i have one beagle here, sorry

eh a name is just a name. bully dogs are just the flavor du jour for certain demographics that shouldn't have any dog at all. before it was pits it was rottweilers, before that german shepherds and so on.

just for the record my bully is named Isis. :upsidedow

she was a rescue dog from a local shelter and i can't even tell you how happy i am to have been able to give her a second chance. she has thanked me a million times over with her loyalty, love, and general goofball tendencies.

i always tell people that if an intruder broke in to my house their biggest obstacles with her would be being followed around while they stole all my shit having toys dropped at their feet, and receiving a vicious amount of puppy kisses. :1orglaugh

Smack I am not saying everyone does, again no wide paint brush.
Just sort of smacks of irony that they are so defensive of their dogs, say how sweet it is, give the whole it is the owner and not the breed talk, then call in killer to show you how sweet she is.

Anybody that forms their opinion with having never been around pitbulls is a total moron that talks out their ass. You know kinda like those people that talk a big expert game here at gfy but are part timers that live in moms basement.

People shouldnt be hypocrits.

Left To right Amos, Kira, Bella.

No they dont eat my cat, infact they sleep together on the same little 4 foot across bed. No there names arent killer, no they wont bite your leg off UNLESS you break into my house (then they will yes), and last... Yes they are extremely nice and good dogs. Both have passed the good samaritan tests and can be used in nursing homes, etc. Also both do dog agility where they jump over jumps, through tunnels, over dog walks, etc. Bella is only 1 yr old! lol.

Anyway, sorry for the rant, get so tired of haters.

ps. Killswitch if you still need any info at all hit my icq, my wife knows all the details about what your looking for.

Here is Kane who we fostered last year, he was so sweet too. Glad we found him a great home. We foster 1 pitbull out of the local rescue organization every year.

http://www.hqtrades.com/kaneandbella.jpg

Sine you mention the name killer you are directing that at me in a way. I am far from a pit bull hater, I said I am pretty neutral about them with a little on the negative side. I did provide him with a lot of information. I also mentioned I would allow a pit that was a service dog into our rentals, that is despite the fact that I can always find reasons to deny someone legally. I have banned several large dogs and poodles. Some for insurance reasons, and some for other reasons that were valid and not a choice just because of what they are.

Nobody has bothered to even ask if I had been around them, beyond the breeder who lives close to me who has gotten into trouble. Though you can make assumptions. I grew up around several large dogs as my father was into a lot of dogs. Of that we had 2 pits, 1 German shepard, 2 labs, 1 retriever, a couple mutts, and a dobermen (spelling) which was a total of 11 dogs on our farm.

Now if you are directing the comment about living in my mothers basement (long dead), being a part timer who talks out his ass, with a big game, and a hypocrite then you make some serious assumptions once more.

I just happen to be willing to speak my mind and some people do not like it. Things can be assorted shades a grey in my world, though it seems if it is not black and white then they have issues with me.

I have no doubts all the pit owners on here have great dogs. Hell my two breeds I do not like at all are poodles and retrievers. The retriever issue is not really fair but it got established early on in my life and as a kid I was tormented by a poodle my great grandmother owned. Not really a reason to hate a breed and I admit that. It is just breeds I have issues with and do not want around me.

Feel free to rant, it can be good. It can spur conversations.

yeah "killer" I suppose was directed at you, but not the basement thing or ass talking lol. I dont know you so wouldnt assume that. Mostly was just a statement in general from the 10's of people that always jump on anti pitbull threads/topics. Its all over, not just on the boards. You have no idea (well maybe you do) just how much we have to defend our dogs whether at the park, on message boards, or just anywhere for that matter. My favorite is when you have a small pitbull pup and people come running/flocking up to pet it and ask "what kinda dog is that she is sooo cute!!" then your like "a pitbull" and they step way back, talk some shit under their breath, grab johnny and leave. Its just annoying like just stfu people. Anyway im ranting here. :P

Anyway... You seem to be level headed and I respect that. If you have met the breed and still arent a fan then all fair. :)

Mostly it is insurance reasons and judges are slanted. I must always keep risk and reward in line when it comes to things I do. My homeowners and renters insurance charges much more if there are certain breeds allowed to be possessed. I also know the local news and the judges would have NO PROBLEMS associating me with the tenets dogs and anyone harmed would primarily come after me since I have known assets. Tenets typically will not own much lawsuit wise.

That is why I also explained to Killswitch about picking up insurance. Typically if something does happen you WILL be guilty until you can prove your innocence, unlike how it is supposed to go. Heck often if a pit does anything they will get the dog at very least taken for monitoring, if not to put it to sleep even before your case.

cute doggy!

Please don't put a fucking muzzle on your dog just because other people are scared, people are scared of a lot of things (like insects), it's no reason to make your dog look and feel like a maniac (unless he is one).

And as for the leash thing, I remember seeing a girl walk her big golden retriever and it got tore up by a dog half its size because the girl was nearly sobbing about the situation and trying to get away by yanking/dragging her dog and throwing off his balance while the little one was tearing him to pieces. I guess that really has nothing to do with people keeping dogs on leashes but I wish she would've just let him go and he could've easily handled himself.

I can maybe understand the views against a muzzle, however are you really suggesting and posting that leashes should not be used too?
The story you give is along the lines of those given by people who feel they should not wear seat belts cause there is a chance of getting trapped in a car.

I really do not see how it could make a dog "feel" like a maniac either. Dogs would have no real clue what a maniac is, plus if they were trained with it from early on it would be no different than a collar. Guess you would be right about it looking like one though.

I think the issue is if a pit bull attacks, THEY DON'T LET GO. thats all the general american population worry about.

Dogs bite people all the time, in defense, sometime during playtime but they know when to stop. when pits are in attack mode, its kinda hard to stop them.

Every dog is good. Most dogs dont chase little animals to eat for fun. My cute as a button huskies eat little animals, accept for puppies for some reason. Its just their breed.

My friend worries about his pitbull attacking people all the time if it gets loose. My friend is white not a ghetto thug. So there you have one pitbull owner who worries about his pit....

KILLING SOMEONE

i've owned a pitbull.

for all you pit bull owners telling people to stfu,
here's the facts:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Atta...%20Clifton.pdf

I think what bugs me the most about pit bull owners is they don't want to accept the fact that their sweet dog that cares for everyone, could potentially snap at any moment given the circumstances and just mual someone to death. your dogs may be playfull but still have a potential to kill.. Most pitt owners think their dogs are saints. most pit owners never have a bad moment, but they arent willing to accept the fact that it could happen and the consequences.

Makes me wonder why in some states you need a special insurance just because you own a pit bull. Probably because the dogs are sweet as o.j. and couldnt hurt a flee. hmm i could be talking about the actual juice you drink or the one that kills. i think i just invented a new saying.

Pit bulls= just like o.j. sweet enough you could drink or crazy enough to kill. Even my sweet huskies rank i think 4th on the most dangerous list but im not sure. Just under the the cute and cuddly german shepard.

since you aren't getting many replies. i will give you one

Im not sure. you can try contacting your city government and they may have an answer. its just a phone call away.

My apologies if this was posted already. I wanted to save myself the usual rhetoric that accompanies a pitbull thread on GFY.

http://www.akc.org/events/cgc/

that's more than pathetic.

let me rephrase that. for barking, then chasing at my dog while his owners watched and did nothing, then biting his feet. that little dog was lucky he escaped with his life and not crushed by my dogs bite strength.

Fuck dude, when Buddy was 4 months old I took him to a classic car cruise and everyone was flocking to see a cute puppy, all playing with him, getting their dogs up to him and let them sniff him, all this shit, Buddy got scared and crawled into my arms, everyone was in awe at how cute he was, then someone asked "Is he a boxer?" I said no, he was a Pit, half of them walked away, while the other said "Oh man, I love Pits!"

Same can be said about any type of dog man... We took a wild animal, think... a Hyena, from it's wild state, and made it a household pet... Any dog can snap at any moment, and I understand ASM's hate towards poodles as my sister had one, good dog, but he was abused by his previous owners so when he played he would get to rough and literally leave scars on my hands and arms...

My dog is going to get her "Good Citizenship" certificate, she has to do a test that last all day. I also have a trainer who comes every other week. I hope to have her do the test next year. I would suggest you look in the yellow pages and fine a train, they will be able to give you all the info for where you live.

:)

Awesome, you and FrozenJag are actually the 2 I was hoping for to reply since you're 2 I know are very verbal about your Pits.

I wish I can post a pic.. My dog looks so much like yours.. He's so tame too.. Definitely not your stereotypical pit that everyone riffs about..

Kory

Loved my pitbull. One of the best dog I "owned", my dogs are more like a family members. He would have died for me, I would have died for him.

RIP Mr Handsome

Yea I am huh? LOL I feel as I'm a 100% responsible owner. I do know she could snap and trip out but I have have done all the right things with her so I'm comfortable with how she's doing. She 6 months old so there will be years of training for her. She is put in a crate at night not aloud on the sofa. I do treat her different than my other dog (Pit Boxer mix) because she is a pit and I never want any kind of accident. When people who are not comfortable around her I put her in the crate. IMO any kind of dog can bite, they do have teeth! People just think it's "cute" when a small dog does it.


I do love her but never do I forget what she is.

:)

Now you're picking on German Shepherds too? Personally I'm not a fan of Pits, but I know people that own them, but places like Denver banning them is ridiculous. What breed are they going to ban next?

Pits aren't the only breed on insurance lists, many other breeds are, and many unfairly so. Any breed is capable of biting, they are dogs. It is true in the majority of the cases that it isn't the dog, it's the owner not being a responsible pet owner.

Many people get a dog, bring him/her home and think they are like toasters, plug it in and it works perfect. Many that have dogs, shouldn't be pet owners. The easy part is finding Fido and paying the adoption fee, and some seem to think it ends there.

If you want to see some examples of Micheal (asshole) Vicks dogs (Pits) after they were rescued, a lot of those are now in loving homes. Check out: http://www.bestfriends.org/

SPAY & NEUTER your pets. There are millions of perfectly fine adoptable animals in this country that are killed each and every year simply because there are too many of them.

Check your shelters and local rescues first, you will find your perfect mutt or pure breed there. :)

I understand having an animal and thinking its not the same because its yours and you get to see its personality. If I were to ever see a pitbull or rott my property I would probably kill it before it had the chance to harm me or my family. Yes, the % of it actually hurting us is low but im not going to risk it. more than 50% of dog fatalities over the past 6 years have been pit bull or rottweiler.

Simple facts about about attacks in the US, you can make your own conclusions. This is just the past few months mind you.

June 2009: Two Americans died from dog bite injuries this month.

On June 15, 2009, two pit bulls killed Justin Clinton, 10, a resident of Texas. The dogs and the boy were on public property. Justin is the USA's 16th canine-inflicted human fatality in 2009. Texas is the nation's leader in fatal dog attacks. It is a one-bite state.

On June 27, 2009, two pit bulls and a collie mix killed Gabrial Reese Mandress, 3, of Marion, Illinois. The dogs belonged to his parents, and he was killed in his own back yard. Illinois is a strict liability state.


August 2009: Four Americans died from dog bite injuries.

On August 10, 2009, 20-year-old Carter Delaney of Louden County, Virginia, was killed by pit bulls which he cared for, and which were owned by his brother. It is a one-bite state.

On August 14, 2009, 66-year-old Sherry Schweder and her husband, Lothar Schweder, 76-years-old, were killed by an unknown number of dogs near the couple's home outside Atlanta, GA

On August, 15, 2009, a 3-day-old infant was snatched from his crib and killed by his parents' pit bull. This happened in Hardy County, W. Virginia, and no names are available at this time.

September 2009: One American died from dog bite injuries.

On September 28, 2009, 23-month old Jasmine Deane died after being bitten several times by her family's pit bull, which was chained outside their house. This happened in Orange County, Virginia. It is a one-bite state.

yeah i absolutely understand your point. it is kind of an oxymoron in many cases. for some people there is a certain aspect of image associated with these dogs, and that's unfortunate, but in some ways having a contradiction of vicious name with gentle behavior is almost better because because of the inherent irony.

like calling a really huge guy "tiny". :1orglaugh

one of the other bonuses to have a bully is that you can help bust prejudices one person at a time. i get a lot of joy watching someone's apprehension turn to adoration the first time they meet my dog. she is just under a year old and is still learning her manners and how to contain her excitement when she meets someone but is always friendly.

that's one of the things i have always appreciated about your posts by the way, i don't recall ever seeing you use a "wide brush".

Even though a dog may stray on to your property, if no one is in immediate danger, hopefully you would call animal control and not just kill it. Depending on where one lives of course, it can even be illegal to shoot a dog on your property, unless there is immediate danger. I know...I know...you could just lie that the dog was going to attack, etc.

Of course we all are going to protect our family first, but try and give these animals a break when you can. They need all the help they can get. After all, it usually is us humans that fuck things up for them. :(

Go Vikings!

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Most places probably won't care how well-trained your pitbull is. The fact that a lot of dog attacks happen when they "have a bad moment" and that pitbulls tear people to shreds because they're bred for fighting when they "have a bad moment" would suggest that any training wouldn't matter to people that don't allow pitbulls.

Personally, if a certain breed has a bad stigma and is responsible for around 70% of fatal dog attacks, I'm not getting one. It's a personal choice and I'm sure most pitbulls are great dogs throughout their lives. But when instinct kicks in during a bad situation and they fuck your shit up, I'd rather have a dog I can stop from murdering me.

You can defend owning a pitbull all day long and you can do the same with owning a tiger. Haha. As long as they don't allow them in my neighborhood, they can allow them everywhere else for all I care.

Sascha, you should get a tiger, so suits you.

If anything I would get a liger. They're bigger and less aggressive. I'll be safe if I get it certified to be well-trained. It won't randomly snap and kill me I bet!

Pitbulls are nice until they maul your leg off because of instinct. You know who else does this? Serial killers.

The study found reports of 264 people killed by dogs over the 24-year period, of which "pit bull terrier" or mixes thereof were reportedly responsible for killing 137, or about 43 percent, of the 314 people killed by dogs in the attacks identified in the study. The breed with the next-highest number of attributed fatalities was the Rottweiler and mixes thereof, with 67 fatalities or about 21 percent of the study-identified fatalities; in aggregate, pit bulls, rottweilers, and mixes thereof were involved in about 64% of the study-identified fatalities.[30]

I'm curious. Why does someone want to get a breed of dog so notorious for fucking shit up?

I realize dogs have been domesticated for a while, as have been certain people. But really - What the fuck is up here? It's easier for a maladjusted dipshit to get a breed of dog known for fucking shit up, than it is for someone waiting in line at Starbucks to get a decent espresso.

Sometimes, I just think humanity needs to end.

You're basically willing to murder children for fun if you own a pitbull. What a sick world this is.

that makes sense. just like how if you're german you're basically willing to murder jews for fun.

you anti-semites make me sick. close down the gas chambers adolf!

Damn right! Get in ze oven!

Good post!


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Damn right!

Haven't seen him for almost a year now. He's staying in a dog hotel in Europe and I'm in Asia...
Will be visiting him soon (28 hours on a plane to get there and come back :Oh crap)

Here's one more pic of my boy :pimp

http://img2.pict.com/03/b2/d7/198121...0/dsc00074.jpg


To all pitbull haters: fuck off.