members area but also proof he distributed it from his computer.

and that's where i think the only success will ever come in this battle, suing the pants off people and winning.

the string would obviously be encrypted before it was written to the video

if the string is just a record number, like 434 for example. there would be no privacy concerns even if it was able to be decrypted, and this record id could be looked up in the owners database.

essentially, we're doing exactly what you suggested :)

yea that could be tough, but ip addresses are linked to computers when leased out by isps... so in theory, the connection to the content being downloaded to their computer is there

legally, i dont know how far a lawsuit could go in that regard... that would be for a lawyer to figure out

yes and no
there is no way to clip out steg.
it not even visable

it what my remove your content solution uses. It happens to be for software so we are talking about compiler plugin that does the encoding into the executable but it does allow you to identify applications that are yours automagically from simple download of an rss feed.

when you combine it with a private tracker, it very effective in getting the torrent pulled.

thats the problem with video though, the bytes, encoding, length, etc can all be changed, cropped, downsized, etc and the media can still be viewable.

this is as close as you're going to get to a fingerprint system for electronic media like this... there might be variants in the future, but they will all work on the image or audio - not the raw data

could your software overwrite watermarks..

meaning lets say badguy who owns a site.. gets your software.. and than uses it on their tubes sites to overwrite waterwarks of uploaded videos.

or use it to detect other ppl watermarks on videos and clean them up..

Seems like a very specialized technique that could be effective

Fucking slick tical.

go thru the link i gave you
your wrong about what your saying
if the footprint of data is small enough each frame can be taged with the steg. data
be completely hidden in the whitespace, background and still stay there no matter what changes you make in formating.
it not script kiddie stuff but it is definately doeable.

that being said you still have the fair use problem to deal with, if the action is protected by fair use then your attempt to stop it are still censorship and actionable.

you can't TOS away fair use, because of the conditional nature of fair use.

You have to create an economic consequence that is independent of the fair use rights.
private trackers do this by forcing the uploaders to explain why they are choosing a less effective backup solution (public tracker) over the more effective (private tracker) and causing economic harm (lost seeders, non paying copies) to do it.

Fifty invisible to the naked eye watermarks.

Excellent tool tical you have there, I'm 100% positive it'll do incredibely well in the market. Can't wait to start using that service.

By no means we as an industry should regard this as our one and the only anti-piracy tool to rely upon, but in addition to all other methods, this could be one of the most effective weapons in our anti-piracy arsenal.

We'll be ordering this the day it hits the market.

Now that's yet another brilliant, amazing idea in this thread!

Crawler that spiders all known shitholes like tubes torrents etc and looks for watermarks, then just sends you the report, probably with DMCAs already prepaired and ready to be sent for each URL with one click after some manual checking... That's would be AWESOME.

I spend lots of time in the trenches of anty-piracy war, but it is an uphill battle - tool like that is what I DREAM of having every single day of my life.

Actually, tical's thing is such a good an idea exactly because it allows such crawling - going after member legally with that kinda proof... dunno (though you may take other actions like blocking offending IPs etc which is going to help anyway) - one of the main problems is simply finding your content, it takes lots of time and effort but no matter how hard you try still lots of it flying around. If something will simply crawl all the known content thiving shitholes daily and send you a report of what it finds... That would help ALOT.

Ideally, I'd be a subscription based service with the centralized database, so clients wouldn't have to run the crawler themselves, just to pay a monthly fee to some one who would - they'd also keep track of the infringing sites, add new ones as they pop up, work on bypassing any anti-spider defence scumbags may develop in the future etc ect.

Each subscriber of this service would add the name of the program to the watermark (and whatever other info they want, encypted or not, doesn't matter at this point) so the crawler would know what account to alert when it finds matches.

I'll be the first and the most loyal subscriber of this service for sure...

Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you see the potential here (especially when combined with a spider, etc).

Right now the primary application is just in an early beta. I won't be able to develop this much more (let alone market an entire solution) without some kind of backing / partner though.

All of this is totally possible, the hardest parts have been tackled already. It does what it is supposed to do!



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