Originally Posted by LickMyBalls (Post 16481927)

How is adding cams taking money off the table?

You know what, let's stop. I do appreciate what appears to be your candid replies but I just don't see it.

I suppose I'd never believe it till I saw your CPA verified financials and I'm pretty sure that ain't gonna happen.


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IMO, none of these sites have any originality to them. Yes, the girls are smoking hot but the web is filled with hot girls fucking. Just a bunch of sites filled with purchased content offering pre-checked cross-sales. Albeit, above the join form but that's gotta be a significant portion of your income as well.

But I'll take you at your word, Shapapotomus. Your making tons on cams and that's your focus in addition to your paysites and you're netting more profit in 09 then in 08. Got it.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16481902)

Absolutely. My point was I don't think someone doing this for 2 years full time and doing a total of 5 sales a day should consider themselves successful or close to a breakthrough. If you've done this for 2 years full time and are doing 5 sales a day total you really do need to move on because this industry isn't for you.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16481965)

I really need to learn to follow the advice the BROS give me lol. They all say "Shap, SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop posting! Stop educating the retards. The less they know the better."

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16482202)

It still amazes me how the simplest non-drama threads can escalate into madness.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16481965)

LOL I'm going to stop replying. Everything I say is either completely misunderstood or viewed as complete bullshit.

I really need to learn to follow the advice the BROS give me lol. They all say "Shap, SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop posting! Stop educating the retards. The less they know the better."

Originally Posted by chompers (Post 16482238)

Shap you are a fucking idiot. Why you continually post here is mystery to me. Seriously STFU.

Do you stop and talk to every bum you meet on the street?

Originally Posted by chompers (Post 16482238)

Shap you are a fucking idiot. Why you continually post here is mystery to me. Seriously STFU.

Do you stop and talk to every bum you meet on the street?

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16481611)

Comparing our Paysites Oct 2008 to Oct 2009 on sales and rebills we are pretty close to dead even. Adding in upsells and better member monetization we are up a little on overall revenue (ie we've increased our live cams push in the past year).

Our big growth is in the other projects we are working on. Some that people know of and others that people don't. Our industry has changed dramatically in a very short period of time. The people unwilling to change and innovate and work harder than ever are being chewed up and spit out. I think it's important for people to understand there is a big difference between the old guys/companies who are struggling going out of business and the guys that are still doing well. You can no longer sit back and relax and coast. The second you do that you are done.

We just put an offer on a new office space that is double the space and quite a bit more pricey than the one we are in now. Why? Because we need more room. We are looking to expand our staff and continue pushing hard. Times are tough but we are still no where near the point of cutting back and milking our entities for every last penny of profit

A note on my last point....I strongly believe when an entity/site/project hits a point where it continues to drop you have to look towards cutting all costs and running it as lean as possible. The beauty of our industry is, in most cases, there is a really good drawn out earn out period. If you have a paysite that was 15,000 members and it dropped to 3k members. Chances are you'll drop to a point where you can stop updating and make almost 100% pure profit. It's important to recognize when you hit that point so you can make that project as profitable in the end as possible.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16481965)

LOL I'm going to stop replying. Everything I say is either completely misunderstood or viewed as complete bullshit.

I really need to learn to follow the advice the BROS give me lol. They all say "Shap, SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop posting! Stop educating the retards. The less they know the better."

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls (Post 16482659)

Not COMPLETE bullshit. Just sorta bullshit. IMO.

I didn't write anything offensive. I was very careful to state that those were my opinions. You've been in this industry longer than me. You're more successful than me. You have more money than me. You're better looking than me. And fuck, I promote your sites. But I can still have an opinion even if it differs from yours.

I do discount most things you say pretty heavily. Maybe those aren't the right words. Perhaps better to say that I read your words with a sense that a portion of what you say is true and a portion is perhaps not so true. So when you refer to me as a retard, I'll go ahead and discount that as well. Or maybe, I'll just embrace my retardedness and hang out with my fellow retards. That will be difficult though. There are so few of them on here.

For the record, I don't think you're a retard and I wasn't trying to start drama. Just stating my opinion in the most respectful manner I could come up with.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16473022)

Where is the 200+ option? ;)))))

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16482692)

Hey I don't think you are a retard. My last post was just in reference to what barefootsies call the Brogram owners think of the gfy users.

Honestly GFY is the worst place to discuss anything of value or thought. Hit me up on email anytime mrshap at twistys dot com. I'll be more than happy to discuss anything you want and discuss it in detail :thumbsup

Originally Posted by PenisFace (Post 16487428)

After coming back from a two year hiatus, I'm back to less than one sale a day. I'm warming back up though, so I'm anticipating getting back into the swing of things if I ever stop focusing so much on mainstream blogging.

I did wake up today to two sales and $70 though, maybe a good omen? Only time will tell I guess.

PS: I was never at the 10 sale a day mark, so can anyone tell me this: How long did it take you to achieve that, and more importantly, how big is your site network? I'm sitting at about thirty blogs that get entirely SE traffic (probably only 1,200 a day total right now) and two domains for freesites, galleries, seo pages, and other random good ideas I steal from people who have more business sense than I do :pimp

Second PS: Why must sponsors keep increasing their minimum payouts? Seems like very few will actually cut a check for 40 or 50 bucks anymore. If I'm only sending like 10 hits to an old sponsor a day, it'll take a year for me to get my 200 dollars damnit :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16487522)

Regarding minimum payouts in the past 2 years fraud has been on the rise. It's been really bad. Having a higher minimum payout allows companies to get either more information on the sales (and the time to realize they are fraud) or forces the fraudulent affiliate to push harder sooner (which also exposes them). Our minimum payout is still quite low ;)

If you want email me at mrshap at twistys and send me your sites. I'll give you some feedback on how you can improve your sales. Results vary for everyone. Based on when they started, niche they are pushing, traffic levels etc.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16488130)

Cool Shap , thanks for your continued offers of assistance!

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16489206)

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 16490027)

..
Personally October was a record month for me since I started almost 5 years ago.

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16478204)

Obviously they are not being honest here...

If everyone was doing so much money, there would be more people here.. and traffic is going down MONTH AFTER MONTH..

when you try to sell something like a very good domain or a good site, you don't get offers... nobody buys anything like in the past...

in the past traffic was 1000% higher than now in this very same forum... you could sell domains or sites right away... now it's clearly that there is a lack of money in this community... and everyone is trying to sell an image of fake goodness and profit to try to be popular...

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16482012)

"Success" is subjective to that individual.

$29.95 x 5 = $149.75 x 30 = $4492.50 a month or $54,509.00 a year

That is more than my sister, and most models, and a few of my friends make a month. Add in some clip store(s) revenue, and other revenue streams and they can push that closer to $7500-10,000.00 or more easily.

While not a mansion with supermodels and lambo Shapalicious shaking your bon bon lifestyle by any means... it is a damn nice living in the midwest, and many other places in the world.

** on side note, this is revenue before expenses

Originally Posted by Evil Ryan (Post 16493998)

half that figure though nobody is making $29.95 a sale they are making 50% of that less processing fees and i would think a lot of affiliates replied to this poll

the only people who are making $29.95 a sale these days are programs with their own sustainable in house traffic i know how many new sales we make a day from affiliates and in house and i can tell you it is way beyond 10 a day on 30+ paysites plus our software product so the poll data is not actually usefull unless you know the type of person that voted.............. program owner or affiliate.

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 16490027)

Man some of you guys are naive... 10 sales a day is a nice income, but is not an unattainable or even high number. Just because you don't make that much doesn't mean no one else does...

Personally October was a record month for me since I started almost 5 years ago.

Originally Posted by Evil Ryan (Post 16493998)

half that figure though nobody is making $29.95 a sale they are making 50% of that less processing fees and i would think a lot of affiliates replied to this poll

the only people who are making $29.95 a sale these days are programs with their own sustainable in house traffic

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16495440)

Furthermore, as was clarified earlier in the O.P. he was looking for smaller program, site owners or independents. Not affiliates. Yes, probably plenty replied. But that was not the goal of the thread as clarified more than once.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Evil Ryan (Post 16493998)

half that figure though nobody is making $29.95 a sale they are making 50% of that less processing fees and i would think a lot of affiliates replied to this poll

the only people who are making $29.95 a sale these days are programs with their own sustainable in house traffic i know how many new sales we make a day from affiliates and in house and i can tell you it is way beyond 10 a day on 30+ paysites plus our software product so the poll data is not actually usefull unless you know the type of person that voted.............. program owner or affiliate.