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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom
(Post 16527238)
Brett Rogers doesn't have a damn thing to be ashamed of. Before his KO of Arlovski he hadn't fought anyone worth a shit, and he hadn't been tested at all. He went in there against the best fighter in the history of MMA and got his shots in, and I think his nerves beat him just as much as Fedor did. I was no fan of Brett Rogers before this fight, but he proved to me he has a hell of a future in MMA...
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Has Arlovski and Fedor fought yet? I know it was a maybe before this fight but he lost to Rogers. Curious if they fought before.
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Originally Posted by cykoe6
(Post 16527259)
Agreed. Fedor is unbeatable.
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Nobody is unbeatable. Hell he was almost beat in that fight. He is just a great fighter and technically the best MMA currently has in that weight class. Fedor happened to recover quickly after getting rocked and getting a broken nose. Fedor ended up on his back getting beat like a bitch for part of the first round. Again like a great fighter he did not panic and fought back. He then threw his weight around behind his punches, almost in a panic until the round was over. Rogers fucked up in that fight and let the Fedor fear factor get in his way of the fight. I am also a Fedor fan.
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Originally Posted by cyberxxx
(Post 16527320)
As about Rogers: his successful MMA career was just busted. Period.
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Come on now. He was a nobody before the fight. He acted poorly after the fight in the interview, not as poorly as some fighters have who just walk away or show full on disrespect. Rogers just acted very ghetto, more about protecting his rep in front of his people than as a real fighter. He has no need for that though. He does not have anything to worry about though. Nobody should act upset loosing to Fedor. You could of put me in there with two fully loaded handguns, and a padded trench coat. I would of turned around and tried to shoot my way out of that cage while pissing myself, instead of fighting him.
Though to say his a busted career now is just nonsense. He lost, he analyzed what he did wrong quickly after the fight and was pissed with himself. He has not been a pro fighter long enough though to get his mind out of the ghetto yet. He was not a busted fighter post fight. He was just a disrespectful fighter post fight. He just did not know better and slipped back to the ghetto. Fedor on the other hand is always calm and collected. Knowing his is very religious makes this all make sense of course and explains why he is also so humble. Rogers will be back and be back strong. He will need a few fights with others to rebuild what he lost tonight both point wise and ego wise. On another day, that could of been Fedor on the mat though. So please do not fool yourself.
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Originally Posted by cyberxxx
(Post 16527376)
I don't have to know a lot about it. As I said above, he might be a great MMA fighter for the US standards, but he lose - that's so easy, isn't it? Furthermore, he was knocked down. Believe me: he was broken and his career was busted.
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Why is it not any different for Fedor. He was on his back. He also was bleeding like a stuck pig from a broken nose, which is a bad cut to have. Not cause it will stop a fight that often, it is bad because it fucks with your breathing and you taste and smell your own blood every second of the fight. He just did not loose the fight. Often you can not see how someone is as a fighter or anything else until you loose. It is how you come back and handle it that really makes someone a real fighter, not all the fights before the loss.
If you can not win the hardest fight there is, which is against yourself and self doubt (same with the fear of death) you will never be a true great fighter. Only way you can perform that fight is either to come close to death and accept it, or to loose such a fight and come back to be at least as good as a fighter as you were although often you will come back as a better fighter.
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Originally Posted by cykoe6
(Post 16527379)
That is nonsense. Rogers grew up in the Cabrini Green projects in Chicago which was one of the most violent and notorious neighborhoods in the world. I would guess he is plenty tough enough. :winkwink:
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It is one of the worst and toughest ghettos in the world for sure. Rogers has nothing to be upset about. You just got to see the ghetto in him when the fight was over which also did not need to be seen. As I said above, nobody with a brain would even begin to give Rogers shit for that fight.
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Originally Posted by cyberxxx
(Post 16527425)
Ok, no a single word about him anymore, because as I said above - I don't care about that guy at all.
As about Fedor. The only thing I disliked was his after fight speech when he thanked that "orthodox christian people who was prying for him here in Russia". I don't like all that religious bullshit. :disgust
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Why would you have issue with his religious beliefs. Odds are besides his own physical abilities he was born with, it is his faith that makes him everything that he is. You may think it is bull shit. I am very anti religious myself. To have issue with it is just wrong. It makes him stronger, makes him calm, and makes him the fighter he is. Just like how faith has been scientifically shown to not only allow people a more stress free life. It has shown numerous times, even in the real that such believers are often not afraid of death and accept it. That makes him even more dangerous as a fighter. Then again as science has shown religion gives people other benefits. Example they live longer.
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Originally Posted by BAKO
(Post 16527533)
That flee didn't have a chance against Fedor
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Your comment makes me assume your one of those who associate themselves not only with their country of birth, but that birth place with the fighter (fighters) it produces. Nothing wrong with national pride. Just do not begin to assault others countries by your own egotistical associations to a fighter that shares yours. (guessing). There is no reason to call his competitor a flee and doing so is very disrespectful. Oddly you would not see such behavior from the very fighter your admire, because he has taste and class. Unlike yourself, so perhaps you should take a gesture from the man you admire and learn from him.
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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat
(Post 16528785)
No he wasn't out cold. He was dummied and down, but out cold no. It was TKO, not a KO. Get it straight.
No he isn't, because you will never ever see the fight. It's not in the best interest of either fighter to take the fight. If Brock takes the fight he risks getting smashed by Fedor and everybody saying "I told you so." If Fedor takes the fight he risks being dethroned by the new sensation. Neither one, nor their handlers, are about to take that risk with the money thats riding on the success of both fighters reputations. Neither one ewants to take the loss to the other. They are possibly the ONLY TWO PEOPLE ON EARTH WHO DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE FIGHT. Obviously the rest of us would love to see it, but it isn't ever going to happen. Accept it. I have...
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I agree with you. Though I know Fedor is not just interested in his status. He is in it as a real fighter. He may take issue with being denied such a fight. One can only really hope that the fan demand gets so high that the money behind such a fight proves to be irresistible to the handlers and promoters.