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If you want to accept shittier traffic, you need to setup your own merchant relations - I don't know too many billers willing to pull down their pants at the prospect of an extra few bucks a day. |
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now that ive said my peace about the thread, i see that you have your sites in your signature, ill make sure that the ccbill fraud guys look at your decline rate and so forth and get in communication with you about it, if your seeing numbers that are higher than other processors you are suing, that’s a concern for us and well certainly check it out and get back to you
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Straying from the topic a bit, but does it irk anyone else that he keeps hitting return after each sentence?
I think it's weird. It's kinda odd. I haven't seen many people do it. Dial is right it looks like poetry. |
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Besides, some of their customer support girls sound HOT! :) :) :) Keep up the great work Mark - it's TOTALLY appreciated on my end!! |
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If you think long-term think ccbill. Simple as that.
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ccbill rocks
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over fitty ccbilly....maybe thats why they will be around for a long time! ...
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5 perfectly valid credit cards, all active and not blocked or anything ... cant get a single one past ccbill.
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cascaded billing will fix these issues up.
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These threads make me laugh.
In my opinion, CCBill lets through a lot more shit that it should stop from common sense than good cards that it does stop and shouldn't. |
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If they have to issue you either one, you are black listed. Or that card, and e-mail address is. I remember joining a site 4-5 years ago to check it out. It had some content from a few models who had done work for my company. Anyway, the whole membership area was down. Broken links, nothing working, couldn't download shit. Hit up the webmaster. No reply. Hit them up again. Nada. Tried to track them down anyway I could, no answer. Contacted CCB for refund. Refused. I explained whole site not working. They did not care. Escalated to manager. Refused. I showed them numerous attempt to resolve, and contact owner, refund denied. Threatened charge back, refund issued. Black listed. :2 cents: |
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Also, as others pointed out. My rebills are off the hook with CCB. EASILY two or three to 1 (if not higher) compared to Verotel and Zombaio. Verotel is the best, in my experience for rebills. CCB the worst. Keep in mind that I rarely have a charge back, or refund on my sites. If it's even 1 every two months I would be surprised. So I do not wanna hear any scrubber full blast excuses based on high charge backs. While it may apply to many BROgrams with their cross sales. It would not apply in my case. |
CCbill and pretty much EVERY SINGLE ONE of their employees that I have met are some of the only and individually and as a group probably the most trusted people I know in this business.
they are solid. as for scrubbing - yeah they are a little tighter but I prefer that as less charge backs and GUESS WHAT - if they don't get the sale their IN HOUSE SYSTEM ALLOWS cascading - that kinda like saying - sorry - can we help you to take this person to someone else to see if you can monetize the person with another company? |
also what I LOVE about them is they don't hide from posts like this and you got a CCbill VISE PRESIDENT posting in this thread.
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probably the top most solid processors today ;- )
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While no longer my top choice in processor for my cascade. They are the industry leader. That said, they.. like ALL PROCESSORS... have their quirks, hang ups, issues. Each one does some thing that some one doesn't like. Whether it is CCB's $15 WIRE fees, never paying early, or scrubbing full blast. Or Verotel's ancient back end and affiliate program, or Zomabio's lack of good affiliate program or 24 hour answer to support tickets. Each has their good, and bad, sticking points for people. That can be said about almost ANY company in, or out, of adult online. :2 cents: |
ccbill has never disputed the fact that they scrub the most. They are just the most careful. But you have to have them in your cagade, and they are a great company. I don't think you can find one bad thing about them. Their support is great, and they solid. FYI most declines are by bank denials. Several times I took complete scrubbing off my gateway, and stuff was still getting scrubbed like mad. I joined my own site to test wtf was going on, and my phone rang. BOA calling to see if my card was stolen. That's where your declines are comming from.
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Maybe it's time to try something new?
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Question: When CCBill owes you money, how much do you worry about the check coming or the check clearing?
Answer: Zero Percent. When you bill with some new company that started up an hour ago and *seems to* be a better deal.... and then a few months later that new company is nowhere to be found and your money is gone.... THAT is the decline that matters most. :2 cents: P.S. - Your thread title sucks... but you must have already known that |
Great responses by corvette in this thread :thumbsup
I do very much trust CCBill, but it probably is worth it to cascade billing... I've been CCBill-only for years. I'll be interested to see the results from a nicely setup cascade. :pimp |
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CCBILL is the best simply because it has the largest network of adult pay sites. and this says it all
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I always sign up to sponsors I push. As an affiliate I don't want to push shit. My cards have never been declined...
(I would love to slap a Mikey's GIF here saying "Honey! It's for work!) |
Here, corrected that for you.
I've been getting results from a/b tests and ccbill is constantly behind the rest Of all the bilers in the industry, they have highest decline I see. they once supported the whole porn nation but now I see cracks in their foundation don't take my word for it, of course. i recommend to all programs change your biller and see who's strong. .. and let me know, if I'm wrong. |
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We just have to be more proactive and tell the member on processing what happened. I bet some would call the bank, but most probably won't for various reasons. |
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http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/914927-newbies-history-ibill-short-version.html |
Meh... forget credit card billing ..mobile phone billing is the way to go
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No wonder signup ratios are bad, close to NOTHING in my case. 1:8000k 1:10000K 1:20 000k etc... I've lost 50% of my revenues so far this year. No matter what i do, it's still going down. :Oh crap |
Haha, its simple - over time ccbill builds a database of people who are fraudelent, or friendly fraud etc.
I do not think it heavily screws with the bottom line at the end of the day. Do you really want refunds and chargebacks coming in months later? Nah. |
Another thing to track is rejected countries, or countries CCBILL isn't prominent in. People go with whos comfortable - consider using GEOIP with specific rules. I could suggest some cascades to help.
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ccbill is also still in business, unlike a lot of others
i <3 ccbill |
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Although, to their credit, 3 years after they lost Mastercard and Visa, they finally paid out what they owed us. |
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