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GatorB 11-18-2009 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16565291)
As far as I'm concerned, it sounds like a work for hire, and the employer/person who paid for it should own the copyright.
Except the person hired to do the work is not an employee of the person hiring. If that's the logic he wants to use then did he pay FICA taxes to the government on behalf of his "hire" like other employers? Of course not. Ok then so he is in violation of tax code if he's an employee. It's pretty simple. A person is either your employee or they aren't. And if they arne't then you have no rights to anything they create unless stated otherwise in a contract.

brassmonkey 11-18-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16565489)
Except the person hired to do the work is not an employee of the person hiring. If that's the logic he wants to use then did he pay FICA taxes to the government on behalf of his "hire" like other employers? Of course not. Ok then so he is in violation of tax code if he's an employee. It's pretty simple. A person is either your employee or they aren't. And if they arne't then you have no rights to anything they create unless stated otherwise in a contract.
:1orglaugh a lawyer

sortie 11-18-2009 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16565472)
Cleerly you have never worked for a serious company that paid well....sad

And you would think the programmer would bring up these issues beforehand....if its not brought up and he is doing (a cheap job to reuse the idea later), well that is just outright dishonest and probably why they are scrambling for work.

Edit: Just to be clear here, the programmer can re use anything he creates....even if he works for microsoft in their office....UNLESS a contract says otherwise.

Its the way its done from too many smalltime programmers in this business relying on the fact that most webmasters are unaware of this fact!
:1orglaugh

Clearly you've never worked for a company at all.

MetaMan 11-18-2009 06:41 PM
no you cant sell his work you stupid fuck.

it is like making a design for someone then they sell it to 20 people.

are you that dense?

sarettah 11-18-2009 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16564961)
i have 2 ideas in the patent office hopefully in a store near u in 2010 :pimp
Copyright and patent are two different things. An idea can be patented. It cannot be copyrighted. At least in the U.S.

I write the code, it is my code. Period, end of story.

When I do something for resale my price is much higher than when I just do a script for someone.

just my :2 cents:

Bman 11-18-2009 07:14 PM
Fortunes have been lost and made because of this.

Argos88 11-18-2009 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16564193)
Contracts

and did you two discuss this before the project was started?
why do you have that guy from kink that gets it in the ass, in your avatar?

brassmonkey 11-18-2009 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16565636)
Copyright and patent are two different things. An idea can be patented. It cannot be copyrighted. At least in the U.S.

I write the code, it is my code. Period, end of story.

When I do something for resale my price is much higher than when I just do a script for someone.

just my :2 cents:
well if im buying it ill do what i want with it :winkwink:

sarettah 11-18-2009 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16565706)
well if im buying it ill do what i want with it :winkwink:
And that works just fine, until you get caught :winkwink:

brassmonkey 11-18-2009 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16565723)
And that works just fine, until you get caught :winkwink:
he gave me permission(like i needed it) if he want rights 2 it he would have 2 file a patent like twitter and all the other owners have done but its just a little script

sarettah 11-18-2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16565756)
he gave me permission(like i needed it) if he want rights 2 it he would have 2 file a patent like twitter and all the other owners have done but its just a little script
You did need his permission whether you agree with it or not. It is as simple as that.

Earlier in the thread you said:

Quote:
he added a disclaimer he snuck in there i didnt see it till after i paid
So, it appears you even agreed to his terms.

Intellectual rights are pretty cut and dry on this situation, whether you like it or not.

Unless otherwise specifically stated the creator (not the conceiver) owns the rights.

JamesK 11-18-2009 08:11 PM
No contract means:

- You can do whatever the fuck you want
- He can do whatever the fuck he wants

BluntsandBitches 11-18-2009 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 16564189)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 11-18-2009 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16565768)
You did need his permission whether you agree with it or not. It is as simple as that.

Earlier in the thread you said:



So, it appears you even agreed to his terms.

Intellectual rights are pretty cut and dry on this situation, whether you like it or not.

Unless otherwise specifically stated the creator (not the conceiver) owns the rights.
i didnt agree 2 shit :disgust ok dude :1orglaugh


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