Globill who are up and running again as Globill.net

Anyone using any of these companies is an obvious retard and deserves everything that happens to them when their so called new company goes down the shitter

i got busy working on some shit, i come back and somehow this thread is still alive. gfy is definitely lame these days if this thread keeps bumping lol

anyways i stopped bumping it because i talked to mark/corvette on email.

they pulled a bunch of numbers and stats that i didnt believe. like 1 brand new site on Porn CMS that had 500 join form hits in September, only 70 submits and no declines. according to ccbill it had a 100% approval rate for those form posts. amazing.

after i talked to mark, suddenly there were about 5 declines in a few days.

to combat the craziness i wrote a script that switches to commercegate if there hasn't been a sale in 6 hours. after the switch there is always a sale within an hour or 2. then it flips back to ccbill, waits 6 hours, switches to cg, then another sale.

its even worse on the weekends. one of my veteran friends told me that ccbill (like all billers) has a limited number of sales they can put thru to their bank in a business day. once the bank limit is hit, all other sales are declined. so he said ccbill reserves a huge chunk of sales for its biggest clients. these days the banks are allowing less transactions, so the smaller fish eat even less.

ever see a zero sale sunday? very fishy. my 6/hr switch script is the only thing stopping it on that new site.

protect yourself and your sales. cascading doesnt happen if ccbill doesnt report or redirect the decline. more aggressive measures are required these days to ensure constant sales.

10 years watching this biz i've never seen times like this. i have a good vantage point monitoring over 100 sites on Porn CMS. i'm just reporting what i'm seeing thru my pessimistic eyes.

Well that's quite the retort... is there any truth to this?

Wow... this thread is amazing, and I cant wait for a response on this new accusation...

This was the best answer in this whole thread. THANK YOU!!!
You would think everyone does that nowadays.

Thats what cascades are for :P

wow what a bunch of BS! I am no where near a big fish and I see sales day in and day out (never 6 hours without a sale haha). Just because your site doesn't sell don't bash the best billing company out there.

:1orglaugh

You said rebills are off the hook with ccbill, but then said they are the worst for rebills.

Just wanting to clarify because im working with both ccbill and zombaio right now. Only running through 2 sales per day or so because the site isnt even released yet but interested for future info.

Exactly if you really think ccbill is declining people and not passing them onto the cascade you can put the other biller before ccbill and have them cascade to ccbill with the ccbill cascade system

i monitor lots of different sites, each with varying degrees of success. the site i did the "6 hour" test with has steady traffic from the same sources but wild fluctuations in conversion. the test showed *me* that ccbill declines are out of hand.

there's a lot of intelligent people on gfy and in this industry. i am just sharing what i have found out through conversations and experiments. hopefully we can get a clear picture of whats going on.

glad u are so rich tho. hope u get your Geo paid off soon.

Thanks...I give feedback as it is needed...

No, not in years....And that's strange for someone who can look over 1000 joins.....However, good feedback lol...

I remember about 5 years ago pulling up a bunch of numbers and looking into declines on my site because some guy had posted how decline rates were like the most important thing for a webmaster to focus on. I can't recall what the exact numbers were but after looking into it I realized this guy was full of shit (at least with regards to my site/situation). The declines for my site were insignificant. If I could reduce my declines by half it would add only pennies to my bottom line each month. I haven't given the slightest thought to declines since then and don't plan to now. There are far more important things for a webmaster to track and manage. I think a webmaster fixating on declines is like a brick and mortar store owner fixating on cracks in the sidewalk in front of his store.

Been with CCBill for 8 years and have never been happier.

Put Epoch in your cascade!

the zero sunday was on ONE site. obviously.
matt's models gets a sale every few minutes.

interpret how u want tho. thats what gfy is all about!

Yes, yes and yes. Or, 'true dat' (as the kidz say). Cascading often does the trick, as I've stated over and over, but ponying up ANOTHER $750 to Visa is what deters most people, methinks. THAT and the fact that it took me three fucking WEEKS to get all the cascading between companies working right. THE GOOD NEWS: The cascading paid for itself in two weeks.

True dat indeed!

ABSOLUTELY! Jersey Pride 'cause we have our heads on straight. Heh.

Thread title is out of line.

why dont you do cascade billing? and rotate the first biller every other week to spead risk. I have one biller that doesnt rebill, its bizarre. i get 25% rebills and my otehr ones i get way more. also i think they turn up scrubbing when they near a 3% cb rate. once that gets below 2.5% or 2% they remove it. pure speculation though.

I think all billers are declining like crazy right now, it might be the banks.

Hunert WTFS!??!?!

You're right.
For my program, Epoch is billing 60% of the CCBill decines, the rest are scammers or have no money on their accounts.

You should compare with a merchant...the declines aren't everything, there are other factors, too, like how fast the join page loads, how easy/complicated it is, etc. Anyone with a merchant, how much better are your sales compared to 3rd party? 30, 50, 100% better?

the thing which bothers me is that ccbill avoids direct answers on almost all direct questions which make sense at some point asked on the board
all the time :disgust:mad:

use Epoch, they are the best :)))

but I personally think this is bullshit and processors will never decline any good sales.
We compared 3 different processors for the same site for a week and we didn't see any big difference in sales. One of the processors is very new and for sure can't reach his limits now.

i can tell you 100% that if ccbill had sales that they would have to otherwise decline (not make their 13% on) because they had a "limit on the number of sales they can process per day" they would move heaven and earth to figure out how to get them processed and ccbill probably has more pull than anyone else in this biz to be able to do that.

if you can figure out how to get a jet, you can figure out how to process money people are throwing at you

We are all set up with CCbill to accept their declines. Feel free to contact me if you are interested : )

BTW: I think CCbill is a great company, I would continue trusting their services!

The economy is in the shitter, credit card companies are cancelling accounts left and right and cutting credit lines of pretty much all the remainings open accounts.

What you need is to use cascade billings and make sure you cover all your bases.
Credit cards, debit card, euro card, euro debit, phone and sms, online checks and if you have the manpower, I would even offer mail in checks.

Times are tough and you cannot afford to leave any money on the table, and of course if you want to cover yourself with global phone and SMS, then you just need to contact me :thumbsup

word mail in check orders for the win!

Haven't made a sale in a few days, I've had slow sales days but this is just depressing

God,
Thanks for the laugh.
Peace :Oh crap

My conversions with ccbill are WAYYYY down. I promote a nats powered program with cascade billing, for the last 2 years it's been roughly 65% epoch / 35% ccbill signups. Nothing has changed and since the beginning of Oct. it's been 100% Epoch sign-ups, (and obviously overall sales are down). Also, programs I promote through the ccbill affiliate programs are down 80% since late Sept.

However, that's really not conclusive evidence of anything. It could just be a sign of the times with the recession, banks, credit card companies, etc.

You can't fucking speak with that ibill avatar, break your ribs and eat your own dick twink. At least CCbill is an honest company that would never fuck anyone over. I bet they will get this sorted out and continue to be the best billing solution.

If gfy is "lame these days" it's because of people like you who put up lame thread titles like this one.

Tell me "ccbill fucks an industry" wasn't a lame attempt at drama. Yet you're now seriously here wondering why the thread stirred up a reaction and got bumped? Dude, please. :upsidedow

Hmm... I just ran a report for the year, and total count for declines was 12.57% on ccbill. That is both declined new signups and declined re-bills together. Seems like a low enough number. But, you got my curiosity up so I went on...

The exact period last year (2008) was 11.78%
2007 10.91%
2006 11.06%
2005 11.04%
2004 12.20%
2003 10.22%
2002 3.13% (The year I started with ccbill) had Ibill as my main at the time... :(

Then I combined all those years together... for an average decline rate of 10.68%

Now, while having the $121,891.70 Of added income lost from the declines would have been great The numbers do look pretty constant. All this is on my ONE site. giving me an pretty good view of history over the last 8 years billing with Ccbill.

I've been burned by Ibill, Paymode Myvirtualcard. Lets say for the sake of argument that at the time they where around their decline rate WAS lower... Add on what they took from me in the end and what do you think lost income % really was?

I'll stick with Ccbill.

I had a similar feeling for a while now for some other processors but I can't say anything about CCBill, beside that I heared such "rumors" a couple times already

I keep seeing this thread bumped to the front. I remember reading and perhaps posting some on the 1st page.

Knowing that CCbill has nothing to hide and would let this continue on for awhile without asking for it to be deleted.

Does this thread contain much of anything worth reading from the 1st through the 2nd pages? Or is my time better spent ignoring it? I mean I do already see some stupid posts on page 3.

me thinks the guy who poeted this thread got OWNED big time

I know i'm bumping it.. but this thread is mostly retarded.

"(like all billers) has a limited number of sales they can put thru to their bank in a business day. "

This scares me. Anybody have info on that statement? I'm gonna Google for banking info.

It would be nice to hear from a real banker on the inner workings.