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andrej_NDC 10-26-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver Klozov (Post 16465737)
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Sucks to hear that, but good to see an oldtimer posting again. :)

Abbie 10-26-2009 04:50 PM

all but one of our servers is now up. Of course its the one that houses OHC :) hehe

Sin_Vraal 10-26-2009 06:33 PM

Anyone who says power is an easy thing to do... is an idiot.

Generators fail, ups explode (they really do), copper wire explodes from metal fatigue. not to sound crazy... but power failure is a sign of success... why? because people are using yoru service!

what about proper maintenance? Still happens.

While I am prone to giggling over the downtime as well... and despite really not liking them at all for our own personal reasons.... shit happens.


The bottomline is this:
unless you spent a mint on datacenter, your shit is going down at some point.
not going down will prolly cost you double at least. :2 cents:

LeRoy 10-26-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 16467305)
Not really they are expensive :helpme

My bad

I always looked at Choopa as a cheap host cuz they've spammed their services on the boards.

split_joel 10-26-2009 07:13 PM

This is why we own our own data center now because when you colocate in someone's else building it becomes a nightmare. Anyways best of luck to choopa and their customers.

rowan 10-29-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16467485)
So that's 3 people taken out by the NJ issue... maybe it affected more than we're thinking. :2 cents:

Luckily my server isn't in production yet, but a 3-4 hour outage a couple of days after I get the server is a bit of a shaky start. :(

To add even more wobble, the replacement router or some related part caused maximum throughput to drop to 0.5Mbps

This is NOT a good start...

SeizeTheDomain 10-30-2009 12:31 AM

Tough break
 
Your guys and gals unfortunate situation caused me to ask my web guy, could that happen to any of our sites hosted at Dedico?

I now have the piece of mind of knowing that we are being hosted in a sas70 type-II facility with 100% power and cooling uptime SLA.

Can someone translate that into english for me? :winkwink:

TidalWave 10-30-2009 01:01 AM

English: No datacenter is immune from downtime.

rowan 10-30-2009 05:53 AM

100% SLA sounds good, but it's not much use getting credited a couple of hundred bucks in hosting fees when your immediate and future losses because of any incident could work out to be significantly more.

Depending on your sites and setup it may be possible to have a "warm spare" server or VPS image sitting at another host, ready for activation at short notice.

SinisterStudios 10-30-2009 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 16480544)
English: No datacenter is immune from downtime.

Ive had my Equinix Cage for 7 Years and still going Strong, never had any kind of power issue. I pay a premium for this and im more than glad to pay the extra to have peace of mind.

The Halsey building has always had power issues, so its no surprise about Choopa going down

CaroMark 10-30-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16480943)
100% SLA sounds good, but it's not much use getting credited a couple of hundred bucks in hosting fees when your immediate and future losses because of any incident could work out to be significantly more.

Depending on your sites and setup it may be possible to have a "warm spare" server or VPS image sitting at another host, ready for activation at short notice.

Setting up hot spares is certainly an option but most won't do it once they see the expenses involved. If your sites are BW intensive then your costs may no be as expensive as your main site but if BW is minimal then the costs may actually exceed the cost of the primary hosting.

TidalWave 10-30-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SinisterStudios (Post 16481201)
Ive had my Equinix Cage for 7 Years and still going Strong, never had any kind of power issue. I pay a premium for this and im more than glad to pay the extra to have peace of mind.

The Halsey building has always had power issues, so its no surprise about Choopa going down

Don't jinx yourself. You are obviously leaving in a dream world as there have been plenty of Equinix downtimes. Maybe not your specific datacenter, but what about all the other people paying a premium in their other ones?

AdultEUhost 10-30-2009 11:03 AM

Another reason to spread servers and stuff across at least 2 datacenters :-)

SeizeTheDomain 10-30-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16480943)
100% SLA sounds good, but it's not much use getting credited a couple of hundred bucks in hosting fees when your immediate and future losses because of any incident could work out to be significantly more.

Depending on your sites and setup it may be possible to have a "warm spare" server or VPS image sitting at another host, ready for activation at short notice.


Interesting thought. Thanks.

rowan 10-30-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CaroMark (Post 16481503)
Setting up hot spares is certainly an option but most won't do it once they see the expenses involved. If your sites are BW intensive then your costs may no be as expensive as your main site but if BW is minimal then the costs may actually exceed the cost of the primary hosting.

Here's one such service, I'm not sure if it's dedicated or VPS --> https://www.bettercgi.com/clonebox/

If you have the budget and ability to run a hot spare then it's probably worth just doing full time load balancing...

NemesisEnforcer 10-30-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 16482314)
Another reason to spread servers and stuff across at least 2 datacenters :-)

Ever since the last major power outage in the US, not only do we use multiple data centers but the data centers must be on different power grids.

TidalWave 10-31-2009 12:41 AM

Whats even better is finding a host that has datacenters in completely different states, running completely independent from each other -- YET providing a secure, internal, FREE link between both locations.For example, datacenter say in Los Angeles and in Dallas. The clients then fully benefit from the advantages of having diverse DC locations, yet the machines interact with each other as if they were in the same rack next to each other.

Did I mention that we offer this? Its called the PRIVATE NETWORK. Not only does it interconnect all servers in our Los Angeles datacenters to each other on a dedicated routed internal network, but it also connects to our Dallas datacenter.

It will also connect to our THIRD (Chicago or East Coast, TBD) and FOURTH (Europe) locations soon too. So you can diversify your machines in 4 geographically separate locations (West USA, Central USA, East USA, and Europe) and still have them interact as if they were all in the same server cabinet.

Thats the end of my spam for now. :)

TheSenator 10-31-2009 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 16485622)
Whats even better is finding a host that has datacenters in completely different states, running completely independent from each other -- YET providing a secure, internal, FREE link between both locations.For example, datacenter say in Los Angeles and in Dallas. The clients then fully benefit from the advantages of having diverse DC locations, yet the machines interact with each other as if they were in the same rack next to each other.

Did I mention that we offer this? Its called the PRIVATE NETWORK. Not only does it interconnect all servers in our Los Angeles datacenters to each other on a dedicated routed internal network, but it also connects to our Dallas datacenter.

It will also connect to our THIRD (Chicago or East Coast, TBD) and FOURTH (Europe) locations soon too. So you can diversify your machines in 4 geographically separate locations (West, Central, East USA, and Europe) and still have them interact as if they were all in the same server cabinet.

Thats the end of my spam for now. :)

Do you know how do deal with memcached servers? Just like Facebook does it??? reference: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=39391378919
more reference: http://github.com/fbmarc/facebook-memcached

Im already using it out of a NOC from NYC. I need to spread my wings out to the West Coast and beyond.

If so ICQ me with an memcached server IP and port to test it out.

If you are a rep don't bother, I need someone who knows what they are talking about. Most reps don't know shit, good reps point to the people who know the shit.


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