I can maybe understand the views against a muzzle, however are you really suggesting and posting that leashes should not be used too?
The story you give is along the lines of those given by people who feel they should not wear seat belts cause there is a chance of getting trapped in a car.

I really do not see how it could make a dog "feel" like a maniac either. Dogs would have no real clue what a maniac is, plus if they were trained with it from early on it would be no different than a collar. Guess you would be right about it looking like one though.

I think the issue is if a pit bull attacks, THEY DON'T LET GO. thats all the general american population worry about.

Dogs bite people all the time, in defense, sometime during playtime but they know when to stop. when pits are in attack mode, its kinda hard to stop them.

Every dog is good. Most dogs dont chase little animals to eat for fun. My cute as a button huskies eat little animals, accept for puppies for some reason. Its just their breed.

My friend worries about his pitbull attacking people all the time if it gets loose. My friend is white not a ghetto thug. So there you have one pitbull owner who worries about his pit....

KILLING SOMEONE

i've owned a pitbull.

for all you pit bull owners telling people to stfu,
here's the facts:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Atta...%20Clifton.pdf

I think what bugs me the most about pit bull owners is they don't want to accept the fact that their sweet dog that cares for everyone, could potentially snap at any moment given the circumstances and just mual someone to death. your dogs may be playfull but still have a potential to kill.. Most pitt owners think their dogs are saints. most pit owners never have a bad moment, but they arent willing to accept the fact that it could happen and the consequences.

Makes me wonder why in some states you need a special insurance just because you own a pit bull. Probably because the dogs are sweet as o.j. and couldnt hurt a flee. hmm i could be talking about the actual juice you drink or the one that kills. i think i just invented a new saying.

Pit bulls= just like o.j. sweet enough you could drink or crazy enough to kill. Even my sweet huskies rank i think 4th on the most dangerous list but im not sure. Just under the the cute and cuddly german shepard.

since you aren't getting many replies. i will give you one

Im not sure. you can try contacting your city government and they may have an answer. its just a phone call away.

My apologies if this was posted already. I wanted to save myself the usual rhetoric that accompanies a pitbull thread on GFY.

http://www.akc.org/events/cgc/

that's more than pathetic.

let me rephrase that. for barking, then chasing at my dog while his owners watched and did nothing, then biting his feet. that little dog was lucky he escaped with his life and not crushed by my dogs bite strength.

Fuck dude, when Buddy was 4 months old I took him to a classic car cruise and everyone was flocking to see a cute puppy, all playing with him, getting their dogs up to him and let them sniff him, all this shit, Buddy got scared and crawled into my arms, everyone was in awe at how cute he was, then someone asked "Is he a boxer?" I said no, he was a Pit, half of them walked away, while the other said "Oh man, I love Pits!"

Same can be said about any type of dog man... We took a wild animal, think... a Hyena, from it's wild state, and made it a household pet... Any dog can snap at any moment, and I understand ASM's hate towards poodles as my sister had one, good dog, but he was abused by his previous owners so when he played he would get to rough and literally leave scars on my hands and arms...

My dog is going to get her "Good Citizenship" certificate, she has to do a test that last all day. I also have a trainer who comes every other week. I hope to have her do the test next year. I would suggest you look in the yellow pages and fine a train, they will be able to give you all the info for where you live.

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Awesome, you and FrozenJag are actually the 2 I was hoping for to reply since you're 2 I know are very verbal about your Pits.

I wish I can post a pic.. My dog looks so much like yours.. He's so tame too.. Definitely not your stereotypical pit that everyone riffs about..

Kory

Loved my pitbull. One of the best dog I "owned", my dogs are more like a family members. He would have died for me, I would have died for him.

RIP Mr Handsome

Yea I am huh? LOL I feel as I'm a 100% responsible owner. I do know she could snap and trip out but I have have done all the right things with her so I'm comfortable with how she's doing. She 6 months old so there will be years of training for her. She is put in a crate at night not aloud on the sofa. I do treat her different than my other dog (Pit Boxer mix) because she is a pit and I never want any kind of accident. When people who are not comfortable around her I put her in the crate. IMO any kind of dog can bite, they do have teeth! People just think it's "cute" when a small dog does it.


I do love her but never do I forget what she is.

:)

Now you're picking on German Shepherds too? Personally I'm not a fan of Pits, but I know people that own them, but places like Denver banning them is ridiculous. What breed are they going to ban next?

Pits aren't the only breed on insurance lists, many other breeds are, and many unfairly so. Any breed is capable of biting, they are dogs. It is true in the majority of the cases that it isn't the dog, it's the owner not being a responsible pet owner.

Many people get a dog, bring him/her home and think they are like toasters, plug it in and it works perfect. Many that have dogs, shouldn't be pet owners. The easy part is finding Fido and paying the adoption fee, and some seem to think it ends there.

If you want to see some examples of Micheal (asshole) Vicks dogs (Pits) after they were rescued, a lot of those are now in loving homes. Check out: http://www.bestfriends.org/

SPAY & NEUTER your pets. There are millions of perfectly fine adoptable animals in this country that are killed each and every year simply because there are too many of them.

Check your shelters and local rescues first, you will find your perfect mutt or pure breed there. :)

I understand having an animal and thinking its not the same because its yours and you get to see its personality. If I were to ever see a pitbull or rott my property I would probably kill it before it had the chance to harm me or my family. Yes, the % of it actually hurting us is low but im not going to risk it. more than 50% of dog fatalities over the past 6 years have been pit bull or rottweiler.

Simple facts about about attacks in the US, you can make your own conclusions. This is just the past few months mind you.

June 2009: Two Americans died from dog bite injuries this month.

On June 15, 2009, two pit bulls killed Justin Clinton, 10, a resident of Texas. The dogs and the boy were on public property. Justin is the USA's 16th canine-inflicted human fatality in 2009. Texas is the nation's leader in fatal dog attacks. It is a one-bite state.

On June 27, 2009, two pit bulls and a collie mix killed Gabrial Reese Mandress, 3, of Marion, Illinois. The dogs belonged to his parents, and he was killed in his own back yard. Illinois is a strict liability state.


August 2009: Four Americans died from dog bite injuries.

On August 10, 2009, 20-year-old Carter Delaney of Louden County, Virginia, was killed by pit bulls which he cared for, and which were owned by his brother. It is a one-bite state.

On August 14, 2009, 66-year-old Sherry Schweder and her husband, Lothar Schweder, 76-years-old, were killed by an unknown number of dogs near the couple's home outside Atlanta, GA

On August, 15, 2009, a 3-day-old infant was snatched from his crib and killed by his parents' pit bull. This happened in Hardy County, W. Virginia, and no names are available at this time.

September 2009: One American died from dog bite injuries.

On September 28, 2009, 23-month old Jasmine Deane died after being bitten several times by her family's pit bull, which was chained outside their house. This happened in Orange County, Virginia. It is a one-bite state.

yeah i absolutely understand your point. it is kind of an oxymoron in many cases. for some people there is a certain aspect of image associated with these dogs, and that's unfortunate, but in some ways having a contradiction of vicious name with gentle behavior is almost better because because of the inherent irony.

like calling a really huge guy "tiny". :1orglaugh

one of the other bonuses to have a bully is that you can help bust prejudices one person at a time. i get a lot of joy watching someone's apprehension turn to adoration the first time they meet my dog. she is just under a year old and is still learning her manners and how to contain her excitement when she meets someone but is always friendly.

that's one of the things i have always appreciated about your posts by the way, i don't recall ever seeing you use a "wide brush".

Even though a dog may stray on to your property, if no one is in immediate danger, hopefully you would call animal control and not just kill it. Depending on where one lives of course, it can even be illegal to shoot a dog on your property, unless there is immediate danger. I know...I know...you could just lie that the dog was going to attack, etc.

Of course we all are going to protect our family first, but try and give these animals a break when you can. They need all the help they can get. After all, it usually is us humans that fuck things up for them. :(

Go Vikings!

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Most places probably won't care how well-trained your pitbull is. The fact that a lot of dog attacks happen when they "have a bad moment" and that pitbulls tear people to shreds because they're bred for fighting when they "have a bad moment" would suggest that any training wouldn't matter to people that don't allow pitbulls.

Personally, if a certain breed has a bad stigma and is responsible for around 70% of fatal dog attacks, I'm not getting one. It's a personal choice and I'm sure most pitbulls are great dogs throughout their lives. But when instinct kicks in during a bad situation and they fuck your shit up, I'd rather have a dog I can stop from murdering me.

You can defend owning a pitbull all day long and you can do the same with owning a tiger. Haha. As long as they don't allow them in my neighborhood, they can allow them everywhere else for all I care.

Sascha, you should get a tiger, so suits you.

If anything I would get a liger. They're bigger and less aggressive. I'll be safe if I get it certified to be well-trained. It won't randomly snap and kill me I bet!

Pitbulls are nice until they maul your leg off because of instinct. You know who else does this? Serial killers.

The study found reports of 264 people killed by dogs over the 24-year period, of which "pit bull terrier" or mixes thereof were reportedly responsible for killing 137, or about 43 percent, of the 314 people killed by dogs in the attacks identified in the study. The breed with the next-highest number of attributed fatalities was the Rottweiler and mixes thereof, with 67 fatalities or about 21 percent of the study-identified fatalities; in aggregate, pit bulls, rottweilers, and mixes thereof were involved in about 64% of the study-identified fatalities.[30]

I'm curious. Why does someone want to get a breed of dog so notorious for fucking shit up?

I realize dogs have been domesticated for a while, as have been certain people. But really - What the fuck is up here? It's easier for a maladjusted dipshit to get a breed of dog known for fucking shit up, than it is for someone waiting in line at Starbucks to get a decent espresso.

Sometimes, I just think humanity needs to end.

You're basically willing to murder children for fun if you own a pitbull. What a sick world this is.

that makes sense. just like how if you're german you're basically willing to murder jews for fun.

you anti-semites make me sick. close down the gas chambers adolf!

Damn right! Get in ze oven!

Good post!


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Damn right!

Haven't seen him for almost a year now. He's staying in a dog hotel in Europe and I'm in Asia...
Will be visiting him soon (28 hours on a plane to get there and come back :Oh crap)

Here's one more pic of my boy :pimp

http://img2.pict.com/03/b2/d7/198121...0/dsc00074.jpg


To all pitbull haters: fuck off.

Your dog is so violent you won't even have him living with you? :1orglaugh

i see you have a choke collar on your pit bull.

must be hard to keep him under control, thus the need to choke him out when he tries to get away.

got it.

You have to accept they will always have a bad reputation. I personally don't like the dogs, however I do know they can be good dogs. Its all in the upbringing like with all dogs. Pits do tend to have a bit of a bad nature tho that you can't argue with.

As I always say tho its in how you raise your dog. I won't be hypocritical and say I don't worry if I see a Pit Bull of a leash when I'm walking my dog because I do. So far I've only came across one that tried to attack my dog but it was on a leash and caught the owner off guard as he came to my house and my dog was sitting at the fence. He apologised to me immediately and pulled his dog on a tighter leash.

I love picking up dog shit

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i am melting, he is so cute

love pitbulls, they are such sweet/smart doggies <3 bully breeds in general rule.

in a few years there'll be a new breed that everyone hates on, so the responses in this thread are funny. remember when rottweilers were supposed to be the demonspawn of doggiekind?

i've actually had quite a few people lately telling me that i'm crazy for having a boxer because they're "mean and vicious". people really will believe and repeat anything...

Killswitch, You need to move to my town...Pits are treated like all other breeds and all
dangerous dogs are also treated equally :thumbsup

Oh man, I hear ya, I understand Pits have a bad rep, I'm not hating on the people who have their reasons and are educated, I'm hating on the idiots who don't know jack shit other then the fact that Mike Vick was put in jail for having a fighting Pit Bull ring, and immediately damn every Pit Bull in existence.

I swear Buddy doesn't have a bone in his body that will make him vicious... He's sitting next to me right now whimpering because he wants me to cuddle him... Big baby.. Sure he's only 6 months old, a lot in him could change in the next 6 months, but by the way his mother is, I doubt he'll change much...

I'm not far from Chicago. I live in Dubuque, IA, right on the border of Wisconsin, Iowa, and Illinois.

I have a good friend that lives in Galena, IL right across the Miss R from you...Next time I'm up that way we should hook up:thumbsup

maul victim hater spotted

Cool :thumbsup

i'm gonna train domino to pee on command at people and test it out on you, steve!!

The retarded replies in this thread make me :1orglaugh

So ovious the people with no experience with dogs or even any animal for that matter.

dog owner here. also watched a pit chase a kid on his bike last year and bite him on the leg. good thing it wasnt a vicious attack and im sure that pit was just playing as well. animal control had to come and all that stuff and take all three pit bulls that they had. they got them back of course.

I pay a lady $14.95 a week to come here and pick up all the dog poop.


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