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Big Red Machine 11-03-2009 06:05 PM
Jay you have always been cool in my book.
Best of Luck in whatever you choose to do

Cheers
Red

xxxjay 11-03-2009 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pornjudge (Post 16501253)
I agree with you... times are tough but have some fuckin respect god dammit. In these hard times we should be helping each other to succeed.
Yep, some of our best webmasters we have members access to to cut videos for TGP are now uploading the whole videos to the illegal tube and not so much as bothering to link through.

This whole game has become idiotic.

:2 cents:

Waddymelon 11-03-2009 06:07 PM
What do you expect? Look at some of the characters that have been involved from the start, and then place the rest of the blame on the idiots that thought that TGP sites, and then most recently tube sites, were good ideas.

These fuckers that run these things had to resort to giving away porn because they couldnt be successful at getting traffic any other way.

Juicy D. Links 11-03-2009 06:09 PM
it has always been this way man not really surprised tbh like any other business it has its bad peas

Barefootsies 11-03-2009 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by okok (Post 16501159)
This makes future draft picks trade-worthy assets. However, the current rules do not put a limit on the number of draft picks you can obtain-- so one guy, his team already out of contention, maneuvered to grab four 5th round draft picks next year by dumping his best players to the teams still in contention.

This gives the guy an advantage next year over all 11 of his opponents-- not just an advantage over the 3 opponents who traded him draft picks. Long-term, this is not unfair, because any team has the same opportunity, but short-term, it adds HUGE variance. Most of the league agrees that this short-term, year-by-year variance takes away from the fun of the league. So we'll probably vote to make it so only one draft pick can be obtained in trades per season.
I do this exact same thing myself!! :thumbsup

You simply recognize that it is a brilliant strategy and go cry in your beer. There is no rule against it. He is basically taking a season in the shitter to build a better future. Something I am sure the NFL teams could do easily.

Just as the contenders want to win NOW. They pay a premium for that. Draft picks. So you want it this year, and he'll take it next. If the greed for this year did not exist, he would not get anyone willing to trade away everything for it.

Hate the game. Not the player.
:pimp

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-03-2009 06:18 PM
This industry is full of complainers and whiners and less action takers... :2 cents:

Barefootsies 11-03-2009 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornjudge (Post 16501253)
I agree with you... times are tough but have some fuckin respect god dammit. In these hard times we should be helping each other to succeed.
It's not going to happen in an industry full of mercenaries.
:2 cents:

Barefootsies 11-03-2009 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16501447)
This industry is full of complainers and whiners and less action takers...
True dat.

Now go make a tube thread, grab a beer and cry in it.

gleem 11-03-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501230)
I knew where he was going with that. AFF is probably the only REAL ADULT dating site site on the NET where you might actually get LAID.

If you did a contest where someone joined Fling, AFF, and Sex In Your City to see who got laid first, I don't think there is any question you would score on AFF first. There are way more fake profiles in the competition, so your argument holds no water.
While I 100% agree with your original post that this industry just gets worse and worse with ethics, and it will continue this way for a while, I am completely shocked you did biz with AFF who have been holding people's rebills for ransom for a decade, who IMO single handily enabled 90% of all the illegal sites, tube sites, stolen pics sites, amateur CP sites to exist and flourish..

AFF were almost exclusively on every single illegal site a few years back almost alone because all other sponsor programs would immediately ban the affiliates for having illegal sites. AFF saw a way to make it big by getting in bed with the shady fucks, and IMO they legitimized all of them and are at the root of all the evil you bitch about in your very correct threads. /rant

gleem 11-03-2009 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501230)
I knew where he was going with that. AFF is probably the only REAL ADULT dating site site on the NET where you might actually get LAID.

If you did a contest where someone joined Fling, AFF, and Sex In Your City to see who got laid first, I don't think there is any question you would score on AFF first. There are way more fake profiles in the competition, so your argument holds no water.
And I did a test of the personals a few years back and I actually got laid of sexsearch before AFF :thumbsup


Fuck AFF, and you need to repent for profiting from them!

boneprone 11-03-2009 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16501104)
Can you blame Kristin for posting that? All you do is complain and whine and bitch. If you are that disgusted with the industry leave. Did you blow all your money and are in a situation that you can't leave the biz? Seriously the day I feel 1% the way you seem to feel (judging by your posts) I'm long gone. I've made my money and I'll be happily retired and working on becoming a scratch golfer.
Im lost...

What's a scratch golfer?

Looking it up now.

AaliyahLove 11-03-2009 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 16500471)
I hear you, I just saw AaliyahLove entire website ripped and put up on all the major torrents this morning, everything and the thing that bothered me the most about it was how impressive the presentation was of what the site rip consisted of... and how nice that it ended the post with

UP NEXT:
HayleysSecrets.com site-rip!

then the post under this is a video I shot... makes me just want to quit
really? Thanx for emailing me and letting me know! :Oh crap

can you plz email me with more details plz? [email protected]

xxxjay 11-03-2009 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 16501542)
While I 100% agree with your original post that this industry just gets worse and worse with ethics, and it will continue this way for a while, I am completely shocked you did biz with AFF who have been holding people's rebills for ransom for a decade, who IMO single handily enabled 90% of all the illegal sites, tube sites, stolen pics sites, amateur CP sites to exist and flourish..

AFF were almost exclusively on every single illegal site a few years back almost alone because all other sponsor programs would immediately ban the affiliates for having illegal sites. AFF saw a way to make it big by getting in bed with the shady fucks, and IMO they legitimized all of them and are at the root of all the evil you bitch about in your very correct threads. /rant
It's clear you have had a ad experience with them.

Their money is a green as everyone else's. They outbid the competition fair and square.

I have no issue with AFF.

gleem 11-03-2009 06:42 PM
here Jay the #1 rip-off of all time, adstats,owed me 200k and other MILLIONS felt safe redirecting to AFF when he dissapeared:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=420034

L-Pink 11-03-2009 06:42 PM
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/x...o/alt-fake.jpg

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-03-2009 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501585)
It's clear you have had a ad experience with them.

Their money is a green as everyone else's. They outbid the competition fair and square.

I have no issue with AFF.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh man, come on, tell me you didn't black out the whole Zango times did you?

gleem 11-03-2009 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16501616)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh man, come on, tell me you didn't black out the whole Zango times did you?
lol, forgot about ZANGO-AFF deal too....

yes Jay, they were like a little tick on the back of the industry getting fat sucking the blood of our hardwork popping their own ZANGO ads over our banners...

money is money, just hard to take the highroad when doing biz with AFF

xxxjay 11-03-2009 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 16501640)
lol, forgot about ZANGO-AFF deal too....

yes Jay, they were like a little tick on the back of the industry getting fat sucking the blood of our hardwork popping their own ZANGO ads over our banners...

money is money, just hard to take the highroad when doing biz with AFF
AFF was also owned by completely different people at that time.

:2 cents:

Naechy 11-03-2009 06:55 PM
Always bitched about them. they would do screen grabs of porn films they and soo on

boneprone 11-03-2009 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501662)
AFF was also owned by completely different people at that time.

:2 cents:
I miss those guys.
:xomunch

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-03-2009 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501662)
AFF was also owned by completely different people at that time.

:2 cents:
iBill was also owned by completely different guys too, gonna give them a second chance?

xxxjay 11-03-2009 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16501689)
iBill was also owned by completely different guys too, gonna give them a second chance?
Never gave them a 1st chance.

Next.

okok 11-03-2009 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16501445)
I do this exact same thing myself!! :thumbsup

You simply recognize that it is a brilliant strategy and go cry in your beer. There is no rule against it. He is basically taking a season in the shitter to build a better future. Something I am sure the NFL teams could do easily.

Just as the contenders want to win NOW. They pay a premium for that. Draft picks. So you want it this year, and he'll take it next. If the greed for this year did not exist, he would not get anyone willing to trade away everything for it.

Hate the game. Not the player.
:pimp
Haha read the rest of my post where I say that I got 2 3rds and a 4th after letting him take the abuse for opening the door :pimp.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-03-2009 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501706)
Never gave them a 1st chance.

Next.
Ok Jay, dude, I know you're mad because of what Stile is doing and all, but you gotta be think clearly here...

You damn the tube site owners, Stile, etc for stealing your content, but then turn around and call a company who has been called out countless times for lying to their members, using stolen pictures for profiles, and even using shady tactics like Zango to advertise, good guys, because they are under new management? Come on...

Like I said, iBill is under new management, and they have stolen millions from the members of your industry, but because it hasn't affected you directly, it's none of your concern?

xxxjay 11-03-2009 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16501860)
Ok Jay, dude, I know you're mad because of what Stile is doing and all, but you gotta be think clearly here...

You damn the tube site owners, Stile, etc for stealing your content, but then turn around and call a company who has been called out countless times for lying to their members, using stolen pictures for profiles, and even using shady tactics like Zango to advertise, good guys, because they are under new management? Come on...
Zango and all that was the old owners. I've sat down and talked with their CEO, he doesn't even know what Zango is. Sure, they do advertise heavily on the tubes, but I would too if I were them. They would be as big without it.

Maybe I am just biased because I made enough cash from them to not work for a year or two if I wanted. They were the highest bidder after all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16501860)
Like I said, iBill is under new management, and they have stolen millions from the members of your industry, but because it hasn't affected you directly, it's none of your concern?
They stole millions from people that chose to do business with them. Like any business arrangement, there is the "trust element" and they blew that out of the water I must say. I feel badly for anyone that got burned. I doubt the new iBill will make any headway.

SleazyDream 11-03-2009 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16500386)
I don't want to adapt.

I want to leave.
and yet - it's WORSE in mainstream :2 cents:

Barefootsies 11-03-2009 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16502214)
and yet - it's WORSE in mainstream :2 cents:
True dat.

I dabbled in mainstream a few years back. It will have you running back to the adult industry with you singing the praises of how good it is. Mainstream was fucking insane with fraud, and people black balling each other, ripping off anything and everything not nailed down, threats and people claiming to sue one another, nuking people's PP accounts, and anything in adult you can amplify by 20-100%.

Fraud, scams, bold face rips offs. It was simply in-sane.

xxxjay 11-03-2009 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16502224)
True dat.

I dabbled in mainstream a few years back. It will have you running back to the adult industry with you singing the praises of how good it is. Mainstream was fucking insane with fraud, and people black balling each other, ripping off anything and everything not nailed down, threats and people claiming to sue one another, nuking people's PP accounts, and anything in adult you can amplify by 20-100%.

Fraud, scams, bold face rips offs. It was simply in-sane.
I started in mainsteam experience, like anything else, it depends who you deal with. I don't think it is worse than adults current state at all.

The pool of money that is available to you in mainstream is so much bigger than adult it isn't even funny.

Mutt 11-03-2009 08:58 PM
the suing business against copyright infringing stealing porn tube owners who are laughably trying to hide behind the same law that mainstream sites like YouTube will be more lucrative than porn. what they're doing is so beyond the safe harbor of the DMCA that no judge will see it any other way.

i have no idea why your program isn't suing anybody Jay.

Barefootsies 11-03-2009 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16502229)
The pool of money that is available to you in mainstream is so much bigger than adult it isn't even funny.
Oh that is DEFINITELY true fucking dat!

In mainstream, you can close out deals in no time and people actually have some money to their name. So you can get business closed in the same day/week/month.

In adult, especially on the forums, 50% can't afford anything over $100.00. 75% can't afford anything over $500.00. 90% can't afford anything over $1000.00.

There are only around 7-10% of this industry who make any real money, and can swing deals. Whether for websites, content, domains, whatever. So 90% of this industry is really chasing 25% who have money, and the higher dollar deals chasing down 10%.

Out of that 10%..... maybe 3-5% could be buying. So there are not many buyers across the board. That comes not only from my OWN experience. But if you talk to a couple of dozen coders, designers, content producers.... they can verify that for you.

:2 cents:

xxxjay 11-03-2009 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16502252)
i have no idea why your program isn't suing anybody Jay.
Trust me, we are constantly looking into it and even have marked some attractive targets up in Norcal. It isn't as easy as it sounds.

Argos88 11-03-2009 09:31 PM
the funny thing is that some people actually say that the adult business is in it's best moment and that they are doing more sales than ever before... of that it can be possible to make a lot of money with gals, when it's know that it's an obsolete marketing strategy now, and that 95% of tgps traffic has shrinked like never before...

should we understand that those guys saying that their sales are better than ever are on the dark side now? or should we understand that they are hypocrite and r trying to show off?

I totally agree with you, Jay.

Shap 11-03-2009 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501126)

Then why are you still posting on GFY?
I still enjoy what I do. I don't feel the same way you do about the industry. If I did I'd be long gone.

Mutt 11-03-2009 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16500571)
eh? dogfart? certainly not. they have their shit service marked, can't be stolen. and they were around waaaaaay before the parasitic, mooching, thieving, ratbastards, so they're cool.
sorry - the dogfart/Blacksonblondes empire was all based on stealing content from the largest interracial DVD studio in LA, West Coast Productions. Once the thief had made some millions and gotten sued by WCP - only then did he start producing his own content.

xxxjay 11-03-2009 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16502394)
sorry - the dogfart/Blacksonblondes empire was all based on stealing content from the largest interracial DVD studio in LA, West Coast Productions. Once the thief had made some millions and gotten sued by WCP - only then did he start producing his own content.
That is true.

GrouchyAdmin 11-03-2009 11:24 PM
So, how many people are disinterested so far?

Iron Fist 11-03-2009 11:29 PM
Yup.. big drama.... keep "looking into it" though... eventually someone will actually do something around here.... but until then.... popcorn anyone?

xxxjay 11-04-2009 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 16502617)
So, how many people are disinterested so far?
3 pages of them.

:321GFY

dyna mo 11-04-2009 06:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16502394)
sorry - the dogfart/Blacksonblondes empire was all based on stealing content from the largest interracial DVD studio in LA, West Coast Productions. Once the thief had made some millions and gotten sued by WCP - only then did he start producing his own content.
well, spotting sarcasm/irony is not your strong suit eh.

no need to apologize for it though, it's cool.

:1orglaugh

OldSchoolJim 11-04-2009 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by okok (Post 16500848)
2009: "That's adorable! You still buy CDs?"

2015: "That's adorable! You still watch porn on websites on your computer?"

Digital content is easily transportable by design. You can't put the cat back in the bag. Technology caught up, predictably, and made it possible to put a terabyte in your pocket.

Like you might pine for the days of no free porn, the RIAA pines for the days of forcing people to buy an hour of filler for the 3 minutes of killer.

Look at iTunes and its rivals: for 99 cents you can download almost any song you like. It corrects a broken system, forcing the product to catch up with technology. So now there's just a NEW group of middlemen with new and better channels to consumers' wallets. And those consumers are HAPPY to pay for it! EVEN THOUGH they could get it for free via P2P solutions!

The problem for the establishment, the labels and distributors, is that it limits their relevance and opportunity. They have become irrelevant. They will die.

When NetFlix and iTunes offer porn, we are DEAD. Until then, who will step in and be the NEW middleman for porn?

If you're a middleman -- and by operating websites you are -- then keep your eyes open.

The DMCA-rattling tubes are doing it in an ugly way, but they are winning hearts and minds. They are building brands that can become NetFlix or iTunes of porn by the time legislation catches up with reality (such that the harbor is made not so safe).

So I wonder... is it possible to build a VOD/NetFlix/iTunes-ish channel WITHOUT becoming a legislatively blessed stolen goods warehouse? Or is it TOO LATE???

possibly one of the best quotes in years.....kudos


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