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maxjohan 11-16-2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 16554150)
Can someone post the Cliff Notes on this entire story.

Something about Sleazy owning a giant ass-TGP in the early 21st century, that went belly up, and down "the tubes"...

At least Sleazy admits he has made mistakes, financially.??????

Now he have an Idea to turn his life around
to begin to crawl up and get his glam life back.

czarina 11-16-2009 08:15 AM

well, if you still own the real estate property you guys bought, it's not a loss... it's just a sleeping asset.

maxjohan 11-16-2009 08:25 AM

Mention, is different than being
upset, and having
frustrations feelings, anger.

Some have a hard time geting over
failures and mistakes in life.

Which is holding them back, for getting up
again on their asses.

So get rid of those feelings, and get
in the backdoor to doing Bizness.As usual

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16554726)
actually i've
heard you mention
it many times.......


jigga 11-16-2009 08:29 AM

Investments are about risk. At the end of the day you are the only one responsible for where you invest your money. If the investment fails and you lose the money, just accept it and move on. It's part of the game. There's no crying when it comes to investing :winkwink:

AaronM 11-16-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16554248)
what hurt the most wasn't the money - hell I offered him MY share which was 2X his..

what HURT was he told me he was only my friend cause I paid for everything.

THAT HURT


Wow. I'm not surprised that somebody would say such a thing as I know plenty of people who treat their "friendships" like that, especially in this industry. However, I'm very surprised to learn that after all these years, Jman was one of those kind of friends to you.

As long as I have known you, you have always been a generous person. I've seen you pay for flights, hotel rooms, parties, multiple activities, bar tabs, meals, etc...For MANY people.

Different people are generous for different reasons. There are people who do it simply because they have to buy friends and then there are people, like you, who genuinely want to help others to experience things they otherwise might not.

Even when you and I have had our differences, I've always appreciated everything you have done for myself and others.

baddog 11-16-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16556132)
Wow. I'm not surprised that somebody would say such a thing as I know plenty of people who treat their "friendships" like that, especially in this industry. However, I'm very surprised to learn that after all these years, Jman was one of those kind of friends to you.

As long as I have known you, you have always been a generous person. I've seen you pay for flights, hotel rooms, parties, multiple activities, bar tabs, meals, etc...For MANY people.

Different people are generous for different reasons. There are people who do it simply because they have to buy friends and then there are people, like you, who genuinely want to help others to experience things they otherwise might not.

Even when you and I have had our differences, I've always appreciated everything you have done for myself and others.

Agreed. Scott has always been quite generous for as long as I have known of him. I remember goodgirl told me he was one that gave her lots of valuable info was she first got into adult.

kronic 11-16-2009 02:15 PM

Well, someone comes off poorly in this thread, but it isn't the guy who supposedly owes an apology. In fact, if anything, someone had their true colors revealed in this thread.

Pipecrew 11-16-2009 02:18 PM

Been following this drama off and on. I really figured in my mind the amount was in the xxx,xxx range. 15k is still a lot to lose, but with the amount of bitching i figured it was a lot more.

pocketkangaroo 11-16-2009 02:23 PM

No one owes you an apology. Investments are always risks. The CEO of CitiGroup isn't going to call you and apologize if their share price falls, just as he's not going to expect a thank you card if it goes up. The only thing you are owed is a share of the profits if your investment turns out to do well.

Chalk it up as a loss and learn to make better decisions on where you invest money in the future. Blaming your poor investment decision on someone else is pathetic.

lazycash 11-16-2009 02:25 PM

Has jman ever explained why he should be entitled to his portion of the investment when he failed to make a payment for 5 months?

Supz 11-16-2009 02:26 PM

an investment is exactly that. there are risks and rewards. sometimes they dont always work out for the best. no apology needed. It isn't a loan.

BradM 11-16-2009 02:27 PM

Looking for waterfront property in Manitoba. LMK if anyone knows of any

Jman 11-16-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 16556347)
Has jman ever explained why he should be entitled to his portion of the investment when he failed to make a payment for 5 months?

I have bank receipts that proves this is incorect like many other statements Scott as cried out on here. I was also advise not to pursue this.

I was wrong to do this post and under some wine influense and got ticked off by a post Scott at yet made again trying to trash me.

There are 2 sides to a coin but unfortunatly for GFY my side was given to legal council.

People can think what they want the important is I know what I did and what happened to me.

shermo 11-16-2009 02:37 PM

If it was an investment of a substantial size, and you only lost $15k, I'd feel like I dodged a bullet. I've lost a few times that over the last couple years, but you win some/lose some. It's a life lesson that prepares you for the future.

However, I guess it's just easier to complain about it when a "friend" was partnered with you, as you can blame them for the downfall instead of yourself (or the economy as a whole). Investments are gambles that are never guranteed. You don't yell at a casino dealer for losing a hand of blackjack, do you? Business investments are no different

I'm sure Scott has covered well over $15k over the last few years with you if you take into account rent, travel, etc. If you're smart, you'll patch it up, truck through the downfall together, and bounce back up when the time is right.

american pervert 11-16-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 16554415)
Sleazy,

It's funny that no one has said anything about all the parties you threw, and all the times you rented boats, the outings in Phoenix, and all the other times you had dinner parties with THOUSANDS of dollars you spent on other people.

It seems we only see the one unfortunate thing that happens and never all the good things.

It sucks the the money was lost, but as baddog said, when you invest, it is definitely roll of the dice.

:2 cents:


I am going to invest in bday parties for you. Kourosh is a winning bet!!

Kimmykim 11-16-2009 02:47 PM

Keep this up and you'd both be better off sitting in the corner rubbing your vaginas. I haven't looked at this board in weeks, maybe a month, it was really disappointing to see this mess.

Supz 11-16-2009 02:49 PM


datatank 11-16-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16554332)
i dumped a lot more than that in totally stupid car repairs while i could have simply leased a new car. now who's the idiot?


Dolt....
What are you talking about .

lazycash 11-16-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 16556370)
I have bank receipts that proves this is incorect like many other statements Scott as cried out on here. I was also advise not to pursue this.

I was wrong to do this post and under some wine influense and got ticked off by a post Scott at yet made again trying to trash me.

There are 2 sides to a coin but unfortunatly for GFY my side was given to legal council.

People can think what they want the important is I know what I did and what happened to me.

Well this is the first time I've seen you refute that you didn't violate the contract by missing 5 payments, something Scott has contended from the beginning. He's suggesting you owed him for other things and sent in less than full payments not specifying where the money should be applied. When Scott offered to just let you take over the payments and keep the land all to yourself (including his downpayment), why didn't you take him up on that?

Penthouse Tony 11-16-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16556132)
Wow. I'm not surprised that somebody would say such a thing as I know plenty of people who treat their "friendships" like that, especially in this industry. However, I'm very surprised to learn that after all these years, Jman was one of those kind of friends to you.

As long as I have known you, you have always been a generous person. I've seen you pay for flights, hotel rooms, parties, multiple activities, bar tabs, meals, etc...For MANY people.

Different people are generous for different reasons. There are people who do it simply because they have to buy friends and then there are people, like you, who genuinely want to help others to experience things they otherwise might not.

Even when you and I have had our differences, I've always appreciated everything you have done for myself and others.

I've seen Scott be very generous as well. I've even seen him give money to a stranger we met and were talking to while getting a bite to eat. It was Christmas time and he could use some extra cash and Scott has a HUGE heart. If there is karma Scott's due big time for some good stuff.

Agent 488 11-16-2009 04:20 PM

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Cyber Fucker 11-16-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 16554101)
money and friends don't mix well

:2 cents:

will76 11-16-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 16556370)
I have bank receipts that proves this is incorect like many other statements Scott as cried out on here. I was also advise not to pursue this.

I was wrong to do this post and under some wine influense and got ticked off by a post Scott at yet made again trying to trash me.

There are 2 sides to a coin but unfortunatly for GFY my side was given to legal council.

People can think what they want the important is I know what I did and what happened to me.

oh so you doing the " I am owed an apology, he is lieing, I am not going to explain my side of the story" defense. nice.

SleazyDream 11-16-2009 04:36 PM

careful will76, people will say we're in love

cyco_cc 11-16-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16554529)
not to mention all the first class flights I bought Jman (more than 10), most of his leather furniture for his apartment when he moved in, reduced rent and often no rent when he lived with me and use of my car, storage for MANY years of his car, I can go on.....


none of that was part of the deal. Had it gone the other way - Jman would have won HUGE. I'm just someone to mooch off for him.

and AFTER all that I put in over $36K on the deal and I STILL offered him all my shares in it to take it over and he refused demanding all his money back.


Jman is a great friend so long as you can pay him to be there. :2 cents::thumbsup

Damn, you sound like a ridiculously generous guy. If all the above is true, what can you do? Some people are never grateful and can never be satisfied....

beemk 11-16-2009 04:38 PM

thats funny how jman always disappears and acts like he doesnt want to air his dirty laundry when things dont go exactly how he planned.

will76 11-16-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16556812)
careful will76, people will say we're in love

people should know better... I'm not a good bro because I call it how I see it no matter who is involved. that is why no one likes me lol


btw I don't love broke men lol ;) j/k

lazycash 11-16-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16556819)
thats funny how jman always disappears and acts like he doesnt want to air his dirty laundry when things dont go exactly how he planned.

I'm getting the same impression, he loves to take jabs and as soon as the tough questions start he disappears after some vague reply or something about how he's been advised not to divulge his side.

will76 11-16-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16556819)
thats funny how jman always disappears and acts like he doesnt want to air his dirty laundry when things dont go exactly how he planned.

he is waiting for pornodan to come in so he can tag team scott.

Ace_luffy 11-16-2009 04:54 PM

thats is apart of game , either you lost it , or gain it, dont lost hope go again , roll again

J B 11-16-2009 04:56 PM

It's always sad to see things like this... been there... done that... several times :(

I ran several businesses with family/friends or helped them with their business in difficult times... only to get fucked over in the end. I don't know the whole story here, so it's difficult to comment... all I can say is that I never give up and just can't lose faith in people... don't want to. I currently run two successful offline businesses with friends and I'm glad that I put the past behind me. Running a business with family/friends can be the best or worst thing.

However, sometimes I kind of envy a friend of mine. He's really loaded and gets approached by 'friends' all the time. He always does the same thing... he invites them for a nice dinner and then tells them that he won't give them any money or invest into their business because he likes the friendship they have. It really works well for him...

CaptainHowdy 11-16-2009 05:20 PM

That's a nice piece of land... congrats.

SleazyDream 11-16-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16556849)
he is waiting for pornodan to come in so he can tag team scott.

evildan.... don't think pornodan has ever commented on this.....

will76 11-16-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16557819)
evildan.... don't think pornodan has ever commented on this.....

one of the dan's. yeah evil dan that was it. They "ambushed" you. You walked right into it and they were giddy like little school girls that they baited you and then trashed you. You got played. But you apologized to Jayman so its all good.

Dude if you need friends that bad I will be your friend for a lot less then $15,000 :winkwink:

webgurl 11-16-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 16554415)

It sucks the the money was lost, but as baddog said, when you invest, it is definitely roll of the dice.

:2 cents:

Tell me about it , the one time i actually made money in the end of 07 beginning of 08
till now i lost over 100K in the stock market . :Oh crap I really thought
I was gonna do well with this investment instead it back fired got into the stock market
at the worst turn of the century timing possible . How ironic life is <sigh>
Roll the dice .... tell me about it :(:(:(

montel 11-17-2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 16556334)
No one owes you an apology. Investments are always risks. The CEO of CitiGroup isn't going to call you and apologize if their share price falls, just as he's not going to expect a thank you card if it goes up.

He is much smarter than that. He gets a 20 mil bonus no matter what happens, so he doesn't give a fuck. Besides, he knows he can get a government bail out on your tab.

Sleazy, have you considered a government bail out?

SleazyDream 11-17-2009 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montel (Post 16558173)
He is much smarter than that. He gets a 20 mil bonus no matter what happens, so he doesn't give a fuck. Besides, he knows he can get a government bail out on your tab.

Sleazy, have you considered a government bail out?

lol

ACTUALLY - going to court next week regarding a dirty cop - IF i get a judgment on him - I THINK I can sue him civil for probably the entire amount of my bankruptcy and losses....i'm not a lawyer but this has been suggested to me a few times by a few knowledgeable people.

V_RocKs 11-17-2009 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 16554415)
Sleazy,

It's funny that no one has said anything about all the parties you threw, and all the times you rented boats, the outings in Phoenix, and all the other times you had dinner parties with THOUSANDS of dollars you spent on other people.

It seems we only see the one unfortunate thing that happens and never all the good things.

It sucks the the money was lost, but as baddog said, when you invest, it is definitely roll of the dice.

:2 cents:

That might be because of HOW he did it...

He did it by being pompous about it. I hope his current financial state humbles him a little and he can treat people that are destined to be millionaires a little more fairly then he has in the past.

BTW, Sleezy, you really look about 2000% better then you did three or four years ago. Seems shedding some of the stress also allowed you to shed the weight that came with it.

montel 11-17-2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16558202)
lol

ACTUALLY - going to court next week regarding a dirty cop - IF i get a judgment on him - I THINK I can sue him civil for probably the entire amount of my bankruptcy and losses....i'm not a lawyer but this has been suggested to me a few times by a few knowledgeable people.

Well good luck with that. As said above, the upside is you aren't fat any more.


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