Well look man, what's right for me probably isn't right for you, or for anyone else really. I'm not trying to tell others how they should live their lives, I'm just giving you the reason why I chose to do things the way I did.

Tomorrow is promised to nobody. My dad died at 53, my wife's dad died 10 years younger than that. Her brother died in his late 30's.
Shit happens.
If you knew for certain you'd be around "X" years then you could plan your life accordingly, but none of us know that.

Even if I knew for certain I'd be around, I didn't see the point in missing alot of my son's childhood so I could have a shit ton of money in the bank and spend time with him when he's a teenager. That rarely works out....by that time you're basically a stranger to them and rather than appreciate all the material things you can give them, they actually resent them and see them as the reason that you weren't there for them early on.

Anyhoo, don't want to turn this into an episode of Dr. Phil......I had a great run, and now it's over. I'm back to the corporate world with it's dog and pony shows and cya memos, and just want to cut ties with this biz completely for several reasons.

First $7500 takes the whole ball of wax.

Anything less than that and I might as well keep it, headache or not.

nope.... I am offering to do some consulting work, where I was going to squeeze out another 10 - 15 hours a week of more work on top of what I am already doing. It's all about diversifying and trying to work 10x harder. But if the gfy trolls equate that to meaning I am looking for a rep postition :helpme

It's a means to an end for me, I could give a shit if it was porn, owning a garabage pickup business or digging ditches, what ever made the most money to get me where I want to be.

Hey just shooting the shit, to each their own how they want to live their lives... i'm giving you more bumps to help sell your stuff.

The "you can die young" is the classic response of people who don't want to work a lot. True you can die young, you can also live to be 100. And if you don't work much and you live to be a 100 chances are your life will fucking suck and you will work till you are real old and then tossed into a retirement home because you can't afford anything and the state will have to take care of you. Per your logic, god help you if you don't die young because your life will suck as your will be poor and old.

For every person you have known that died before 60, there are millions more who live pay check to pay check well into their 70's and still working.

/Dr. Phil ;)

There is always a happy medium.

Will has a good point that when the getting is good the truly successful get after it. The less motivated use it as yet another excuse to take some additional time off.

However family time is important, especially in the early years. It's a cheesy saying but you can never get those times back, no matter how much you make.

You can still work a ton of hours and spend time with your family. It's just setting priorities. Working in this industry is a luxury in the fact that its mostly work spent from home. Meaning you can get up early, work, take time off and get the kids to school, work until they get home, help them with homework and eat dinner with the fam, tuck them in and then work at night. You can work more hours and have more family time then if you had to work a regular 9-5.

That's a pretty backhanded statement. It's as if you're saying that I don't really care about my family and spending time with them, I'm just using them as an excuse to justify my laziness.

That BTW is a classic response from a money obsessed workaholic who is trying to justify his lack of time spent with his kids, or the fact that he's on his 3rd marriage, or that his kids grew up to be addicts, strippers, hookers, whatever.

I never said I didn't save any money, or that I was looking for a handout, or that I haven't planned for my future, be that living to 100 (because I've saved) or dying tomorrow (because I've bought insurance).

What I've learned over the years is this, you never get rich, you just achieve new levels of relative poverty.

No matter how much you have, you're always looking at the guy one rung above you on the ladder and envying him.
The guy who can't afford to take a nice vacation envies the guy who can. The guy going on vacation and flying coach envies the guy flying first class. The guy flying first class envies the guy who can charter a private plane. The guy chartering the plane envies the guy who owns a plane. The guy who owns a plane envies the guy who owns a nicer plane. The guy who owns the nicest plane probably sees his wealth as more of a burden than a blessing, because everyone wants a piece of him and he doesn't know who his true friends are, and he envies the "normal joe six pack guy".

At some point, you decide what your priorities are and live them. It's not like I'm too lazy to work hard....if I was, I would have never taken the initiative to start my own business in the first place. A lazy person wouldn't dream of spending their free time "working" to try and get a new business going.

I made a conscious choice to earn less money in order to have more time for other things that are more important to me and I have zero regrets about that. Quit trying to find something wrong with me just because I don't share your worldview and worship of the almighty dollar.

plskthx

by your own admission you have worked 10-12 hours a day for a decade and are in the same place as snake doctor: struggling in adult and far from retired.

who has really failed now? at least lenny got to see his kids grow up and enjoy life.

Snake Doctor, where are you going from here ? what is it that is making you better ROI than adult?

I fucking love you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

...and i am perfectly fine with that... i'm sure I could do very well if I wanted to make this a full time gig, but I don't want to...

I'm sure there are A LOT of lurkers who do the exact same thing... probably more than you and I both know. :2 cents:

I think majority of Millionaires never want to stop earning money. If you can make a million, there is a good chance you can make 10 million, it goes on and on. You don't just make a quick Million and rely on that the rest of your life. Sorry, you are wrong.

If you can work somewhere for a 100K salary, then you are the type of person that will be happy with what you make and have a good time with family. But if you are a true business man, you will never stop chasing it till the day you die. (Or close to it)

i treat it like a game where money is the points, and a competitor always wants to score more.

hit me up i'm interested

I hope you are not nearly as depraved as the person you chose as your avatar. He stuck so many needles into his groin over the years that they had to juice him twice before he finally fried in the chair.

pretty whack out reply.

I never said you don't care about your family. You made it sound like the only reason you were putting in 3-4 hours a day was so you could spend time with your family. I think that is simply an excuse. but whatever, just my opinion. Atticus explained it better than me.

I'm not money obsessed, like i said a means to an end for me. Speak for your self for being the person always trying to make more and never being satisfied with what you have. Envy this person, bullshit etc... I will be perfectly fine when my passive income can pay all of my bills and give me a decent amount of play money left over, while the value of my passive income generating investments also grows. That envy crap might be you or the next guy, but not me. I don't envy anyone now, so why would I envy someone when I made enough to retire? I'm happily married, no kids, first wife never cheated muchless hookers, etc.

A lazy person is soemone who works 3-4 hours a day whether it is for someone else or themselves. Actually if they worked for someone else they would likely be forced to work more hours as they would be on a schedule and most shifts are longer than 3-4 hours.

I'm not trying to find anything wrong with you, just difference of opinion.... You stated the "work 3-4 hours a day was the way to go so you can do other important things with your life" I disagreed.

I am in the same place as snake doctor ? so I am making one sale a day hun>? :1orglaugh

keep thinking that bro.

I'm not struggling and I am not that far from retiring either. I would have been there already if I wouldn't have strayed from adult and tied up a lot of money in real estate just to watch my net worth take a huge hit over the last couple years. I will be the first to admit I lost a lot of money in offline projects, but it certainly wasn't from a lack of working hard and I am still doing fine with adult. But bro, you know my business, im struggling like snakedoctor if you say so. Now if I could only g et that affiliate rep job :1orglaugh

that might the case for most people, but I will speak for myself thanks. I don't want to be a billionaire. I don't need the huge yacht. I could give a shit what I drive, and I don't need the million dollar home. I live modest always have. I have made more money than probably 99% of the people here but I bet 90% of the people here have nicer toys than me.

Not talking about a quick million but building wealth. When you have secure investments that go up in value each year plus generator a cash flow. The cash flow more than covers your living expenses. Money left over can be reinvested and/or used for fun. Continue to grow your wealth from the money generated from it, manage your investsments. Work if, when, and how much you want to. Take a week off or a year off. That is what I called retired.

bump bump

So you did say exactly what I accused you of implying. That I was using my family just as an excuse to be lazy....that it wasn't really me setting my priorities, it was just me finding an excuse to not work hard.

Spoken like a true workaholic.

See this is the inverse of your point about "yeah tomorrow is promised to nobody but what if you live to be 100 you'll be miserable because you don't have enough money"

Money comes and goes. You can bust your ass 100 hours a week and do all the right things, and still lose it all and be back to the 9-5 grind. Meanwhile, all you have to show for it is a good story (not you specifically, but people that this happens to)

At least I spent time enjoying life, instead of working insane hours so that one day I'd "have enough money to enjoy life"....because that doesn't come with a guarantee that you'll ever even get the money you're chasing.....and even if you do get it, alot of people realize it doesn't make them happy anyways, and they're no happier in their McMansion driving a BMW than they were in their 1000 sq ft condo driving a Chevy.

But if it makes you feel better, just keep thinking I'm lazy. :thumbsup

Doc, why do you keep debating these people. You're selling your stuff. That's it. If it were me I'd just put the guys who aren't positively affecting your thread on ignore and call it a day. Good luck with the sale.

Bill: You pawned a Hattori Hanzo Sword? It was priceless!
Budd: Well, not in El Paso, it ain't. In El Paso I got me $250 for it.

:2 cents:

Smart man. Adult is a broke joke.

I understand what you mean and it's smart move. But once you have the drive and momentum to make that kind of money, the drive never stops. Most rich guys don't have the nice cars, crazy home. They build wealth for security and to know they are set for the rest of their lives. It's not always about what you drive and where you live.

Yup, if only if you wanted to. :1orglaugh

100% out of porn, eh. Ok, Snake Doctor. Good luck with selling your sites.

Way to bit my style. Lenny2 is a total fag.

:Oh crap

Your funny. :1orglaugh

You are joking right? I don't think you were the first to sell out, besides if you already closed the deal why does this even matter to you?

:1orglaugh

Yeah nice way to leave out the part about how he was forced to publicly apologize for saying that and admit that he made it up or else be banned, again, for like the 20th time.

When you have to quote p1mpdogg to find dirt on me, there must not be any dirt on me. :2 cents:

Nice try asshat.

No if I wanted to copy you I would have made a whiny ass thread every day for over a year about tube sites, added shady x-sales to all of my join pages, used BANKWITHDRAWAL as a billing descriptor, and THEN I would have sold everything.

Instead, I just decided to get out and sell everything.

I'm sure this will do well for the right buyer, at the right price. Good luck with the sale!

ouch! :1orglaugh

personally I prefer shel 0il as a descriptor.

Don't forget the threads wanting to do traffic trades and then silently killing all the trades a couple weeks later... that was awesome.. what a pain in the ass removing all those trades. :mad:

Snake Doctor - on your ICQ

Bump for a pretender

Damn skippy. I guess nobody wants this pile of crap.