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SomeCreep 10-21-2009 01:27 PM

Tnaflix.com owns a multitude of tube sites, including empflix.com and moviefap.com. They're located offshore and just about every aspect of their business is bullet proof. They are making millions from stolen content, so they won't be stopping anytime soon.

mvee 10-21-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16451951)
wouldn;t that be a great thread twister?

It's true i meet them in LA

[email protected]

Nautilus 10-21-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 16452039)
Tnaflix.com owns a multitude of tube sites, including empflix.com and moviefap.com. They're located offshore and just about every aspect of their business is bullet proof. They are making millions from stolen content, so they won't be stopping anytime soon.

But their servers are not offshore, right? I believe there should be a copyright law in Netherlands, they're part of the Western world after all. We just need to find their hosting provider and put some pressure on them.

I have some connections in Netherlands and can even get local lawyers to send some scare letters etc - provided they do not have their own version of DMCA of course, that covers them hosting thieving sites and they do not give a fuck.

CYF 10-21-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16452112)
But their servers are not offshore, right? I believe there should be a copyright law in Netherlands, they're part of the Western world after all. We just need to find their hosting provider and put some pressure on them.

It looks like they're hosted in the Netherlands. They seem to be their own host with their own datacenter and their own ip range and ASN.

EuroAccess.nl is one of their upstream transit providers. Looks like they have 3 upstream providers:

ASN Name
20495 WEDARE
34305 EUROACCESS
38930 FIBERRING

FreeHugeMovies 10-21-2009 01:53 PM

Fuck up them!

Luscious Media 10-21-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 16452039)
Tnaflix.com owns a multitude of tube sites, including empflix.com and moviefap.com. They're located offshore and just about every aspect of their business is bullet proof. They are making millions from stolen content, so they won't be stopping anytime soon.

I hope for their sake that their bodies are bullet proof (actually not). There are quite a few people who are getting really tired of their shit and I would imagine a few of those people don't like lawyers either. If you take the bread from someones table they are bound to fight back when they start going hungry.

Nautilus 10-21-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16452130)
It looks like they're hosted in the Netherlands. They seem to be their own host with their own datacenter and their own ip range and ASN.

EuroAccess.nl is one of their upstream transit providers. Looks like they have 3 upstream providers:

ASN Name
20495 WEDARE
34305 EUROACCESS
38930 FIBERRING

That makes things worse... Aside from hiring local lawyers, do not see any other way to influence self-hosted sites.

CYF 10-21-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16452211)
That makes things worse... Aside from hiring local lawyers, do not see any other way to influence self-hosted sites.

You could always try their other two upstream providers, but I suspect you'll get the same answer from them as you got from euroaccess.nl :disgust

CYF 10-21-2009 02:24 PM

The Netherlands is a member of pretty much every copyright treaty. I'm sure there's legal ways to get the content taken down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...t_agreeme nts

Nautilus 10-21-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16452244)
You could always try their other two upstream providers, but I suspect you'll get the same answer from them as you got from euroaccess.nl :disgust

Yep, they'll all use the same bs excuse.

IIRC they've got a restraining order against their upstream providers in the pirate bay case though, and scambags had to search for connectivity elsewhere. But to make that happen we'll need to have local lawyers on it, I doubt any one of them will disconnect the client just because they've got an abuse e-mail.

BFT3K 10-21-2009 02:42 PM

A few face-to-face visits could resolve a lot of the big tube issues that plague this industry.

I don't normally condone violence, but when someone steals your shit, and ruins your livelihood... I'm just sayin....

PAR 10-21-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16451980)
nslookup www.tnaflix.com

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.tnaflix.com
Address: 77.247.179.176

whois 77.247.179.176

OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: P.O. Box 10096
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country: NL

ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43

NetRange: 77.0.0.0 - 77.255.255.255
CIDR: 77.0.0.0/8
NetName: 77-RIPE
NetHandle: NET-77-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC
NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET
NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET
NameServer: NS2.LACNIC.NET
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
Comment: These addresses have been further assigned to users in
Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in
Comment: the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois
RegDate: 2006-08-29
Updated: 2009-05-18

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-10-20 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: This output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '77.247.179.128 - 77.247.179.191'

inetnum: 77.247.179.128 - 77.247.179.191
netname: NFORCE_ENTERTAINMENT
descr: Customer 192 / Transworld Advertising Corporation
descr: Customer 323 / Bouncetek
descr: Customer 510 / YoPlaza
descr: Customer 519 / Clicktorrent
descr: Customer 536 / Youngtek Solutions Limited
country: NL
admin-c: pt3315-ripe
tech-c: pt3315-ripe
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: MNT-NFORCE
mnt-lower: MNT-NFORCE
mnt-routes: MNT-NFORCE
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Pieter Taks
address: Brakesteinlaan 4
address: 4706 WC Roosendaal
address: Netherlands
mnt-by: MNT-NFORCE
phone: +31 165 397263
fax-no: +31 165 397761
nic-hdl: PT3315-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '77.247.176.0/21AS43350'

route: 77.247.176.0/21
descr: NFOrce Entertainment BV - default route
origin: AS43350
mnt-by: MNT-NFORCE
source: RIPE # Filtered

I found an abuse email also: [email protected]

you missed http://hottorrent.net/
Daniel, Oded [email protected]
Daniel, Oded [email protected]
or contact

Arjan Wijnveen
Aalberselanen 7
Woerden
Utrecht
3445 TA
NL
phone: +31620420622
fax:
[email protected]

VIA whois history..

CYF 10-21-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 16452356)
you missed http://hottorrent.net/
Daniel, Oded [email protected]
Daniel, Oded [email protected]
or contact

Arjan Wijnveen
Aalberselanen 7
Woerden
Utrecht
3445 TA
NL
phone: +31620420622
fax:
[email protected]

VIA whois history..

Why would I look up who USED to own it, when the current people are infringing?

LeRoy 10-21-2009 02:54 PM

TNA Flix does not give a flying fuck.

We have tons of vids on there and cant do anything about it.

CYF 10-21-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 16452356)
you missed http://hottorrent.net/
Daniel, Oded [email protected]
Daniel, Oded [email protected]
or contact

Arjan Wijnveen
Aalberselanen 7
Woerden
Utrecht
3445 TA
NL
phone: +31620420622
fax:
[email protected]

VIA whois history..

I was looking up information for the ip range, not the domain name. And where do you get hottorrent.net from? The discussion is regarding tnaflix.com.

HomerSimpson 10-21-2009 03:14 PM

how about PureTNA.com - porn torrent site with more than 1 million registered users!
you can download whole site memberships from there and latest updates!

PAR 10-21-2009 03:26 PM

maybe because this big ass company that can afforded its own data ceneter/IPs etc .. is sharing it IP with http://hottorrent.net/
whois info = Daniel, Oded
the address used for tnaflix etc.. also over laps with

But oh no they updated the whois info to 3 dif corp names all with the same address..
and there couldn't be anything like any overlap of this corp info that is in any way connected to Daniel, Oded...

Dropping a quick email takes 2 sec. its not like the other emails resulted in anything.. may as well kick a few other doors..

PAR 10-21-2009 03:31 PM

sorry http://hottorrent.net/ is a secondary site oned by them.. Startstream.com is the one hosted on the same IP..

CYF 10-21-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 16452515)
maybe because this big ass company that can afforded its own data ceneter/IPs etc .. is sharing it IP with http://hottorrent.net/
whois info = Daniel, Oded
the address used for tnaflix etc.. also over laps with

But oh no they updated the whois info to 3 dif corp names all with the same address..
and there couldn't be anything like any overlap of this corp info that is in any way connected to Daniel, Oded...

Dropping a quick email takes 2 sec. its not like the other emails resulted in anything.. may as well kick a few other doors..

I posted the whois for the WHOLE IP RANGE, not just one domain name. The abuse for that ip range should be able to take care of it, and if they don't, then contact info for some other domain won't do shit :2 cents:

MattO 10-21-2009 04:45 PM

They're hiring programmers:
www . tnaflix.com/job_advert.php

maybe someone could get on the "inside"?

Nicky 10-21-2009 04:57 PM

Kick his ass Sea Bass!

gideongallery 10-21-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16451549)
Pretty sure they're hosted with euroaccess.nl, not leaseweb.com.

DMCA is an American law, the Netherlands might have a different procedure to follow, I haven't looked into it.

it absolutely does
your registration is valid due to the berne convention but you still must comply with that countries IP LAWS.

Agent 488 10-21-2009 08:32 PM

why do you spend all your time defending criminal organizations, aaron?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16453185)
it absolutely does
your registration is valid due to the berne convention but you still must comply with that countries IP LAWS.


gideongallery 10-21-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16453372)
why do you spend all your time defending criminal organizations, aaron?

ignoring the DCMA is not a crime, dumb ass

it just pisses me off when americans expect that their laws should override every other countries laws.

the entire send DCMA to the host bullshit that is being argued in this thread is based on that insuferable position.

File a takedown notice that is compliant with that countries laws, dumb ass, then and only then would their actions be criminal.

TheSenator 10-21-2009 08:42 PM

What is the alleged offending link?

Agent 488 10-21-2009 08:49 PM

pretty much every major torrent site has it basis in organized crime, i am obviously a dumbass as why a nice ontario boy would spend all it's time defending that, eh aaron?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16453387)
ignoring the DCMA is not a crime, dumb ass

it just pisses me off when americans expect that their laws should override every other countries laws.

the entire send DCMA to the host bullshit that is being argued in this thread is based on that insuferable position.

pretty uch every torrent siteFile a takedown notice that is compliant with that countries laws, dumb ass, then and only then would their actions be criminal.


Nautilus 10-22-2009 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 16452535)
sorry http://hottorrent.net/ is a secondary site oned by them.. Startstream.com is the one hosted on the same IP..

So is startstream their hosting provider or their own company? I sent take down request to them too, and never got a reply - no wonder if they run it themselves.

sid 10-22-2009 03:57 AM

Has anybody tried to report a site for possible chil*d porn to the police and claiming that the models might be underage - I mean the tube owners does not have age proof ?

Might only work for teen content, but still worth a try ?

Dirty Dane 10-22-2009 04:55 AM

I love they write different on their pages, to "cover" their ass:

Quote:

We do not actively monitor, screen or otherwise review the media which is uploaded to our servers by users of the service.
http://www.tnaflix.com/dmca.php
Quote:

Q. I've submitted my video, but I can't find it anywhere on Tnaflix. Where is it?
A. In order to prevent unacceptable content from appearing on the site, most submitted videos must be approved before they will appear on Tnaflix. While we do try to approve your videos as quickly as possible, there can sometimes be a short delay before your video appears online. We thank you for your patience during this time.
http://www.tnaflix.com/faq.php
:1orglaugh

Nautilus 10-22-2009 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 16453942)
Has anybody tried to report a site for possible chil*d porn to the police and claiming that the models might be underage - I mean the tube owners does not have age proof ?

Might only work for teen content, but still worth a try ?

Cool idea.

Links to report them to the police in Netherlands anyone?

Nautilus 10-22-2009 06:21 AM

Found a link:

http://www.meldpuntcybercrime.nl

Will find some suspiciously young models now and report them.

sid 10-22-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16454285)
Found a link:

http://www.meldpuntcybercrime.nl

Will find some suspiciously young models now and report them.

:thumbsup

sid 10-22-2009 12:38 PM

bump Bumb

Nautilus 10-22-2009 12:50 PM

I submitted several links for the NL police to review - wouldn't even post them here because they're indeed suspicious, I'd say I'm 70% positive they feature underage models.

Do your own research and submit your complaint too - the more the better, the more chances they'll go ahead and take some actions.

moviebiz 10-22-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 16454668)
:thumbsup

Nice idea. I think it would work:thumbsup

gideongallery 10-22-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16453408)
pretty much every major torrent site has it basis in organized crime, i am obviously a dumbass as why a nice ontario boy would spend all it's time defending that, eh aaron?

your right and all pornographers are cp producers,

generalizations don't become anyone. There are tons of torrent sites dedicated to tv shows

tvtorrent
eztv.it
nothing but using torrent like a vcr
more than 50% of all torrent traffic is tv shows.
if they were organized crime you could get them shut down with rico you moron.

fair use rights should be technologically agnostic, i have as much of a right to use torrents as a timeshifting device as my parents had to use a vcr.

Just because the US wrote a law that is so out of wack that it is now being used to take way the right of backup from people doesn't mean that every country should have to obey it.

canada doesn't have a DMCA abusive law yet, and i am glad of that, the absurd arguement that we have to comply with takedown request especially the person filing the request doesn't agree to be bound by the counter restriction (all legal expenses if it is fair use).

Nautilus 10-29-2009 05:12 AM

Got them finally.

E-mail address [email protected] worked, thanks CYF for finding it out for all of us to use :thumbsup

The damn thing got like 20 pages thinner after our DMCA request was finally processed.

I'll report all necessary details in the copyright forum later, meanwhile feel free to hit me up for an advise if you have problems removing your stuff from tnaflix.

BlackCrayon 10-29-2009 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
your right and all pornographers are cp producers,

generalizations don't become anyone. There are tons of torrent sites dedicated to tv shows

tvtorrent
eztv.it
nothing but using torrent like a vcr
more than 50% of all torrent traffic is tv shows.
if they were organized crime you could get them shut down with rico you moron.

fair use rights should be technologically agnostic, i have as much of a right to use torrents as a timeshifting device as my parents had to use a vcr.

Just because the US wrote a law that is so out of wack that it is now being used to take way the right of backup from people doesn't mean that every country should have to obey it.

canada doesn't have a DMCA abusive law yet, and i am glad of that, the absurd arguement that we have to comply with takedown request especially the person filing the request doesn't agree to be bound by the counter restriction (all legal expenses if it is fair use).

the big difference between vcr's and torrents is that blank vcr tapes were needed and a portion of the price was a tax to cover lost advertising revenue.

NetHorse 10-29-2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16443569)
Unlike many of the big tubes, xhamster and tnaflix both host out of the Netherlands, so it is probably not very easy to legally do much about it...

http://whois.gwebtools.com/tnaflix.com
http://whois.gwebtools.com/xhamster.com

So if you hack their site is there not they can legally do about it? :)

SmokeyTheBear 10-29-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
your right and all pornographers are cp producers,

totally ignorant comparison. We have all seen every torrent site has stolen content, i have never seen a porn site with cp.



Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
there are tons of torrent sites dedicated to tv shows

public domain tv shows ? or stolen copyright tv shows ?



Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
nothing but using torrent like a vcr

besides the whole "sharing it" with people who don't have the right to view it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
if they were organized crime you could get them shut down with rico you moron.

I wasn't aware the rico act extended to the netherlands, but now that you have made us aware we will simply push the "rico arrest button" under our chairs..

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
i have as much of a right to use torrents as a timeshifting device as my parents had to use a vcr.

You may believe you do , but others dont agree. A computer and a vcr are vastly differen't things.
Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 16456576)
Just because the US wrote a law that is so out of wack that it is now being used to take way the right of backup from people doesn't mean that every country should have to obey it.

isn't your whole excuse (timeshifting) based on an american law decision ? Funny how you pick and choose which laws to agree with. Last i heard the netherlands were not in the usa , neither is canada :)


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