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thx for the data, Gerco

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 16538478)

Hmm... I just ran a report for the year, and total count for declines was 12.57% on ccbill. That is both declined new signups and declined re-bills together. Seems like a low enough number. But, you got my curiosity up so I went on...

The exact period last year (2008) was 11.78%
2007 10.91%
2006 11.06%
2005 11.04%
2004 12.20%
2003 10.22%
2002 3.13% (The year I started with ccbill) had Ibill as my main at the time... :(

Then I combined all those years together... for an average decline rate of 10.68%

Now, while having the $121,891.70 Of added income lost from the declines would have been great The numbers do look pretty constant. All this is on my ONE site. giving me an pretty good view of history over the last 8 years billing with Ccbill.

I've been burned by Ibill, Paymode Myvirtualcard. Lets say for the sake of argument that at the time they where around their decline rate WAS lower... Add on what they took from me in the end and what do you think lost income % really was?

I'll stick with Ccbill.

if ccbill's fucking people I'm bending over

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 16463090)

...... cascading doesnt happen if ccbill doesnt report or redirect the decline. more aggressive measures are required these days to ensure constant sales.

This scares me too.

I dont think that CCBill makes a whole lot when they have to decline a transaction. So think about it that way. Think Ron wants to lose his company either way?? I dont, I think they and most of the processors are doing the right thing.

I did a test signup with my own credit card which has NEVER had a chargeback, is from the US, the mailing address was correct and everything was perfect, and I got denied.
Go figure!

what's the option, Epoch?

interesting, no more comments, questions or answers.

I'm pretty shaken up with the accusations made and was hoping to hear more about it.

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16542346)

"(like all billers) has a limited number of sales they can put thru to their bank in a business day. "
This scares me. Anybody have info on that statement? I'm gonna Google for banking info.
It would be nice to hear from a real banker on the inner workings.

That would mean all merchant accounts have a limited number of transactions they could do per day through Visa and MasterCard. Not just CCbill. I have had a personal merchant account a few times myself and even had one for both Discover Card and American Express - oh and Diners card too. I read every page of the manual each time that I got such a merchant account.
The only restrictions I ever saw were for something called a rolling reserve. I suppose if your reserve was not high enough you could not go past a set amount (not sure 100%). Issue is, that would be next to impossible because reserves are a percentage of your total sales and if that were the case then any smart person would just increase their reserves to keep making money.

Example - Imagine total number of transactions and a store like the 99 cent store or lets get more extreme. Imagine the havoc of a hot dog or beer stand at a major ballpark being limited to a set number of transactions. Pretty damn sure they do more transactions per hour than many billers may do in a day.

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 16542459)

I did a test signup with my own credit card which has NEVER had a chargeback, is from the US, the mailing address was correct and everything was perfect, and I got denied.
Go figure!

Question since you say it is from the US. Are you located in the US right now or are you in Mexico?

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 16546242)

interesting, no more comments, questions or answers.
I'm pretty shaken up with the accusations made and was hoping to hear more about it.

I responded.
I am more curious why nobody responded to me :Oh crap

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16404940)

And on top of that, the name on the card was female...

WHAT IN THE FUCK is up with that shit???

Epic fail explained.....

I don't know how it's now, but at least up to 2 years ago, the "ultrascrubbing" came from Paycom (they simply banned entire countries) with CCBill quite better than Paycom. However, as much hate as it gets (I'm kinda out fo the loop with that, so no idea why), the best biller in terms of approval/renewals was Verotel. Again, no idea how it is now, but the previous testing I ran for 3-4 years shown me that. Maybe that changed.

On a side note, to plsrking: do you spy on your CMS client's? if not, how do you monitor it?

and btw, the thread title is way out of line :Oh crap