Just to clarify you can copyright an idea as long as you can explain the workings of the idea.

So no you couldn't just think of a car flying and then copyright the flying car idea. But if you can explain how the car would fly and the technology required then yes you can copyright the flying car idea.

Point being you don't need any physical representation of what you want to patent aslong as all the theoretical workings are detailed.

As far as I'm concerned, it sounds like a work for hire, and the employer/person who paid for it should own the copyright.

Not sure how that would work out with your contract situation.

You can't copyright an idea.

You have your forms of intellectual property mixed up :2 cents:

Hmm, fair enough I am thinking of Patents for inventions. So I stand corrected.

ok thanx for all the input and :321GFY who did the name calling he gave me permission 2 sale the script (like i needed it) :1orglaugh i think homer is a good programmer but this issue he went left and i went right on the ownership. Damn :(

50 ownership issues

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Cleerly you have never worked for a serious company that paid well....sad

And you would think the programmer would bring up these issues beforehand....if its not brought up and he is doing (a cheap job to reuse the idea later), well that is just outright dishonest and probably why they are scrambling for work.

Edit: Just to be clear here, the programmer can re use anything he creates....even if he works for microsoft in their office....UNLESS a contract says otherwise.

Its the way its done from too many smalltime programmers in this business relying on the fact that most webmasters are unaware of this fact!

sword fight!!!!!!!!!!!

Except the person hired to do the work is not an employee of the person hiring. If that's the logic he wants to use then did he pay FICA taxes to the government on behalf of his "hire" like other employers? Of course not. Ok then so he is in violation of tax code if he's an employee. It's pretty simple. A person is either your employee or they aren't. And if they arne't then you have no rights to anything they create unless stated otherwise in a contract.

:1orglaugh a lawyer

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Clearly you've never worked for a company at all.

no you cant sell his work you stupid fuck.

it is like making a design for someone then they sell it to 20 people.

are you that dense?

Copyright and patent are two different things. An idea can be patented. It cannot be copyrighted. At least in the U.S.

I write the code, it is my code. Period, end of story.

When I do something for resale my price is much higher than when I just do a script for someone.

just my :2 cents:

Fortunes have been lost and made because of this.

why do you have that guy from kink that gets it in the ass, in your avatar?

well if im buying it ill do what i want with it :winkwink:

And that works just fine, until you get caught :winkwink:

he gave me permission(like i needed it) if he want rights 2 it he would have 2 file a patent like twitter and all the other owners have done but its just a little script

You did need his permission whether you agree with it or not. It is as simple as that.

Earlier in the thread you said:

So, it appears you even agreed to his terms.

Intellectual rights are pretty cut and dry on this situation, whether you like it or not.

Unless otherwise specifically stated the creator (not the conceiver) owns the rights.

No contract means:

- You can do whatever the fuck you want
- He can do whatever the fuck he wants

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i didnt agree 2 shit :disgust ok dude :1orglaugh